Obito's sick saving of the world.

[whiteboy2345]

A lot of people where involved and hurt by it, I don't see them doing that sh t. Trying to justify it isn't gonna change the fact that it was stupid

Compare Obito's lineage and connection to Madara's plan to everyone else, do you honestly think they'd ever make half the progress he made? Come back when you have your answer.

Not only was he an Uchiha, putting his cynicism, sensitivity, and evil on a new level, but he had a power no one else but Sasuke and Itachi had who were both uninterested in saving the world until the VOTE2 fight concerning Sauske. Add Kamui and his genjutsu mind control feats and now you have someone with an endless amount of options on how to manipulate the world.

 

[whiteboy2345]

There's disprove about IT being a weapon and nothing more. IT wasn't useful in any way to either Obito or Madara as they were manipulated into believing a lie.
IT was a bad choice simply because Madara and Obito were trying to force it on people without any regard to free will.

Forced peace was the only real peace, we know this because Kawaki destroy's Konoha despite the "peace" Naruto made.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Compare Obito's lineage and connection to Madara's plan to everyone else, do you honestly think they'd ever make half the progress he made? Come back when you have your answer.

Not only was he an Uchiha, putting his cynicism, sensitivity, and evil on a new level, but he had a power no one else but Sasuke and Itachi had who were both uninterested in saving the world until the VOTE2 fight concerning Sauske. Add Kamui and his genjutsu mind control feats and now you have someone with an endless amount of options on how to manipulate the world.

What? Did you mean to reply to that particular post or did you make a mistake? How does any of that have anything to do with his reasoning?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Forced peace was the only real peace, we know this because Kawaki destroy's Konoha despite the "peace" Naruto made.

Forced peace as you say it in this case is not peace but enslavement. Only a retard would support being subjugated.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Forced peace as you say it in this case is not peace but enslavement. Only a retard would support being subjugated.

It is peace. No one ever said peace had to be rainbows and sunshine. A world in which everyone has freedom cannot yield peace, which is why peace is impossible. Hence why Kawaki destroys the village, even if one generation figures the secret recipe out, the next will be ignorant to their struggles and lessons and **** everything up.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It is peace. No one ever said peace had to be rainbows and sunshine. A world in which everyone has freedom cannot yield peace, which is why peace is impossible. Hence why Kawaki destroys the village, even if one generation figures the secret recipe out, the next will be ignorant to their struggles and lessons and **** everything up.

I never thought an idea from a manga could **** up people's mind like that.

Being forced to live under someone's thumb isn't peace period.

 

[whiteboy2345]

I never thought an idea from a manga could **** up people's mind like that.

Being forced to live under someone's thumb isn't peace period.

It's the truth. People have tried Naruto's method plenty of times. You cant deny that freedom stops peace from existing. If God could physically restrain every rapist and murderer, wouldn't that create peace? But then that would be the elimination of freedom wouldn't it? As long as people are free meaning not just good people, but everyone, peace cannot be achieved.

Living under the thumb of someone who stops all evil would be peaceful, just not freedom.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It's the truth. People have tried Naruto's method plenty of times. You cant deny that freedom stops peace from existing. If God could physically restrain every rapist and murderer, wouldn't that create peace? But then that would be the elimination of freedom wouldn't it? As long as people are free meaning not just good people, but everyone, peace cannot be achieved.

Living under the thumb of someone who stops all evil would be peaceful, just not freedom.

As if being enslaved is not evil lol.

 

[whiteboy2345]

As if being enslaved is not evil lol.

It's not enslavement, it would just be heavy policing. People would be free to help, not hurt each other.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It's not enslavement, it would just be heavy policing. People would be free to help, not hurt each other.

Lol, no matter how you try to put it people robbed entirely of their free will is not policing. Its nothing but enslavement.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Lol, no matter how you try to put it people robbed entirely of their free will is not policing. Its nothing but enslavement.

Then don't talk about peace. If you want peace, you have to remove free-will.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Then don't talk about peace. If you want peace, you have to remove free-will.

I hope you're not serious with this non sense.

Btw, can you prove that people won't rise up against the oppressor eventually?

 

[whiteboy2345]

I hope you're not serious with this non sense.

Btw, can you prove that people won't rise up against the oppressor eventually?

You can't disprove my theory because it's correct, I'm dead serious.

Who cares if they rise up? If their every decision is being controlled they can't rise, but let's say they do, let's say the sheep destroy their shepherd. What happens when some sheep happen to a wolf in sheep's clothing, and the wolves destroy the sheep? The reality is...the people aren't all good, there's light and dark. Wherever there is light there is also shadows, remember?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

You can't disprove my theory because it's correct, I'm dead serious.

Who cares if they rise up? If their every decision is being controlled they can't rise, but let's say they do, let's say the sheep destroy their shepherd. What happens when some sheep happen to a wolf in sheep's clothing, and the wolves destroy the sheep? The reality is...the people aren't all good, there's light and dark. Wherever there is light there is also shadows, remember?

You've not proven anything to disprove so yeah I can't.

@Bold There peace destroyed and so is your opinion.....:tea:

 

[whiteboy2345]

You've not proven anything to disprove so yeah I can't.

@Bold There peace destroyed and so is your opinion.....:tea:

Yep, the peace was destroyed once my philosophy was removed from the world.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Yep, the peace was destroyed once my philosophy was removed from the world.

Your philosophy is what led to it being destroyed lol.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Your philosophy is what led to it being destroyed lol.

Nah, if no one can destroy it due to their free-will being taken, how could it be destroyed?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Nah, if no one can destroy it due to their free-will being taken, how could it be destroyed?

They're realize they're are not allowed to exercise their will freely and revolt. So called peace broken.

Lot of real life examples are there for your reference.

 

[whiteboy2345]

They're realize they're are not allowed to exercise their will freely and revolt. So called peace broken.

Lot of real life examples are there for your reference.

There has never been a real life example of people being unable to exercise free-will. Being killed by a government for doing something isn't the same as a deity stopping your every negative move.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

There has never been a real life example of people being unable to exercise free-will. Being killed by a government for doing something isn't the same as a deity stopping your every negative move.

Lol. What would you say about parts of the world ruled by dictators or terrorist groups like ISIS. You think people can do whatever they want without paying heavily for it? They're robbed of their free will.
And which Deity you're talking about? Madara lol, he got soloed by BZ. So much for his plan. Misled and used into doing other's bidding. He couldn't even control his own fate lol.