[Theory] Obito's future

[neowenbin]

Hey Narutobase! It's my first thread here, been lurking around for quite some time and I can't help but to post this theory that has been in my mind since I read the newest issue of manga.

Alright, from what I see, I can tell that Obito is kinda being controlled(?) by Madara-sama to use rinne tensei to make him a mortal, and to become the Juubi's host. So, unless Kishi is planning another asspull, chances are Obito is going to be dead within the next few chapters.

So let's cut the chase and go onto the main topic now, after Obito uses the Rinne Tensei technique, he'll be dead right? The only other time we saw someone use Rinne Tensei was Nagato, so after using Rinne Tensei, he died after exhausting his chakra reserves. Konan then picked up his body and kept it somewhere safe. So, there isn't any Konan there for Obito, and it's a huge mess in the battlefield flooding with fodders and miniature juubi everywhere.

So what I'm trying to say now is, once Obito is dead, there will be a dead body, just lying there, with a Rinnegan in the left eye socket, Mangekyo Sharingan with a unique tech in the right socket, with Uchiha blood, and Hashirama's cells too.

And if you guys forgot, you can go back and look at the chapter from last week, and tell me who's on his way to the battlefield.

Yes. You're right, Orochimaru-sama. What he wanted from Sasuke is already there in Obito, just that the Rinnegan wasn't awaken by himself naturally, but I think Orochimaru would probably salivate at the sight of that Uchiha body, and since no one's there to protect Obito's corpse, and arrogant Madara-sama would probably leave the body at where it is after using it for Rinne Tensei, that snake of a bastard Orochimaru would just slither his way through all those rubble and slips himself into Obito's corpse. While giving the alliance the excuse that with Obito's body, chances of defeating Madara will be higher, and the alliance would and could not do anything other than trusting Orochimaru, since he's "supposed" to be on their side.


I don't really care whether you disagree with this theory or not, but I'm just thankful enough that you took time and read my thread.
However I would really appreciate if you guys could leave some comments be it positive or negative, I'm not perfect and I wanna learn more!

Again, thanks for reading!

 

[Kαmi]

Good theory man, Orochimaru will probably be on the battlefield by next chapter. It wouldn't surprise me if he would try to take over Obito's body but he's about to die so I don't think Orochimaru will have much use for it. I think he intended to awaken the Rinnegan in both eyes in order to complete his ambition and that's why he needed Sasuke's body specifically.

Again though, great theory, I hope to see more =D

 

[DrukenT]

orochimaru do not know much , but your body change jutsu is not blocked for a time?

 

[neowenbin]

I do understand that there's a 3 years wait for the next use of his technique of changing bodies, but however, his current body is already powered by Hashirama's cells, if you forgot, the current body he's having now is a white zetsu, he acquired the body after getting possessed by the death reaper and slicing open the tummy of his old body to release the souls trapped in the death reaper's tummy, thus, slithering his way down a zetsu's throat.

Since Hashirama's cell could allow Kotoamatsukami cool down to less than a day, which was originally a decade cool down.
If we calculate it the same way, he only need to wait for the most 8 hours till his next body switch.

 

[DrukenT]

I do understand that there's a 3 years wait for the next use of his technique of changing bodies, but however, his current body is already powered by Hashirama's cells, if you forgot, the current body he's having now is a white zetsu, he acquired the body after getting possessed by the death reaper and slicing open the tummy of his old body to release the souls trapped in the death reaper's tummy, thus, slithering his way down a zetsu's throat.

Since Hashirama's cell could allow Kotoamatsukami cool down to less than a day, which was originally a decade cool down.
If we calculate it the same way, he only need to wait for the most 8 hours till his next body switch.

true I forgot that detail

 

[neowenbin]

Good theory man, Orochimaru will probably be on the battlefield by next chapter. It wouldn't surprise me if he would try to take over Obito's body but he's about to die so I don't think Orochimaru will have much use for it. I think he intended to awaken the Rinnegan in both eyes in order to complete his ambition and that's why he needed Sasuke's body specifically.

Again though, great theory, I hope to see more =D

Thanks for the comment!
But Obito's probably dying due to his low chakra reserve after the Rinne Tensei no Jutsu,
if Orochimaru and his partners are able to reattach Tsunade's separated upper and lower body.
I wouldn't be surprised if he could just bring along his current chakra into Obito, and regenerating the wounds with his abilities, getting extra chakra from Karin, get Juugo to fill up the holes Obito have on his upper torso after getting Raikiri'd.
I'm just getting a little excited because it all kinda sums up for me.

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

Pretty good theory and a perfect way for Oro to become one of the strongest again!

 

[neowenbin]

Pretty good theory and a perfect way for Oro to become one of the strongest again!

Thanks for the comment bro, and yeah, I wanna see Oro as the main villain again, I mean, who doesn't?

 

[Sentinel]

it's a nice theory, and with the extra comments here about reducing the 3 year wait to 8 hours because of the hashirama power of the zetsu body he is in now and the company he has with karin and jugo there to repair the body, it all makes things very plausable.

but 2 things bother me about it.
nagato died after using the rinne tensei, and as far as we know orochimaru needs a living host to inhabit, so if we assume that obito would not die instantly after using the rinne tensei oro would have to get there fairly quick to get that body alive.
also, I don't think orochimaru knows where obito is at the moment, and he also doesn't know the current state of affairs concerning obito, since he is now away from tsunade and katsuy and on the way to the battlefield. I don't think he is aware of what is happening with obito right now, unless obito teleported within karin's sencing range.

so getting there fast if you don't know you have to get there or where there is is a bit difficult. honestly, I don't see this happening.
I think it's more likley that kakashi is going to teleport in there (if he knows how to direct his outcome place) and put obito's dead body on safekeeping in the kamui dimension.

 

[WrestlePride]

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[neowenbin]

it's a nice theory, and with the extra comments here about reducing the 3 year wait to 8 hours because of the hashirama power of the zetsu body he is in now and the company he has with karin and jugo there to repair the body, it all makes things very plausable.

but 2 things bother me about it.
nagato died after using the rinne tensei, and as far as we know orochimaru needs a living host to inhabit, so if we assume that obito would not die instantly after using the rinne tensei oro would have to get there fairly quick to get that body alive.
also, I don't think orochimaru knows where obito is at the moment, and he also doesn't know the current state of affairs concerning obito, since he is now away from tsunade and katsuy and on the way to the battlefield. I don't think he is aware of what is happening with obito right now, unless obito teleported within karin's sencing range.

so getting there fast if you don't know you have to get there or where there is is a bit difficult. honestly, I don't see this happening.
I think it's more likley that kakashi is going to teleport in there (if he knows how to direct his outcome place) and put obito's dead body on safekeeping in the kamui dimension.

Speaking of saving, wouldn't Minato be a better candidate?
He sees his disciple getting killed, and he probably think back about how he let Obito 'die' back then,
not wanting to repeat his past mistake, he might even stop Obito from being taken over by Madara (plot no jutsu).

 

[Sentinel]

Speaking of saving, wouldn't Minato be a better candidate?
He sees his disciple getting killed, and he probably think back about how he let Obito 'die' back then,
not wanting to repeat his past mistake, he might even stop Obito from being taken over by Madara (plot no jutsu).

minato is currently occupied with maintaining the barrier for the juuby, so he can't just get away right now. also, he might have senced something but how would he get there. i'm sure obito got rid of the marking placed on him 16 years befor so minato can't just teleport away to him. I don't think minato is going to be the one saving him.
kakashi seems more likly, as his former friend and classmate. it's a bit like sasuke and naruto.

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

I'm looking forward to Kakashi gaining Obito's other eye so he can have Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's won't be dead right away. He and Kakashi will get a bond going and He ask Kakashi to take his other eye.

 

[saw2097]

That is an interesting theory but I am not sure its possible for Oro to take a dead body.

 

[OopsWrongHole]

Good theory man, Orochimaru will probably be on the battlefield by next chapter. It wouldn't surprise me if he would try to take over Obito's body but he's about to die so I don't think Orochimaru will have much use for it. I think he intended to awaken the Rinnegan in both eyes in order to complete his ambition and that's why he needed Sasuke's body specifically.

Again though, great theory, I hope to see more =D

I've seen your sig a lot lately. Thank you! =D

Now this theory is quite good, nice job mate.

 

[Oriver]

Nagato brought a massive number of people back to life
Obito would only be doing one.
So would he *have* to die in the process?

I know Nagota was an Uzamaki [sp?]
but would the Chakra difference be that great?

ORiver

 

[neowenbin]

minato is currently occupied with maintaining the barrier for the juuby, so he can't just get away right now. also, he might have senced something but how would he get there. i'm sure obito got rid of the marking placed on him 16 years befor so minato can't just teleport away to him. I don't think minato is going to be the one saving him.
kakashi seems more likly, as his former friend and classmate. it's a bit like sasuke and naruto.

It make sense with Minato maintaining the barrier for Juubi and not able to leave his position and save Obito, it would be really touching if Minato could only look at Obito suffer, then thinking back on how he failed to protect his students back then and allowed Obito to get crushed by the rocks. And if the plot really goes this way, when Minato is depressed because he can't save his student again, someone else will probably save Obito. It most probably will be Kakashi, then Minato could look at Kakashi and think to himself something like 'You guys have grown up... Sensei's sorry...'

But one thing that doesn't link is that before Obito left Kamui's dimension, he said he wasn't gonna let Shinobi Alliance win this war, so Kakashi would naturally think that Obito went out to create more trouble, so Kakashi kamui-ing out and saving Obito doesn't really make sense in this case because logically thinking, Kakashi still thinks that Obito is a bad person, but who knows, there's always plot no jutsu.

 

[neowenbin]

I'm looking forward to Kakashi gaining Obito's other eye so he can have Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Obito's won't be dead right away. He and Kakashi will get a bond going and He ask Kakashi to take his other eye.

Kakashi gaining Obito's other eye and unlocking EMS doesn't work in my opinion, I remembered reading somewhere the other pair of MS eyes must be from a blood relative to be compatible. But one way to explain this if it really happen is that, the same eyes are being separated from each other for a long time, the 2 eyes are similar, but what they've seen are very different things, thus, creating a distance far enough to evolve his MS to EMS, simply to say, plot no jutsu.

Another theory is that, as many of you all know that Kakashi used Kamui so many times in this war arc, it might have exhausted the MS that he have, so at Obito's deathbed, he sees Kakashi bleeding from the eye, and says something like, 'Remember the last time we were in this situation?', Kakashi says "Obito...", Obito then tells him that his eyes will be blind because he exhausted it too much, then just right before his last breath he'll probably say, take my right eye Kakashi.

Afterall, it will be cool, but explanations and stuff like that, and we're moving away from the current arc which is just getting started. And since this manga is called Naruto, not Kakashi, I doubt Kishi will spend that much effort developing Kakashi, unless he thinks doing it is worth it.

 

[neowenbin]

That is an interesting theory but I am not sure its possible for Oro to take a dead body.

I think that Orochimaru is not able to take a dead body, but if Kishi really want to let Oro have the body, he'll let Oro take it when Obito is on the verge of death. You can refer to some of the other posts above, I think I explained more thoroughly there.

 

[neowenbin]

Nagato brought a massive number of people back to life
Obito would only be doing one.
So would he *have* to die in the process?

I know Nagota was an Uzamaki [sp?]
but would the Chakra difference be that great?

ORiver

From what I've remembered, Nagato stated that it wasn't too late to save those in Konoha, it probably meant that his chakra pool at that time was only enough to revive those that died in the Pain's Invasion.

After using Rinne Tensei, Nagato's red hair turned white, it probably meant the over-exertion of chakra and that's why he died.

So from above, we can hypothesize that the longer ago the person died, the more chakra is needed revive.
The jutsu user is not exchanging his life to revive, it's just that it requires massive amount of chakra and jutsu user will most probably die in the process of over-exertion of chakra.

We do not know exact difference of chakra pool between Senju and Uzumaki, but at the current stage of manga, Senju > Uzumaki, but don't forget Obito have senju cells in him too, but he's battered currently, so the senju cells might be used to explain why could he revive Madara in that state, where they believe that it requires huge amount of chakra to do so, but it couldn't have came from an Uchiha who just finished a fight because Uchihas are kinda famous for exhausting their chakra due to the use of their sharingan techs.