Obito's Dimension/Kamui

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I don't understand how Kakashi/Naruto can be warped into Obito's dimension and see his phased body parts right next to them when no one before this fight has ever seen it or been able to do so. It seems as though he has the ability to choose where he warps people into his dimension so why wouldn't he do it now?
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So at the Kage Summit Obito sucked in Sasuke and Karin, then shortly after chased down Danzo and had a brief fight with his guards. In this brief fight he phased multiple times and was never seen in the other dimension by Karin or Sasuke. Also when he warped them both they were apparentally warped somewhere other than Sasuke and Karin as they never crossed paths. Obito phases a couple times shortly after and is never attacked by either of them. (It is later stated they were in a sharingan genjutsu the whole time but it couldn't have been until after the fight that he put them under the genjutsu.)
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Now however Obito warps Kakashi to his dimension and he is conveniently right by where his phased body is. He obviously has the ability to decide where in his dimension to warp people so why would he warp Kakashi right where he could attack him? Just something I was thinking about give your thoughts and opinions.
 

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What evidence is there to the statement that Sasuke and Karin did not see Obito's body parts in the dimension?
 

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What evidence is there to the statement that Sasuke and Karin did not see Obito's body parts in the dimension?

It's assumed, even if they did see him that doesn't answer the question.
 

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It's assumed, even if they did see him that doesn't answer the question.

He can most likely send things from the other dimension back wherever they are placed. That's why he kamuied out the stakes out of nowhere VS Naruto and giant Shurikens even though they were no where around when Kakashi entered the dimension.
That also explains how he could kamui Sasuke out of his dimension even though he has moved from kage summit while Sasuke did not move a bit in the kamui dimension.
 

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There seems to be different parts of his dimension, when Naruto attacked him with the rasengan to the face there wasn't any platforms under his feet.
 

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It could be the space in the other dimension is relative to the place int the real world. For example When sasuke and karin where warped to the other dimension they where at the kage summit building but he fought danzo's bodyguards a good distance away from that place. However when he's fighting naruto and kakashi he warped both of them in a relatively similar area from where he is warping himself.
 

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havent you noticed?

the better ninja get trolled hard.

obito- trolled
madara- soon to be troll
itachi- sick trolled
kisame- soloed 8 tails trolled
etc

ask long as ur from konaha you can do just about anything
 

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Again, kishi pulling shit out of his ass so a near god level person can be fought
I.E: Pain, DSM Kabuto, Edo Madara etc
 

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What I want to know is why the body parts were transported right where kakashi was so he can punch when the dimension probably has limitless and it's just has to land by kakashi so he can punch him. Is it just a coincidence?
 

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It could be the space in the other dimension is relative to the place int the real world. For example When sasuke and karin where warped to the other dimension they where at the kage summit building but he fought danzo's bodyguards a good distance away from that place. However when he's fighting naruto and kakashi he warped both of them in a relatively similar area from where he is warping himself.
This is how I felt it was as well, Obito warped Danzos first guard then phased before warping the second one, if this was the case why did the first guard not attack him while he was phased even for a short amount of time.
 

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This is how I felt it was as well, Obito warped Danzos first guard then phased before warping the second one, if this was the case why did the first guard not attack him while he was phased even for a short amount of time.

It could be he was already under genjutsu or because he was unsure of how the kamui technique worked he failed to act on the opportunity.
 

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kishi can have countless explanations for this .
 

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I don't understand how Kakashi/Naruto can be warped into Obito's dimension and see his phased body parts right next to them when no one before this fight has ever seen it or been able to do so. It seems as though he has the ability to choose where he warps people into his dimension so why wouldn't he do it now?
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So at the Kage Summit Obito sucked in Sasuke and Karin, then shortly after chased down Danzo and had a brief fight with his guards. In this brief fight he phased multiple times and was never seen in the other dimension by Karin or Sasuke. Also when he warped them both they were apparentally warped somewhere other than Sasuke and Karin as they never crossed paths. Obito phases a couple times shortly after and is never attacked by either of them. (It is later stated they were in a sharingan genjutsu the whole time but it couldn't have been until after the fight that he put them under the genjutsu.)
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Now however Obito warps Kakashi to his dimension and he is conveniently right by where his phased body is. He obviously has the ability to decide where in his dimension to warp people so why would he warp Kakashi right where he could attack him? Just something I was thinking about give your thoughts and opinions.

Cuz he thought Kakashi was dead meat already......
 

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Only if you could understand how the kamui works....

Obito creates another parallel dimension to transport himself/parts of his body so that he could avoid being hit.
So, when he 'disppears', he actually is still there but in the other dimension.
Now, Kakashi can go to the same dimension due to the eye being obito's. So that's why, his kunai, Naruto's rasengan etc. could hit obito because obito was in the same place but in different dimension.

Note Karin and Sasuke were wrapped in a different location and when he fought Fuu and Torune, the location was different.
So they were in the other dimension at different places.
 

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well we can't tell for sure that Obito was warped next to Kakashi... manga is not clear , maybe when this chapter will be available as an anime maybe they will make it as if Obito warped to place farther than Kakashi and Kakashi will make a run for it to hit it...this is one.
Or cuz of their eyes are connected maybe Kakashi can figure out where Obito will warp himself ... believe me Kishi will make Kakashi a legend in this fight ...
 

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I say Kishi is trying so hard to convince as that he knows what he's doing but I think he's lost in his own world
 

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Where sasuke and karin was is no where near where obito's body would be appearing.

They might of been able to see when he let A phase through him but not the danzo fight.

It's parallel to the real would so distance is the same
 

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Only if you could understand how the kamui works....

Obito creates another parallel dimension to transport himself/parts of his body so that he could avoid being hit.
So, when he 'disppears', he actually is still there but in the other dimension.
Now, Kakashi can go to the same dimension due to the eye being obito's. So that's why, his kunai, Naruto's rasengan etc. could hit obito because obito was in the same place but in different dimension.

Note Karin and Sasuke were wrapped in a different location and when he fought Fuu and Torune, the location was different.
So they were in the other dimension at different places.
This could be a possible explanation.
 

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I say Kishi is trying so hard to convince as that he knows what he's doing but I think he's lost in his own world

And I say you are the one lost in your own world with your ridiculous assumptions!

Someone with the mental capacity to create this story and everything in it, can never go wrong!
 

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I don't understand how Kakashi/Naruto can be warped into Obito's dimension and see his phased body parts right next to them when no one before this fight has ever seen it or been able to do so. It seems as though he has the ability to choose where he warps people into his dimension so why wouldn't he do it now?
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So at the Kage Summit Obito sucked in Sasuke and Karin, then shortly after chased down Danzo and had a brief fight with his guards. In this brief fight he phased multiple times and was never seen in the other dimension by Karin or Sasuke. Also when he warped them both they were apparentally warped somewhere other than Sasuke and Karin as they never crossed paths. Obito phases a couple times shortly after and is never attacked by either of them. (It is later stated they were in a sharingan genjutsu the whole time but it couldn't have been until after the fight that he put them under the genjutsu.)
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Now however Obito warps Kakashi to his dimension and he is conveniently right by where his phased body is. He obviously has the ability to decide where in his dimension to warp people so why would he warp Kakashi right where he could attack him? Just something I was thinking about give your thoughts and opinions.

The dimension is the opposite of reality, i believe that if tobi was to be in a different place in reality he would be in a different place in the dimension.

When he warped Sasuke & Karnin he left them in same spot they were before just in the other side of reality so they were in the same spot just not physically there.

Which is why when he wrapped Kakashi away, he was in the same spot in reality hence why kakashi was able to see him because he was in the same space just in a opposite side of reality.
Let's say you have camp A & B

If he wraps someone away in A and does to location B, The person from A will not be able to see him. If he wraps someone away from B, while staying in the same location and fighting like he did against Naruto & Kakashi. If he wraps himself in Location B the person he wrapped in that location would be able to see him which is why kakashi was able to do so.

However, Tobi must be able to somehow choice were ever he want's to teleport himself in the other dimension, so when he comes back in to reality he is were he was in the dimension, although he is able to move and be wherever he want's in the Dimension, But! I don't think he has the ability to move people anywhere he wants in the dimension, i think he can only wrap them in the location that they were in when he wrapped them.

That's my assumption .. Who knows, it's impossible to speculate on!
 
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