[Spoilers] Obito's a failure as a villain

[RinneBlitz]

The new chapter is all we need to say that Obito failed hard as a villain. He was destroyed by Naruto, Sasuke and the remaining K11, he couldn't achieve his goal, he became a victim of

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when Naruto activated it and now he's merely a vessel for Black Zetsu, forced to fight Minato and Kakashi.

You're gonna ask why? Because he was the main villain of the manga for 200+ chapters and could only kill Neji, who isn't main character (he's great and all, but he's not like Sasuke or Naruto, c'mon). Now look at Madara, he's so OP that he killed (perhaps) both Naruto and Sausage in 3 (!!!) chapters! Since the manga's on a break next week (which really sucks, I mean c'mon, we didn't have new manga from 25 December to 15 January, now we've got 2 chapters and again, breaks...), starting the week of the next chapter's release, the manga will be called Madara Shippuuden.

Here's the proof:

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Madara solo'd my favorite character and the title character, I hate him more than anyone, but he's Godlike OP right now. _@:

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Obito is not a failure he decided not to finish his plans himself he couldve killed everyone by doing 4 juubidamas again without a barrier. Obito by far is the most villainous because he caused the main character to SUFFER more than anyone else.

 

[Everztar]

every villain is a failure... watch madara at the end and tell me how much of a successor he is.

 

[griems]

Yeah Madara is so much more fun.. Power after power after power after power and nobody can stop him. The entire battle of the Kages uniting and fighting together was totally useless because this one char just couldn't be killed. Naruto/Sasuke teaming up useless, edo-tensei Hokages useless...

And his plan... some lame ass infinite genjutsu, Tell me; did he even think to stop what would happen when the earth turns and people can't even see the moon anymore? Or is that too going to magicly stay in the air... he's gonna stop the world from turning? And what would happen to EVERYONE even the innocent people he's never met at the other side of the planet - they're going to get trapped too? Wouldnt everyone just DIE because they couldn't eat or drink anymore and thus making humanity extinct, or is that part of his genius plan aswel? It was cool when Obito talked about it because he actually believed this was the only way to achieve peace but atleast he had somewhat of a struggle fighting people to achieve it ;/

This is even worse than reading the frigging Buu chapters who just kept on absorbing people and ruined any story progression along the way just because fans pressured the writer to have Goku be the one to beat him in the end.

Can't wait for this horrible character to just die already.

 

[RinneBlitz]

Yeah Madara is so much more fun.. Power after power after power after power and nobody can stop him. The entire battle of the Kages uniting and fighting together was totally useless because this one char just couldn't be killed. Naruto/Sasuke teaming up useless, edo-tensei Hokages useless...

And his plan... some lame ass infinite genjutsu, Tell me; did he even think to stop what would happen when the earth turns and people can't even see the moon anymore? Or is that too going to magicly stay in the air... he's gonna stop the world from turning? And what would happen to EVERYONE even the innocent people he's never met at the other side of the planet - they're going to get trapped too? Wouldnt everyone just DIE because they couldn't eat or drink anymore and thus making humanity extinct, or is that part of his genius plan aswel? It was cool when Obito talked about it because he actually believed this was the only way to achieve peace but atleast he had somewhat of a struggle fighting people to achieve it ;/

This is even worse than reading the frigging Buu chapters who just kept on absorbing people and ruined any story progression along the way just because fans pressured the writer to have Goku be the one to beat him in the end.

Can't wait for this horrible character to just die already.

I want him to die more than anyone in the manga, but I don't really see who'll kill him. Perhaps Karin as a vengeance for Sausage?

 

[griems]

I want him to die more than anyone in the manga, but I don't really see who'll kill him. Perhaps Karin as a vengeance for Sausage?

At this point id be cool with TonTon beating him.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I disagree. I wish Kishi would've had him kill more characters, but Obito is my favorite villain. His mindset is really interesting and I liked his way about going with his plan. He believed what he spoke. Sure, he didn't kill main people, but that doesn't mean he was a failure.

 

[phantomlord22]

this is such a shame!

do people even read this Managa!?

 

[RinneBlitz]

this is such a shame!

do people even read this Managa!?

Manga*. Yep, I do. And yes, Madara > Obito as a villain. Even Orochimaru > Obito. :/

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Obito ''could'' have defeated everyone

he lacked conviction, hence why he constantly questioned why Naruto would not give up as if to give himself motivation to believe again

depends on what you want from a villain

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

every villain is a failure... watch madara at the end and tell me how much of a successor he is.

pretty much this ^^

 

[GhostProject]

He lost as a villain because he didn't actually feel like going forth with the plan. Every time he began with one of his nihilism speeches to Naruto as the jinchuuriki, he could have actually just completely killed him in those downed moments. When Obito wasn't in control of the Juubi as a jin, he immediately just started destroying everything.

He failed as a villain because he still has something pivotal to do as a hero, I guarantee it

 

[psukkar]

Re: Obito's a failure as a villain g

Obito is not a failure he decided not to finish his plans himself he couldve killed everyone by doing 4 juubidamas again without a barrier. Obito by far is the most villainous because he caused the main character to SUFFER more than anyone else.

Obito isn't a good villain because his motivation and justifications are silly. He's child really.

Compare him to nagato and madara who actually experienced the harshness of war and they actually fough in these wars long enough that it shaped them into the men they are.

Obito cried about one death that he doesn't understand why it happened and baviclly blamed everyone dispute run herself wanted to jshashi to kill her. Also the fact run liked kahashi wouldn't helped.

Nit saying it can't be okay villain but he is no where the likes if nagato and madara, even orcihmaru had better motivations.

 

[Momochifanboy]

Yeah they are f#cked up...

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

I disagree. I wish Kishi would've had him kill more characters, but Obito is my favorite villain. His mindset is really interesting and I liked his way about going with his plan. He believed what he spoke. Sure, he didn't kill main people, but that doesn't mean he was a failure.

He obviously didn't if in the end he was tnj'd. All the way up until his mask can off he was one of my favorites but his badass factor went way down after the mask came off and then those gay imaginary flash backs of him staying with village and becomming hokage. Like come on he let victory slip right through his fingers. He had god like power and was defeated by words. Where are villains like cell aiezn sephiroth who die with resolve. That's why I like madara it seems as though no one can tnj him but hey it's naruto I could be wrong

 

[vasu 32]

just because a person fails at the end,people forget everything he achieved till that point...

Obito's character got a depth. You saying his reasons are childish than nagato and madara just proves you're still a kid. All 3 of them lived in an era of war in their respective time and all 3 of them lost the only person they consider their light.

 

[Murasame]

Re: Obito's a failure as a villain g

Obito isn't a good villain because his motivation and justifications are silly. He's child really.

Compare him to nagato and madara who actually experienced the harshness of war and they actually fough in these wars long enough that it shaped them into the men they are.

Obito cried about one death that he doesn't understand why it happened and baviclly blamed everyone dispute run herself wanted to jshashi to kill her. Also the fact run liked kahashi wouldn't helped.

Nit saying it can't be okay villain but he is no where the likes if nagato and madara, even orcihmaru had better motivations.

Loool what a shitty post... if you want once I get back from school I'll counter this petty post of yours.

OT: I see Obito more of an antagonist than a villain so I believe you're wrong there. Also Madara didn't fight Minato, Tobirama, Naruto, and Sasuke at the same time heck the alliance helped as well.. Madara took them out individuall and he's having spiral zetsu distract the alliance as well. Lol

 

[The Akatsuki Knightz]

Re: Obito's a failure as a villain g

Obito isn't a good villain because his motivation and justifications are silly. He's child really.

Compare him to nagato and madara who actually experienced the harshness of war and they actually fough in these wars long enough that it shaped them into the men they are.

Obito cried about one death that he doesn't understand why it happened and baviclly blamed everyone dispute run herself wanted to jshashi to kill her. Also the fact run liked kahashi wouldn't helped.

Nit saying it can't be okay villain but he is no where the likes if nagato and madara, even orcihmaru had better motivations.

clearly you are a idiot. Obito has gone threw hell half of his body destroyed getting his cells all mixed up watching as his best friend killed his lover. you my friend fail so hard troll go home

 

[Byron123]

To think Obito as a villain was the mistake in the first place. Kishimoto has never planned to depict him as one. It was we, the fans who thought of him as a villain because of his cool mask and power. However, Obito as a chracter only shows how hardships can completely change someone in case he becomes victim of cruelty. Also, you should take into consideration that he had no parents so it's not like that he had that many things back to search for. Also, the fact that he had the most cruel experience can be seen in chapter 605, Hell which is the most brutal chapter ever, also, he had sharingan and as Tobirama said, this played a major role on how Uchiha change. In any case, Obito did not loose neither because of the SA, nor Naruto, Sasuke, K11 and everyone together; He lost because he slowly started to re- examine his actions and so he wasn't anyomore that motivated to fight. I mean it's obvious. The moment Naruto and Sasuke managed to land a hit on him was the moment that he thought of his old dream and lost his concentration.
All in all, Obito's role in the whole plot was not that of a villain. He was a character who was supposed to be used in order for the readers to understand how a person can completely change completely from a carrying person, to a sadistic one and finally to a very fragile, without any purpose to live, figure. And that's why the fans hate him, they thought of him as the bad guy while he was a person with a specific dream, that once he realised that it wouldn't bring him any peace, he forfeited from it and from any will to live.

 

[Jack Spicer]

He obviously didn't if in the end he was tnj'd. All the way up until his mask can off he was one of my favorites but his badass factor went way down after the mask came off and then those gay imaginary flash backs of him staying with village and becomming hokage. Like come on he let victory slip right through his fingers. He had god like power and was defeated by words. Where are villains like cell aiezn sephiroth who die with resolve. That's why I like madara it seems as though no one can tnj him but hey it's naruto I could be wrong

He wasn't defeated by words. He was defeated by Naruto fighting. Remember when he Naruto was talking to him? Obito grabbed him by the throat. He wasn't going to listen. Naruto won. Now, Obito wanted Naruto to embrace his ideal, which is why they talked a lot and gave us an insight into Obito, but Naruto's words didn't scratch the surface until after Obito was already defeated atleast truly, anyways. He did think about Rin due to Naruto's words, but he always did that. So, maybe Naruto did help, but it wasn't like Pain for example. Naruto completely took Nagato with words, but he just cracked Obito. He made Obito think of Obito's formerself. Obito deemed people fake when they did something out of character. In reality, he was being fake too. It's really beautiful actually. So, when I think about it, Naruto did have a role, but he just cracked the shell. Obito's old self and his own beliefs let his guard down while Naruto extracted the beasts and took advantage of an insane's man weakness.

I felt everything with Obito was long at the time (mainly because nobody died beside Neji), but looking back on it, I really like it. It would've been way more impactful if he took down more people, especially after his this is reality speech to Naruto after he mocked Neji's death. That was a powerful realization for Naruto and it could've been bigger than it was, but it was still something, you know? I get what you're saying though.

Anyways, I hope Madara doesn't get talked to either, but it seems the theme is Naruto can change anyone (Except for Sasuke apparently because Hashirama did that which makes no sense because Naruto is supposed to be about Naruto reaching to people, not Hashirama). So, we'll see.