[Discussion] Obito's Body Being Crushed and Physics. I know I shouldn't use it

[n00bsauce]

So something has been bothering me. Obito being crushed and all. If "supposedly" his right side was crushed, then how was he able to talk? Wouldn't his skull be crushed as well as his brain? There would be no way for him to interact with Kakashi or Rin during that time.

I say that only to say that it could be plausible that his left eye was never crushed. Or if it was damaged, it wasn't damaged that he couldn't have been repaired.

Now that could lead me to the next part of this discussion. Edo Tensei. Ok, yes the body will be revived back to it's original state and if that is the case, then that eye would still be usable. Why wouldn't you be able to just transplant that eye after Obito has been revived via Edo Tensei? And then just keep the body sealed somewhere so no one can mess with it to be sent back to the afterlife?

So this isn't me saying that Tobi is Obito, but someone performing eye surgery to what we now see as Tobi. Or in fact, Tobi himself performing Edo Tensei on Obito and taking his Sharingan.

I know it's a stretch on connecting the two, but just something to throw out there. My only guess is that Tobi is a Uchiha who was becoming blind or became blind altogether and found a 2nd way to achieve his goals by reviving Obito. That would mean he would have been at the scene of the crime where Obito had presumably died.

 

[killa sage]

i also wondered this +rep

 

[Knightuchiha]

i dont think kishi was thinking this far ahead when he "crushed" obito's "entire" right side

 

[Rozzy]

Kakashi is one of the smartest in the manga so I'm sure he would notice this.

 

[10023213]

search bar must have been crushed

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

...

 

[jaykuhz]

search bar must have been crushed

LOL
+rep

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

This horse has been beaten to death.

The only logical possibility is that his right side wasn't completely crushed, i.e. it wasn't flattened. The human skull can withstand a lot of pressure, especially if it's distributed correctly. It acts as a shield to the organs inside, including the eyes. While Obito's right side may have been trapped under the rock that does not mean all of it was irreparably damaged.

 

[Batches]

I've always wondered why kakashi never used lightning Blade on the boulder and just got him out from under there. he couldve atleast brought the body back to the village for a proper burial

 

[mabanae]

duuuuude u cant take anything from edo tensei, if u take out the eye it will disapear in ur hands and regenerate at the owner of the eye.

 

[Higekage]

You can't take an eye from an Edo. When you cut them they're all like paper forming back again.

I agree his head wasn't smashed by the rocks. I think the boulder was shaped so it hit his body below his face like I've said before. That's why Tobi could get his sharingan

 

[Narutohokage7]

Why apply real world logic to a MANGA? Do you think hmm he just breathed fire but I can't so that is bs? No. Keep real world logic out of it. Plus who is to say the rocks crushed his right side..

 

[mabanae]

i dont think kishi was thinking this far ahead when he "crushed" obito's "entire" right side

true

 

[n00bsauce]

That I can tell you, he was banned from using it from Minato since he couldn't control it. However, the rock won't move so he wouldn't miss the target. Good point made.

I guess he just forgot about it. But if that was the case, I don't think we would have a Tobi. At least not one that has Kamui. And that would mean the world of difference. Konan would have had a better shot of killing Tobi since he couldn't have phased out.

 

[n00bsauce]

And yes, I already said in the title I shouldn't have used it, but sometimes the lolphysics get the best of me. And my brain just works too hard instead of just accepting things for what they are.

I'm just saying, there could have been medical ninjas that has the talent to regenerate lost limbs and crushed bones. If Obito could still talk after he got "crushed" by the boulder, maybe someone did the regeneration for Obito. Died. Then was revived by Edo Tensei with complete use of his body with just one of his eyes.

Or never died and his eye was taken with or without his consent by Tobi. We don't have the body as proof. We all just assume he's dead just because he's under a pile of rocks.

Yes I know that last sentence made me sound stupid, but in the land of Naruto, stranger things have happened.

 

[CudaJoe]

Tobi phases through objects. If Tobi is Obito, then Obito phased through the rock. Seems like really simple logic to me. I dont understand why its so hard for anyone to realize that.

How does Tobi phase through objects? I mean the skill required to constantly focus on what body parts... no... what CELLS to move into the other dimension is mind boggling. Remember when he said, "I should have phased through..." I dont think he actually has the concious ability to send any part of his body when ever he feels like it. Its almost like a response mechanism of the Sharingan to protect the sharingan user. More justification to this theory is that when ever he transports items/ people/ himself into the other dimension fully, he uses his version of Kamui which is close range. You never see a Kamui at any given part of his body when he's phasing. You also dont just see him dissappear without any sort of cyclonic blackhole looking teleportation.

I think Obito was never crushed by the rock. He just didnt recognize his abilities yet.

 

[Takos]

It's an interesting idea, but totally wrong. Why?

Tobi had Obito's eye during his fight against Minato (he used s/t ninjutsu which he has thanks to Obito's MS) so he would need to use Edo earlier. But Tobi cannot do Edo, as proved by the fact he knew absolutely nothing about it, he didn't know how it works or how to cancel it and demanded Kabuto to tell him.

/thread

 

[CudaJoe]

It's an interesting idea, but totally wrong. Why?

Tobi had Obito's eye during his fight against Minato (he used s/t ninjutsu which he has thanks to Obito's MS) so he would need to use Edo earlier. But Tobi cannot do Edo, as proved by the fact he knew absolutely nothing about it, he didn't know how it works or how to cancel it and demanded Kabuto to tell him.

/thread

You did not read my post. Read my post.

Tobi attack Minato 4 years after the bridge battle where Obito dies. This is the first time (or second time) we witnessed Obito's eyes abilities. 4 Years is a LONG time in the Naruto world to perfect any technique. I mean look at Sasuke and Naruto. They became rediculous in a manner of a few years.

If obito was 11-13 at the battle of the bridge, then he was a teenager by the time of Naruto's birth. naruto currently is 16 yr old. Its possible that Obito was 16-17yrs old when he attack Minato to get the 9 tails. Its also possible that it could be Danzo that was behind the mask at that time. Danzo and Obito might be swapping eyes like pokemon cards.

 

[Takos]

You did not read my post. Read my post.

Tobi attack Minato 4 years after the bridge battle where Obito dies. This is the first time (or second time) we witnessed Obito's eyes abilities. 4 Years is a LONG time in the Naruto world to perfect any technique. I mean look at Sasuke and Naruto. They became rediculous in a manner of a few years.

If obito was 11-13 at the battle of the bridge, then he was a teenager by the time of Naruto's birth. naruto currently is 16 yr old. Its possible that Obito was 16-17yrs old when he attack Minato to get the 9 tails. Its also possible that it could be Danzo that was behind the mask at that time. Danzo and Obito might be swapping eyes like pokemon cards.

Well... I was responding to OP.

Or in fact, Tobi himself performing Edo Tensei on Obito and taking his Sharingan.

^More precisely this idea. I have nothing against your theory though. xd

However, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think only one year passed between Obito's "death" and Tobi's attack on Konoha.

 

[CudaJoe]

Well... I was responding to OP.



^More precisely this idea. I have nothing against your theory though. xd

However, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think only one year passed between Obito's "death" and Tobi's attack on Konoha.

They cant take any body parts off of an Edo Tensei victim. They just crumple into paper and reform on the original body. I mean take Itachi for example. He seems to have his eyes in Edo form, but I thought Sasuke took them already??? The Edo form and the real form are no where near similar. That being said, that is no Edo Tensei Obito, or Edo Tensei Obito eye. That means logically the Obito eye could not have been crushed.

And yes, its true, a bolder of that size SHOULD crush a human skull with ease.