Obito was incomplete Rikudou Sennin - Madara is COMPLETE Rikudou Sennin

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Madara still needs, 50% kurama and his other rinnegan eye.

At this point it's safe to say He wont be getting either of them.

Obito will crush his rinnegan eye.

Naruto will get the other half of kurama.

Man naruto having the other half of kurama isn gonna do shit unless it comes with a damn powerup
 

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Well....as far as power, skill, etc. He is above Naruto....but you probably meant in the end Naruto will surpass him, correct? If so....I wholeheartedly agree.....

What I cannot wrap my head around is what exactly could Naruto or Sasuke receive to defeat him? Hashiramas binding Jutsu will no doubt play a part, but I don't think it will defeat him completely. Madara before becoming a Jin seemed faaaar too powerful for them to handle. His strength, speed, agility.....all of this has probably increased 50xs over....and before that he had no rival. I feel Kishi has a beautifully unique way of having him defeated. I believe he's been pondering it for some time nao..... I believe it will be nothing like Obitos...

How can the combat him is what I can't understand.....I guess Kishi will surprise us! ^_^

It was the same with obito. When he first became a jinchuriki it looked like no one could beat him. Madara was cautious of him and even hashirama said obito was sronger than he was. But he was defeated by friendship and TNJ.
 

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Man naruto having the other half of kurama isn gonna do shit unless it comes with a damn powerup

Well He will be as strong as he was before with other bonuses added to it. He might unlock something due to having traces of yang kyuubi chakra, all of 7 bijuu's chakra and His newly acquired Yin chakra.
 

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Well....as far as power, skill, etc. He is above Naruto....but you probably meant in the end Naruto will surpass him, correct? If so....I wholeheartedly agree.....

What I cannot wrap my head around is what exactly could Naruto or Sasuke receive to defeat him? Hashiramas binding Jutsu will no doubt play a part, but I don't think it will defeat him completely. Madara before becoming a Jin seemed faaaar too powerful for them to handle. His strength, speed, agility.....all of this has probably increased 50xs over....and before that he had no rival. I feel Kishi has a beautifully unique way of having him defeated. I believe he's been pondering it for some time nao..... I believe it will be nothing like Obitos...

How can they combat him, is what I can't understand.....I guess Kishi will surprise us! ^_^

Hashirama's jutsu will become irrelevant if MAdara doesn't have any of Hashirama's SM.

See the thing, is there is a limit to which he could reach. PS and etc are irrelevant now, no point in counting them. He will most likely be using the Juubi powers like Obito. In which he will be the same as Obito.

And yea, i mean sh*t only 1/4 of the alliance is left hardly, and on top of that 4 strongest ninja on the battlefield aren't there no more (Hashi/Tobirama/Naruto/Sasuke), I doubt this time they'll be overpowering him like the last time. Probably some hidden senju/uzumaki techniques going to come into play now.
 

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It was the same with obito. When he first became a jinchuriki it looked like no one could beat him. Madara was cautious of him and even hashirama said obito was sronger than he was. But he was defeated by friendship and TNJ.

Very goof point! We all know the power of friendship is Opd. :mad:_@: ^_^ If it turns out to be that..... I don't know what I'll say. I'll probably just laugh. XD
 

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Hashirama's jutsu will become irrelevant if MAdara doesn't have any of Hashirama's SM.

See the thing, is there is a limit to which he could reach. PS and etc are irrelevant now, no point in counting them. He will most likely be using the Juubi powers like Obito. In which he will be the same as Obito.

And yea, i mean sh*t only 1/4 of the alliance is left hardly, and on top of that 4 strongest ninja on the battlefield aren't there no more (Hashi/Tobirama/Naruto/Sasuke), I doubt this time they'll be overpowering him like the last time. Probably some hidden senju/uzumaki techniques going to come into play now.

Agreed...more than likely.....but I doubt Kishi will forget Hashiramas Jutsu. I believe Madara does still have SM. Kishi has allowed equally radical things to take place. So I don't rule anything out.

I wonder though...would him having SM make the shortcoming of being the Jin irrelevant? Much is to be thought about......I agree that most of his arsenal will consist of the powers of the Juubi.

I feel he will end similar to Aizen..... That the slightest miscalculation will be his downfall. Something he didn't account for.....
 

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it's still missing the other tentacle of the hox and 50 % of the kyuubi.
 

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*not complete. He still needs a Rinnegan and the other Kyuubi. Closer than Obito though. And he didn't let Obito become the Jinchuriki lol. He was concerned, and he even admitted things weren't going according to plan.
That being said, I feel Madara's becoming the Jinchuriki was rushed...
 

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Wrong.

IMO what you TRULY need is also some Uzumaki DNA or techniques.

Missing a tail or 2 from the 8 tails.
Missing Yin Kyuubi.
Lacking the ability for a true sage mode.
Also missing a Rinnegan.

The primary factors here are the 1 missing Rinnegan and the Yin Kyuubi.
 

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Madara looks like the ultimate superbeast especially with that long white hair, but.....

1. No 50% Yang Kurama

2. No left eye of the Rinnegan
 

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Madara has both Senju & Uchiha Chakra and has original Rinnegan, making him the complete reincarnation of Rikudou Sennin.

Obito was just a failed experiment, Madara knew this from the very beginning, that why he let Obito become the the Juubi host.

Now that Sage Madara has arrived we will see the true power of Rikudou Sennin, i predict that stomping time is about to begin!

Itachi is thinking " damn, i'm glad i'm dead!"

1. Madara's body is not a true body. Rather, it is a made up body from laboratory
2. Madara's eyes are in vitro, in-laboratory awakened. Thought they are called Rinnegan, they are not naturally obtained
3. We don't really know the power that Rikudo had, and how he look like from the front.

Clearly, saying that Madara is complete is an exaggeration because we have never seen Rikudo. Actually, Madara might be missing the six markings on Ginkaku, Kinkaku, and Naruto's faces. Besides, I wonder why in BM, the only thing Naruto is missing to look badass is Rinnegan. He might open it before getting Yin Kurama - LOL.
 

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Well he's still missing 50% of the strongest beast

And potentially a tentacle of the 8 tails.(as 8 tails may not have been fully extracted from bee.(he may still have a tentacles worth left in him))

Madara is still incomplete rikudo. Just he is much more complete than obito.
 

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*not complete. He still needs a Rinnegan and the other Kyuubi. Closer than Obito though. And he didn't let Obito become the Jinchuriki lol. He was concerned, and he even admitted things weren't going according to plan.
That being said, I feel Madara's becoming the Jinchuriki was rushed...
Agreed, it wasn't even the main focus of the chapter it just happen on a few panels.
 
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