Obito's Motivation (and why there's really nothing wrong with it)

[saw2097]

Re: OBITO'S MOTIVATION (and why there's really nothing wrong with it)

Doesn't matter.

Sasuke wasn't offered a perfect and simple way to be with his clan again. Obito was. Sasuke would've done the same as Obito in his situation to be with his clan again.

Oh really, then do tell considering that Sasuke is aware of Obito's plan why is he fighting against it.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Re: OBITO'S MOTIVATION (and why there's really nothing wrong with it)

Only haters and idiots make such accusations, since it's obvious his motivations are not solely for Rin.

That's the thing, even if it was just solely about Rin (which it obviously is not) then there's still nothing wrong with it.

- Boy watches loved one die
- Boy grows sick of world and wishes he could save loved one from dying
- Boy is shown a perfect way to save loved one from dying
- Boy attempts to save loved one from dying and fix world

There is nothing wrong with this.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Re: OBITO'S MOTIVATION (and why there's really nothing wrong with it)

Oh really, then do tell considering that Sasuke is aware of Obito's plan why is he fighting against it.

BECAUSE SASUKE HAS NOT BEEN OFFERED A PERFECT SOLUTION TO HIS PROBLEM.

It's seriously simple. Sasuke took the revenge route, Obito was trying to legitimately solve his problem. Does Sasuke even know what the Moon Eye Plan entails? Either way, he doesn't understand it like Obito does. Moon Eye Plan is Obito's perfect solution to his perfect problem. Sasuke was not polluted by Madara at a young age and driven by the moon eye plan, he's recently just become aware of it (if he even has) so he obviously is not driven by it.

 

[iNotorious]

Re: OBITO'S MOTIVATION (and why there's really nothing wrong with it)

So you wouldn't know something was off if a dead loved one showed up at your door, this isn't inception, if they are under the Infinite Tsukuyomi they will know it.

Oh, none of them went through what Obito did, so despite Jiraya fighting through TWO World Wars and being betrayed by his best friend as well as two of his students,

and then there is Kushina who's entire village was destroyed,

and then there is Minato who had to watch his wife die and condemn his son to a life of suffering and they don't understand.

Oh and of course Kakashi who had to kill a close friend and his father committed suicide, but he doesn't understand Obito.

You will excuse me if I doubt that.

Edit: Let Me add more who are also fighting against it.

Sasuke: Lost his entire Family, killed his own brother.

Naruto: Lived a life of loneliness, lost his teacher and recently his friend Neji.

Tsunade: Lost her younger brother and her boyfriend in war.

Hashirama: Lost his younger brother and had to apparently kill his best friend.

But none of them understand the pain of losing a childhood crush which is apparently greater then losing your entire family or wife or being betrayed by your friends or students.

Pretty much this,

I hope he gets killed asap.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

ya coz sasuke was polluted by even eviler orochimaru and minipulated by his own brother .....

And just losing rin ?? didnt nagato and konan lose yakiho nfront of their eyes .... were they following the eye of the moon plan??

Konan and nagato were working for REAL PEACE

 

[Twisted007]

Obito deserves respect for his power and evil deeds, he messed up alot of people's lives and that is what a villain should do. But his motives are childish and creepy, that can't be denied. He is doing this because of Rin, she is the only one on his mind, it's as if she casted a jutso on him.

Rin no jutso is quite powerfull

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Obito deserves respect for his power and evil deeds, he messed up alot of people's lives and that is what a villain should do. But his motives are childish and creepy, that can't be denied. He is doing this because of Rin, she is the only one on his mind, it's as if she casted a jutso on him.

Rin no jutso is quite powerfull

- Boy watches loved one die
- Boy grows sick of world and wishes he could save loved one from dying
- Boy is shown a perfect way to save loved one from dying
- Boy attempts to save loved one from dying and fix world

Good post but that just sounds like human nature to me.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

ya coz sasuke was polluted by even eviler orochimaru and minipulated by his own brother .....

And just losing rin ?? didnt nagato and konan lose yakiho nfront of their eyes .... were they following the eye of the moon plan??

Konan and nagato were working for REAL PEACE

You mean those guys who killed lots of people, orchestrated a jinchuuriki hunt and murdered Jiraiya ultimately to create a weapon to destroy entire villages? That's real peace? That's honestly better than creating a heaven dreamworld?

 

[phantomlord22]

obito is one of many lost boys in NV
he is someone like nagato but more crazy!!!
every one has a reason for what they're doing !

 

[HiddenSound]

Yeah except he's like a 30 year old f*cking man who's a f*cking pedophile constantly thinking about 7 year old f*cking girl.

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Seriously though, nice thread, nice points. I'd much rather have Obito than Madara.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

I was thinking why doesnt obito use edo tensei on rin .....

But obito is a creep ... he wants a girl who doesnt even love him .... he just wants a illusion of her who likes him instead of kakashi .... he wants to be a winner coz he is a loser.... he cant work his way to be a winner (like naruto )... so he just wants to illusion himself that he is a winner

 

[AGoodBoy]

I wouldn't do what he did because i'm not a ***** nigga.
He needs to learn to let go of shit. People die.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

You mean those guys who killed lots of people, orchestrated a jinchuuriki hunt and murdered Jiraiya ultimately to create a weapon to destroy entire villages? That's real peace? That's honestly better than creating a heaven dreamworld?

its peace by power ... dont like it ....
If you have power you can control peace ....

Ahhh ya thats peace and its better than a dreamland coz it doesnt kill you off stravation .... how will ninjas survive if every thing only happens in their mins and their bodies dont get nutrition??

 

[3 Days Grace]

if he really hates the world he should just kill himself rather than killing everybody else

 

[Twisted007]

Good post but that just sounds like human nature to me.

He is not trying to fix the ninja world, he is trying to get action with a genjutsu Rin.

Anyways he needs contact this guy for his 'human feelings'

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[ShiroShonen]

So true, those seem like legit reasons

 

[mikeeozua]

I was thinking why doesnt obito use edo tensei on rin .....

But obito is a creep ... he wants a girl who doesnt even love him .... he just wants a illusion of her who likes him instead of kakashi .... he wants to be a winner coz he is a loser.... he cant work his way to be a winner (like naruto )... so he just wants to illusion himself that he is a winner

He didnt revive Rin back into the world because he considers this Shinobi world hell. Naruto, Sasuke or Kakashi and others didn't meet Madara and weren't offered a free way to a solution, that's why they didn't sway towards the eye of the moon plan.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

if he really hates the world he should just kill himself rather than killing everybody else

ya he will literally kill all ninjas if he continues the plan .... whom will he use the genjutsu on ?? himself??

kill everyone and illusion yourself that they are alive

 

[saw2097]

I was thinking why doesnt obito use edo tensei on rin .....

But obito is a creep ... he wants a girl who doesnt even love him .... he just wants a illusion of her who likes him instead of kakashi .... he wants to be a winner coz he is a loser.... he cant work his way to be a winner (like naruto )... so he just wants to illusion himself that he is a winner

Exactly this, the reason Obito is doing this is because he was a loser and he wants a world where he is a winner. He needs to grow up.

 

[mikeeozua]

I posted this on another thread Of what I believe his motives are:

'It's natural to think of the person you love the most before you die. People are simplifying his motives too much.

Yes Rin's death was the trigger for Obito's downfall. But it's the same thing with Nagato, would he have become Pain had Yahiko not died? Or would Madara have conjured up Tsuki no me if Izuna and his brothers hadn't died? Or what about Oro when his parents died? You can't use that as an excuse to belittle Obito's motives.

Now actually onto his motives. It's not just the fact that Rin died, but rather the circumstances of how she died. I'm sure if it was a regular mist ninja killing her, then Obito would not have flipped out as much as he did. Obito put himself through hell during his training in Madara's cave which lasted for at least a year. He dreams about how he and Kakashi can work together as a team now to protect Rin and who does he see with his hand through Rin's heart? Kakashi. Obito witnessed his own friend killing his other best friend which is incredibly traumatising for someone of only the age of 14. People telling Obito to move on cannot possibly imagine an event like this especially when it's justified back in Konoha

No matter how you look at it, Obito's team meant the world to him. This is clear when Obito throws Kakashi out of the way of those boulders and his determination to save Rin. This is understandable as the Uchiha Clan cast him out for being a mere black sheep. Rin was the only one who actually acknowledged Obito and spurred him on to become to the Hokage.

Obito's motives are to end the ninja system. The fact that the Mist Village went as far as kidnapping Rin and making her the Jinchuuriki shows how far a Ninja village can go just for simple revenge. The shinobi world is corrupt and Obito wants to end that completely in his new utopia.'