obito vs orochimaru

[jay2512]

obito without rinnegan vs orochimaru


i don't see obito winning here.

havent seen obito use genjutsu to itachi's level or even sasukes.

orochimaru could bring out the 1st and 2nd hokages. even though they weren't perfect i believe obito would be a bit overwhelmed and orochimaru also has more in his arsenal like his eight branches technique. i think his usage of kusanagi would also end up catching obito off guard when he's not phasing.

thoughts?? most likely everyone will say obito but i just dont see obito hurting orochimaru.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Your right, all i seeobito doing is time space and rarely you see him do any other jutsu, orochimaru is a "genius" (well smart enough) and can easily find the weakness of that jutsu, also as you said hes almost invincible even if he gets brought back with only a fraction of his charkra obito cant keep up

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[KidGamer65]

What?? Obito's Genjutsu far surpasses Sasuke's and is probably on par with Itachi's...he was able to control a Perfect Jinchuuriki for an extended period of time.

When Orochimaru uses the Edo Hokage they can't use their true power (Hiruzen fight)

Obito can simply warp the Edos away..they can't even hit him.

Obito also has 10 min of Izanagi and his Katon jutsu.

In short Obito wins.

 

[TheTailedSage]

What?? Obito's Genjutsu far surpasses Sasuke's and is probably on par with Itachi's...he was able to control a Perfect Jinchuuriki for an extended period of time.

When Orochimaru uses the Edo Hokage they can't use their true power (Hiruzen fight)

Obito can simply warp the Edos away..they can't even hit him.

Obito also has 10 min of Izanagi and his Katon jutsu.

In short Obito wins.

Hold on, when u say tailed beast are u talking about when "obito" invaded the hidden leaf?? cause im not so sure that was him but if your talking about tailed beast extraction or the 10 tail statue then ok, ill give in a bit and say he has good control but
1. Not enough evidence to actually prove his genjustu is on parr with itatchis we only wittness him use the genjutsu "sharingan"... kakashi can do thisbut maybe not as strong
2.how many guys have got curse mark, to that logic he can just keep coming back as long as someone has curse mark
3. where talking about orochimaru here, this guy is annoyingly persistent does obito have enough stamina to keep up?? even if he did use time space this guy always finds ways of coming back
4 keeping in mind he can only use time space for a given while (5 minutes) or extend it to 10 min orochimaru has a trolling stamina and can go on for hours

 

[KidGamer65]

Hold on, when u say tailed beast are u talking about when "obito" invaded the hidden leaf?? cause im not so sure that was him but if your talking about tailed beast extraction or the 10 tail statue then ok, ill give in a bit and say he has good control but
1. Not enough evidence to actually prove his genjustu is on parr with itatchis we only wittness him use the genjutsu "sharingan"... kakashi can do thisbut maybe not as strong
2.how many guys have got curse mark, to that logic he can just keep coming back as long as someone has curse mark
3. where talking about orochimaru here, this guy is annoyingly persistent does obito have enough stamina to keep up?? even if he did use time space this guy always finds ways of coming back
4 keeping in mind he can only use time space for a given while (5 minutes) or extend it to 10 min orochimaru has a trolling stamina and can go on for hours

No I was referring to when he controlled Yagura...and that was Obito who invaded Konoha and fought Minato.

2. Someone has to bring him back; Orochimaru can't revive himself.

3.Obito has Senju DNA, of course he has enough stamina.

4.Tobi can only use his Kamui's intangibility for 5 minutes consecutively...if he ends it and starts it again the 5 min. resets. And Izanagi does more than extend it to 10 min. It gives him 10 min. of invincibility.

Obito can't be hit by Orochimaru anyway so he can't win...Obito can just warp him away with Kamui.

 

[TheTailedSage]

No I was referring to when he controlled Yagura...and that was Obito who invaded Konoha and fought Minato.

2. Someone has to bring him back; Orochimaru can't revive himself.

3.Obito has Senju DNA, of course he has enough stamina.

4.Tobi can only use his Kamui's intangibility for 5 minutes consecutively...if he ends it and starts it again the 5 min. resets. And Izanagi does more than extend it to 10 min. It gives him 10 min. of invincibility.

Obito can't be hit by Orochimaru anyway so he can't win...Obito can just warp him away with Kamui.

How could it be obito if at that time obito was still a kid and the "masked man" was a big man who had control over nine tails, time space AND mangyeku sharingan, we know that at this time he probably had lv2 lv3 bt even if he did have mangyeku sharingan at that time the nine tails was too much for him to handle at that time

1. ok fair point but how do you explain when he ripped out of sasuke's back during itatchis and sasukes fight?? its because he took orochimarus power, this also works the other way around
2. in stamina Me personally i think orochimaru would struggle to keep up WITHOUT respawn (revival)
3.Your thinking of danzo each sharingan gives you a minutes worth of time in izanagi (if im wrong show me some evidence) and if he planned it like konan planned his death consecutively he could stand a chance, she knew when to strike

 

[KidGamer65]

How could it be obito if at that time obito was still a kid and the "masked man" was a big man who had control over nine tails, time space AND mangyeku sharingan, we know that at this time he probably had lv2 lv3 bt even if he did have mangyeku sharingan at that time the nine tails was too much for him to handle at that time

1. ok fair point but how do you explain when he ripped out of sasuke's back during itatchis and sasukes fight?? its because he took orochimarus power, this also works the other way around
2. in stamina Me personally i think orochimaru would struggle to keep up WITHOUT respawn (revival)
3.Your thinking of danzo each sharingan gives you a minutes worth of time in izanagi (if im wrong show me some evidence) and if he planned it like konan planned his death consecutively he could stand a chance, she knew when to strike

The masked man who attacked Konoha had the same exact hair as Obito. He used Obito's Kamui, he had Zetsu parts to replace some of hisbody parts.
Obito already had MS by then as you see in the latest chapter, he was grown because he was most likely fused with Spiral Zetsu when he attacked, or he simply grew up.

1. It's because the real Orochimaru (body and soul) was inside of Sasuke's body since he had absorbed him prior to the fight, he was fighting for control unlike the chakra in the Cursed Seal which doesn't do anything unless you want it to, and Sasuke's chakra finished so he came out, though that has no significance in this scenario.
2. Stamina really isn't important since they both have adequate amounts of it.
3. Oops looks like i'm mistaken...Tobi's lasts for 5 mins.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

obito controlled kurama which is on a higher level of genjutsu than anything sasukes done and controlled yagura a perfect jin for years which is better than itachi

When Orochimaru uses the Edo Hokage they can't use their true power (Hiruzen fight)

yes they can. oro perfected the jutsu

 

[KidGamer65]

obito controlled kurama which is on a higher level of genjutsu than anything sasukes done and controlled yagura a perfect jin for years which is better than itachi


yes they can. oro perfected the jutsu

Then he must not have let them use their full power against Hiruzen then...cause there is no way Old Hiruzen can solo them.

 

[Simple Math]

obito

 

[Hyuuga Neji 188]

oro wins.

 

[Thoth]

Obito, high difficulty.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

cause there is no way Old Hiruzen can solo them.

and why not? he did so ergo he can

 

[KidGamer65]

and why not? he did so ergo he can

He soloed the Edo playing around with him.....not the alive Tobirama and Hashirama who use their full powers.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

re read the fight. oro said hiruzen was allowing them to toy with him and told him to hurry up and show his new jutsu. hiruzen tricked oro into stopping his attempts at killing him, using his love of jutsus, to prep death god

 

[blazekev90]

The fight would be quite interesting IMO, W/O Edo the fight would be beast as their techniques are very different, but the same in some aspects (Oro's attack prevention technique is similar to Tobi's ability).

Tobi has genjutsu but that doesnt kill an opponent, if anything the fight would be just conclude there. Oro could use poison or his unpredicable tactics for a POSSIBLE edge.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

What?? Obito's Genjutsu far surpasses Sasuke's and is probably on par with Itachi's...he was able to control a Perfect Jinchuuriki for an extended period of time.

When Orochimaru uses the Edo Hokage they can't use their true power (Hiruzen fight)

Obito can simply warp the Edos away..they can't even hit him.

Obito also has 10 min of Izanagi and his Katon jutsu.

In short Obito wins.

When was this stated?

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Obito wins Katon>Fuuton

 

[TheTailedSage]

When was this stated?

i already corrected him he can use it for 5 minutes konan states this

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Obito