Obito VS Nagato

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Nagato wins mid-high diff

If Obito were to try to Kamui Nagato, he then materializes leaving him vulnerable to attack. Shinra Tensei repels and deals a **** load of damage to him. So kamui is useless in terms of offence but it helps Him out on a defensive level. You would have to restrict summons.


Then he uses Izanagi with his 3-Tomoe eye and becomes invincible for 10 minutes, Nagato blocks a Kamui warp and has to wait for the 5 second cooldown, while Obito respawns immediately and warps Nagato during his cool down. Summons have absolutely no worth here.

GG Nagato. He loses mid difficulty.
 

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Then he uses Izanagi with his 3-Tomoe eye and becomes invincible for 10 minutes, Nagato blocks a Kamui warp and has to wait for the 5 second cooldown, while Obito respawns immediately and warps Nagato during his cool down. Summons have absolutely no worth here.

GG Nagato. He loses mid difficulty.
That 5 second cooldown is associated with Deva Path. We we pretty much conclude this the case with Nagato.
 

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The cooldown is considered a part of the Deva Path. Even Chibaku Tensei didn't have it but the Shinra Tensei. So it's more fact than conclusion.
We have ST is based on ones chakra, Pein having split Nagato's chakra channels could very well have effected its power and the lapse in performing the jutsu. For me, as it os the second most straining path ability, requiring heeps of chakra, lapse from performing frequently was the downfall of of having to constantly store chakra into Deva Path in order to pperform ST.
 

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Even when the Deva Path was the only one left, the interval was present. Nagato possessed huge Chakra levels, so there is no excuse why Deva should have an interval Nagato doesn't possess. The interval was associated with the Deva Path's power to attract and push objects. In any case, theories need equivalent prove, which is not given here.
 

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Even when the Deva Path was the only one left, the interval was present. Nagato possessed huge Chakra levels, so there is no excuse why Deva should have an interval Nagato doesn't possess. The interval was associated with the Deva Path's power to attract and push objects. In any case, theories need equivalent prove, which is not given here.
Konan commented on Nagato's chakra levels after using ultimate ST. So, anything after that, regardless of how many paths were standing, received less chakra.

I wouldn't say there wouldn't be an interval in regard to Nagato himself, but it wouldn't or shouldn't be 5seconds as with Deva Path.
 

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no it doesnt. it still requires physical touch to use

who said that


a common anti obito argument but consider this. who has exploited that so far?minato had to FTG away rather than simply owning obito then and there. only minato has so far had the reaction time to avoid obitos warping in a 1 vs 1
shinra tensei is instant,once obito grabs him,he breaks every bone in obito's body,or kills him outright.

Minato used ftg cuz he couldnt use anything else,all he had was a rasengan,summoning would take too long at that time,replace minato with nagato,and you have an ST killing obito there

not to mention the fact that the interval dosent apply to nagato,ad naruto claimed his jutsus were faster than pains by a long shot
 

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shinra tensei is instant,once obito grabs him,he breaks every bone in obito's body,
powerful ST use requires charge up time. the basic STs arent killing obito

not to mention the fact that the interval dosent apply to nagato,ad naruto claimed his jutsus were faster than pains by a long shot
no all he said was the jutsus themselves were stronger
 

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Nagato would win high diff.

The moment Obito try to wrap Nagato, he is physical leaving him vulnerable to physical attacks. Nagato can use Shinra Tensie to push him away. To also note to idiots who think the 5 seconds cooldown would mean Nagato loses, that's not the case as 5 seconds is too short and way too short for Obito to wrap Nagato.

Nagato > MS Obito.
Nagato > Rinnegan Obito.
Nagato < Rinnegan Obito with 6 Jinchuuriki.
Nagato < Juubito.
 

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The moment Obito try to wrap Nagato, he is physical leaving him vulnerable to physical attacks.
not that vulnerable. nagato hasnt been shown to eb as fast as minato who only barely reacted to being sucked in
that's not the case as 5 seconds is too short and way too short for Obito to wrap Nagato.
um obito fights at massively hypersonic given he kept up with bm naruto. 5 seconds is ages for him
 

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OT: Nagato can prevent a close range physical absorption with the Asura Path's extra limbs, Shinra tensei, and what not. It comes down to a battle of attrition for me. As Nagato won't be landing any worthwhile blows nor will Obito be taking him by Kamui *The main means of his offensive jutsu* without risking taking a blow.
 

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powerful ST use requires charge up time. the basic STs arent killing obito

no all he said was the jutsus themselves were stronger
it never says that he has to charge more. It just says he has a 5 sec count,not to mention his normal shinra tensei blew open a rock wall and broke the bones of a bijuu sized summon. That was from a weakened deva,a nagato's chinra tensei would be several times stronger.
 

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Please. Kid Obito with Mokuton had skills akin to mine in Call of Duty. That being said, not very much.

Don't make it sound as if Obito was the master of all of these techniques; he was just barely adequate with his Kamui at that point.
Kid Obito's mokuton killed numerous of jounin/anbu

Fact: Madara taught him Inyouton, rikudou Justu (six path Justu), and Uchiha kinjustu.

While only teaching Nagato rikudou Justu


Saying Obito is barely good at using kamui, is complete stupidity on your part.

It like saying itachi/Sasuke aren't good at using Amatersu

Ms Obito stomps, he has all of nagato's techniques including 4 others
 
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