Obito your making me hate you. Just stop

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Why is everyone getting butthurt because obito is telling the true. Minato was a shitty sensei and was never there for his students when they really needed him. He really isn't all that amazing when you think about it.

Correction: Some people.
 

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Why is everyone getting butthurt because obito is telling the true. Minato was a shitty sensei and was never there for his students when they really needed him. He really isn't all that amazing when you think about it.
It's not that, but the reasoning behind his actions. Obito's actions are not justified and his rabid fanboys really aren't helping matters. Obito was great as Tobi, but not so much once he dropped the facade. He could have went about things a different way.


He'll die at the end of the series so its ok.
You know what? You're right! He's going to die soon so let me just relax and eat my favourite cereal! :yayy:
 

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It's not that, but the reasoning behind his actions. Obito's actions are not justified and his rabid fanboys really aren't helping matters. Obito was great as Tobi, but not so much once he dropped the facade. He could have went about things a different way.



You know what? You're right! He's going to die soon so let me just relax and eat my favourite cereal! :yayy:


Why would his actions be justified, he's a villain, if his logic wasn't flawed what's to stop readers with siding with him, Kishi's execution and use of Rin has been bad, but Obito isn't doing this because Rin died, it's because Rin had to die for the sake of other, she had to be the loser in that situation for others to have peace which he doesn't think is fair.
 

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Why would his actions be justified, he's a villain, if his logic wasn't flawed what's to stop readers with siding with him, Kishi's execution and use of Rin has been bad, but Obito isn't doing this because Rin died, it's because Rin had to die for the sake of other, she had to be the loser in that situation for others to have peace which he doesn't think is fair.
I agree with you. His execution of Rin was bad as well. He should have developed her more as a character and showcased her friendship with Obito to truly get where he's coming from. His execution with their whole situation was sub-par for me. To be honest, the only person who seems to be legitimately suffering from this is Kakashi. You also get what I'm saying when I mention that most of what Obito is doing is because of Rin, right?


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In the words of Parrish: "Your haters be irate."
 

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I agree with you. His execution of Rin was bad as well. He should have developed her more as a character and showcased her friendship with Obito to truly get where he's coming from. His execution with their whole situation was sub-par for me. To be honest, the only person who seems to be legitimately suffering from this is Kakashi. You also get what I'm saying when I mention that most of what Obito is doing is because of Rin, right?



In the words of Parrish: "Your haters be irate."

Yeah, Rin was the cause sort of but that's because something he believed was starting to see as truth but was skeptical, Madara had been telling/brainwashing for months that hatred is born to protect love, people have to die in order for others to live, but I guess you don't really take things like that on board until you are personally affected by it, Obito saw Rin as part of this cycle.

I agree though Kakashi must have suffered more, but Kakashi still had Minato and Gai, ever since Obito's 'death', he has only had Madara who had preached this philosphy to him and he had soon gotten to the point of no return. Don't get me wrong, he still isn't a great character and you're right, it still is about Rin but not in the way people make it out to be. The execution was terrible for their situation, no arguments there.
 

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Actually, I really liked how he belittled Minato and made him question or even lose his resolve.:cool:
 

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Actually, I really liked how he belittled Minato and made him question or even lose his resolve.:cool:

Hmm...I'm not saying it was good, but it does show Minato with a moment of mental frailty and indecisiveness. I wonder if ppl will say Izanami won't work on him nao? Just a thought not trying to start anything just a thought I had.
 

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Agreed. Obito needs to get over her.
 

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I'd go for another debate. Do you want to debate now?

Sure ^_^ I'll reply the chance I get. I'll link you the thread.. you've been on it but didn't really discuss about it U_U

 

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"Your menial common sense and logic no longer apply to me..." - Obito (Manga Stream Chapter 642)

This needs to be printed on a shirt.
 

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"Your menial common sense and logic no longer apply to me..." - Obito (Manga Stream Chapter 642)

This needs to be printed on a shirt.

Then do that and actually contribute something of use to this thread.
 

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Oooh, another debate! I already lost to Biju over my pure laziness and lack of Will, let's see what Star will do XD
 
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