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I am sorry, but wiki is written by random people. So, i don't trust it.

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Lol Jeez, want another definition then? Okay all you had to do was ask: [ ] [ ]

Obito fits both of these categories, care to deny? or is "dictionary.com" not official enough for you either?
 
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Haha, I'm sorry, are you dumb? Does this seem like a hero to you? [ ]

Maybe you aren't a complete moron, but its dumbfounding that you think a guy that is selfishly imposing his will onto the world and killing anyone who stands in his way is not a villain.
 

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Lol Jeez, want another definition then? Okay all you had to do was ask: [ ] [ ]

Obito fits both of these categories, care to deny? or is "dictionary.com" not official enough for you either?
Even their meanings is completely different than each other. You should reread it. I will say it again:

Villain is evil who does any bad thing. Antagonist does NOT have to be evil, but he does bad things opposing the protagonist.

What Obito has been doing all alone is hurting and opposing Naruto(protagonist). He is not villain, and Kakashi confirmed it.

Haha, I'm sorry, are you dumb? Does this seem like a hero to you? [ ]

Maybe you aren't a complete moron, but its dumbfounding that you think a guy that is selfishly imposing his will onto the world and killing anyone who stands in his way is not a villain.
If you're referring this to me, then reread Kakashi's words instead of insulting. Anyone will achieve what ever they can for their goals. Even if killing people, it wouldn't make them evil.
 
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Even their meanings is completely different than each other. You should reread it. I will say it again:

Villain is evil who does any bad thing. Antagonist does NOT have to be evil, but he does bad things opposing the protagonist.

What Obito has been doing all alone is hurting and opposing Naruto(protagonist). He is not villain, and Kakashi confirmed it.
Antagonist and villain aren't mutually exclusive. Obito has done many things to classify him as a villain. Starting a WAR? Villain. 50000+ shinobi have died through his actions.
 

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Antagonist and villain aren't mutually exclusive. Obito has done many things to classify him as a villain. Starting a WAR? Villain. 50000+ shinobi have died through his actions.
Evil is someone classified by his intent. Obito has done what he ever he wanted to achieve his goal, which is peace. Unless you think soldiers from the real world are evil, since they killed innocent people for the sake of their country.
 

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Lets see, He:

Started a world war
Formed a terrorist organisation
Manipulated Nagato
Manipulated Sasuke
Betrayed Madara
Controlled Kirigakure via Yagura
Kidnapped the Jinchuriki
Been responsible for at leas 50,000 deaths
Was about 5 seconds away from destroying the world.


Yes, he is a villain.
 

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Starting a world war that kills 10s of 1000s so everyone can be hooked up to a hive mind is pretty villainous.
Those who think Tobi wasn't a villain must also think Madara isn't a villain.

I'll take this time to express how utterly extraordinary "Tobi" was. The enigmatic Akatsuki leader with the odd dimensional power. He really was a cool villain.
 

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Even their meanings is completely different than each other. You should reread it. I will say it again:

Villain is evil who does any bad thing. Antagonist does NOT have to be evil, but he does bad things opposing the protagonist.

What Obito has been doing all alone is hurting and opposing Naruto(protagonist). He is not villain, and Kakashi confirmed it.
I dont need to reread anything.

Was obito a cruelly malicious person who was involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime? Yes he was.

Is he a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constituted an important evil agency in the plot? Yes he is. Therefore he is a villain.

He is also a person who is opposed to, struggles against, or competes with another; opponent; adversary. & Was the adversary of the hero or protagonist. Therefore he is an antagonist.

Definitions > Your interpretation.
 

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I dont need to reread anything.

Was obito a cruelly malicious person who was involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime? Yes he was.

Is he a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constituted an important evil agency in the plot? Yes he is. Therefore he is a villain.

He is also a person who is opposed to, struggles against, or competes with another; opponent; adversary. & Was the adversary of the hero or protagonist. Therefore he is an antagonist.

Definitions > Your interpretation.
Nope...that's your interpenetration. Not a definition. So, you keep believing in this stuff, while i side with facts that Obito wants peace and makes him antagonist.
 
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