Obito vs. Madara

[Demonic.]

*reverse facepalm* And..?



Lmao bad example dude. You went into specifics by saying "my intangibility", kabuto didn't go into specifics so I have no idea why you are, he simply named his jutsus. That's like kabuto saying: "With my edos at my side, & with my sage mode activated I'm invincible" . These are specifics of what the jutsu does, just like how intangibility is a specific function of kamui. Now if obito said that he's untouchable just by having kamui [the jutsu name & the name only] then he would be wrong for the same reason as kabuto, because he has been touched even tough he has access to his jutsu.

Do you get it now? Kabuto vaguely stated that just possessing edo tensei & SM makes him invincible, he didn't say anything about having those edos join him in battle or having his SM activated before the fight. So his statement is wrong, just having edos & SM doesn't make him invincible, just like how kamui doesn't make obito untouchable at all times.

Except that what you're saying makes no sense. If someone claims they're unbeatable with a technique in their disposal im pretty sure they dont mean that even if they dont use this technique, they'd be invincible like you're biasedly insinuating just to debunk Kabuto's statement.

He mentioned he is invincible with Edo tensei in his arsenal for a reason. if he hadn't mentioned edo tensei and said he was invincible you would have a point, but you don't.

 

[Draphsin]

Except that what you're saying makes no sense. If someone claims they're unbeatable with a technique in their disposal im pretty sure they dont mean that even if they dont use this technique, they'd be invincible like you're biasedly insinuating just to debunk Kabuto's statement.

There's no room for "I'm pretty sure" when looking at facts. Fact is that kabuto thought he was invincible due to possessing these two jutsus, that's it. For some reason you seem to think that kabuto was referring to having his edos fight along his side which isn't stated anywhere. His statement merely refers to possessing the army, nothing in the manga tells us that he needs the army with him to be considered invincible which is the nonsense that you're claiming.

He mentioned he is invincible with Edo tensei in his arsenal for a reason. if he hadn't mentioned edo tensei and id he was invincible you would have a point, but you don't.

Yeah, he said it because he was at war with the entire shinobi world, & nobody could even get to him let alone actually fight him when he has SM as a fail-safe. Edo tensei is his front line & SM is his lifeline just in case someone like itachi actually manages to track him down & pass those defenses.

He's "invincible" in his own eyes because he has control of an army & access to SM. Nowhere does it ever say that those edos need to be standing by his side for him to be considered invincible, that's just something you've fabricated in order to make kabuto sound more credible, but in all honesty this doesn't make him any more credible in the first place due to the constant ridiculous claims he's made.

 

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Except it does on the bottom right:

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If the manga states he can use all six path, then plain and simple he can use all six of them

posting the same BS again, is not helping when i have already told you that ur interpretation is not valid
the manga said nothing on obito at all, its in referrence to madara,
and its very likely that madara used the assigned jutsu the moment he awakened the rinnegan,

Obito =/= Madara for the thousandth time,

I don't care what you have to say, your pathetic bullsh*t excuse has no proof.
Until you get a scan...shut up

Except thhat my statements are common sense,
yet the scans ur bringing up, and the arguments you use completely contradict each other,,

What does this have to do with anything?
The manga STATED that he mastered the rinnegan
The manga also STATED that Obito was taught the techniques in regards to the rinnegan
I don't care if Hagoromoo>>>Obito, that is completely irrelevant.

Lol, being taught something dooesnt mean that u can use them,

Because Hagrormoo>>>>Nagato and he has better feats of show casing every six path technique than the sage himself.

See, you have no idea what you're posting about.

Just more garbage as usual, this is why i ignore your idiotic post

Lol, ur bringing the BS up, by comparing obito to hagoromo, which was why i felt the need to address the obvious to you,
ur dickriding has gone to a whole other level
and Lol at nagatos being shown better than hagoromo when the latter is the first and originial weilder of the eye unlike nagato

Limbo is not a six path justus, so let's get that out straight.

its still a rinnegan jutsu,

Madara absorption techinque isn't called preta either, in all the scans he did not call it preta at all

So no, Madara didn't use preta.

Lol, ur BS just keeps on getting ffunnier and funnier
Madaras absorption technique is exactly called preta, he doesnt need to call it preta to confirm it when it shows the exact same properties as nagatos preta

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only a retard would think that madaras absorption technique is not preta when they both share the exact same properties,,
just because madara never called it preta doesnt mean that its not preta,
sasuke and kakashi never called their susanoo PS, only madara did,
so that clearly doesnt mean that sasuke and kakashi dont have PS because thats wrong, but then again, you dont have the common sense to understand the obvious

Obito uses outer path too, so this is pointless.
Nagato has shown all feats of six relams, Obito and Madara has shown two.
You deny Obito can use all six, yet Madara who used just as many also gets granted to use all six because you say so...
shut f*ck up

No, Obito has not shown any 6 paths jutsus at all, thats ur wank and fanfic
i feel like i have to explain the same shit to you over and over again, and you come up with some completely irrelevant bull shit
Madara is granted all the six because its his own fkn eyes, and he can use themm to the full extent,
obito on the other hand DOES NOT have the feats of using the six paths, and cant use the rinnegan to the full extents either since hes not the original weilder of thhe eye

You don't dictate anything
You don't allow anything, I am the one who allows what is being used because of my proof.
Your say is worthless.

Nah,what you dictate is fanboyism, and its annnoying,
your interpretation of the manga only befits characters of ur interest therefore you try claiming that MS obito could use the six paths without the rinnegan itself, lmao
might as well give obito, the KA, FTG, Limbo, Sasukes S/T CT etc,

Read up on what Human path is:

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The mere fact that you think that human path could absorb chakra is why you need to read this:
if Human path really absorbed chakra,

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human path is soul removal thats all
preta path is chakra absorption,

You can't kill a juubi jinchuuriki, no matter what six path justus you use.
they're immortal, even Hagormoo can attest to that since he resorted to aiding his brother in sealing Kaguya and not Human path.

Lol this same BS,

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meaning that regardless of his juubi jin state he would died, had guy been able to maintain his 8th gate for longer periods
ur claim again is debunked and the rest of ur crap is not even worth replying

My god you are so stupid, get the f*ck out of this thread

Says you, the joke of the base Lol No

People who are smart actually know how to spell the word "realizing," something an idiot like yourself wouldn't have the knowledge to do.

i still have more common sense than you, and i know how to interpret the manga unlike you,,
i dont need to spell word to word,, since this isnt some thesis, its the internet,
and Lol at the example you gave, where i am from its spelled ''realise'' so deal with it,

Another idiot that comes to taint a thread that is specifically about Obito.
You are so f*cking dense, it is unbelievable how dumb you truely are...
A five year old has better comprehension skills than you, my ten year old brother can type/speak on a better capacity than you.

Lol where have i tainted a thread about obito???,
its because of faptards like you that all the obito threads become a joke,
and its also funny how you bring up reading comprehension yet you are the one who lacks the common sense that one needs the rinnegan to use its jutsus,

Judging from this grammar, spelling, and reasoning....
Yes indeed, I'm miles ahead of you that it's not even funny.
You can't even come up with a proper retort :|

Lol no, you are not,
ur just another fapboy, who everyone tries to ignore, and has become so unbearable with the same BS in every dammn thread that even i felt that it was obligatory for me to prove you wrong,
ask anyone here,, and they would pick me over your pathetic ass

Just like the flaws of Madara using Susanoo without MS:

Rinnegan =/= MS so ur entire claim here is invalid,,

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Madara using the six path absorption with no rinnegan:

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where is the indication that madaras chakra stealing is assoscaited with his rinnegan??
ohh wait its not, so again you are wrong

Yet Obito using the Outer path geo mazou without the rinnegan either:

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ive already debunked this claim,
mazo is different from the rinnegan,
you need the senju/uchiha dna to use it, which obito still possessed
however to summon it, you need the rinnegan,
using =/= summoning

Yep, you sure know what "logic," means...

yeah i know more than you,
ur sorry ass needs to learn some logic,,

Except that he is:

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The manga states this, now where is the scan of Madara actually using all six?
The manga states that Obito was given everything:

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Manga stated that he taught Obito all six paths:

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Lol, learning is not equivalent to doing,
obito may have been taught the jutsus but that doesnt mean that he can use all of them
obito has no feats of using it, why is that so hard for you to understand

and ive already debunked ur claim of madaras , but then you obviously wont be able to understand nor admit that you are wrong

And you deny that as well.
So since the manga stated that Madara can use all six and that he taught Obito how to use all six, that means he both can't use all six of the techniques because both of them hasn't showcase all of them.

you cant use the rinnegan jutsus without the rinnegan,
ive addressed this same shit again,
and you are just repeating ur minimal points again and again, its pathetic

Again with the stupid, he doesn't last minutes against Obito
My favorites consist of four different other people, yet your to stupid to know that.
You just skimm through where I state Obito, then jack off more bullsh*t "wank this" and "wank that," all over post that specifically ask of Obito's capabilities.

Lol i dont give a damn about ur favorites,
and its just funny how you randomlly assume that i wank hashirama,, because you have nothing else to say,
and instead of being logical and stating how he loses despite having intel,
you just say ''he doesnt last minutes'' Lol, thats what we call a shit debater

Laughable at best, even during my preliminary years I would out rank you silly.
Too stupid and inexperience, my intellect is way out of question that you don't even pale in comparison.
Truely laughable at best...

Lets ask the majority, here on who is better,
i am sure that 90% or more of the users would side with me,
every logical debater here is sick of ur obito wank

See the irony?
I don't start insults, I finish them...
You were the one who replied e with insults, I ignore most of your post because your just a raging baboon that found a computer.
You shouldn't of replied me in the first place you idiot...

Lol ur the one whos ironic,
i never insult anyone here but you just call for it,
im not ragiing either, im as calm as can be, yet ur the one who's lost his head due to me disagreeing with ur pathetic wank
and its also funny how you take all the statements here to a personal level, and instead of sticking on topic, you are proud to claim that you only 'insult'

Ask half the senior members over 2011-2012 and they will pick me over you.
Just because you acquired friends who support you, doesn't mean you amount to anything when you spread garbage throughout the thread.
I'm too logical and too smart for you that it is blankly obvious in most viewers eyes.

Lol this is sig worthy,
i have barely acquired any friends here, ask the logical members then,
i havent posted any garbage either,
and you being too logical is sig worthy, since a logical person wont claim that one could use rinnegan jutsus without the eye,, nor would he bring fanboyism to a whole other level,,
a logical person judges the outcome of a battle objectively, and you clearly lack the tendency to do such a thing

Many would deny it because you are their friend of some sort, so I really don't care.

Ask someone whos neutral then, its not that hard,

The bolded part was never shown or stated in the manga, so your wrong again
Read above

Ive already debunked all ur crappy posts

The manga says he can use all six, so my stupid claim is what co-exist with the manga.
Like I said before, Madara has only shown two paths like Obito did.
So why do you have a hard time learning how to read?
You don't use two paths and can't use the other for explainable reasons.

Ive debunked this same shit above as well,
stop sayiing the same BS everytime its annoying,
@Bold - if the rinnegan is not urs or if you havnt mastered it (obito), or if the rinnegan is fake (edo madara) then that is cerrtainly the case

And Obito can use them because the rinnegan is Madara's eyes and it also stated that he can use them.

This is sig worthy,,
we cant give madaras rinnegan feats to obito and nagato since the rinnegans full potential comes towards its original owner which obito and nagato are not

English at its finest

Not one word uttered made a lick of sense on this thread, so just get out now.

Well done man,
so when you cant counter something you just bring the excuse of claiming that the english is bad, Lol

Naruto's kcm cloak is life energy you moron:

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Lol this is sig worthy,,
KCM cloak is chakra you dumbass, anyone with some common sense can understand this
heck even in the name ''kyuubi chakra mode'' any moron or a donkey could tell,
and u bringing the scan of god tree sucking chakra is just funny and completely irrelevant

I should sig this.....

Lol chakra =/= soul iits common sense
theres nothing wrong with that

Really tempted to sig this right now

Lol you would be the joke for thinkinng that human path can absorb chakra Lmao

My good you are stupid, I've posted about five of them
Why don't you keep your horsh*t away from people who want to be educated, you have no proof or a single scan to back up this foul assumption of yours.

You are the moron posting the same thing over and over again,
@Bold - this is the base, its not some scholarly website,
i have provided scans to prove ur sorry ass wrong,,
you already have no credibility here, but i thought that you would be able to grasp common sense, however i was clearly wrong,

i am not the one with the assumptions here, you are

 

[Demonic.]

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posting the same BS again, is not helping when i have already told you that ur interpretation is not valid
the manga said nothing on obito at all, its in referrence to madara,
and its very likely that madara used the assigned jutsu the moment he awakened the rinnegan,

Obito =/= Madara for the thousandth time,


Except thhat my statements are common sense,
yet the scans ur bringing up, and the arguments you use completely contradict each other,,



Lol, being taught something dooesnt mean that u can use them,


Lol, ur bringing the BS up, by comparing obito to hagoromo, which was why i felt the need to address the obvious to you,
ur dickriding has gone to a whole other level
and Lol at nagatos being shown better than hagoromo when the latter is the first and originial weilder of the eye unlike nagato



its still a rinnegan jutsu,


Lol, ur BS just keeps on getting ffunnier and funnier
Madaras absorption technique is exactly called preta, he doesnt need to call it preta to confirm it when it shows the exact same properties as nagatos preta

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and this is

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only a retard would think that madaras absorption technique is not preta when they both share the exact same properties,,
just because madara never called it preta doesnt mean that its not preta,
sasuke and kakashi never called their susanoo PS, only madara did,
so that clearly doesnt mean that sasuke and kakashi dont have PS because thats wrong, but then again, you dont have the common sense to understand the obvious


No, Obito has not shown any 6 paths jutsus at all, thats ur wank and fanfic
i feel like i have to explain the same shit to you over and over again, and you come up with some completely irrelevant bull shit
Madara is granted all the six because its his own fkn eyes, and he can use themm to the full extent,
obito on the other hand DOES NOT have the feats of using the six paths, and cant use the rinnegan to the full extents either since hes not the original weilder of thhe eye

You don't dictate anything
You don't allow anything, I am the one who allows what is being used because of my proof.
Your say is worthless.[/QUOET]
Nah,what you dictate is fanboyism, and its annnoying,
your interpretation of the manga only befits characters of ur interest therefore you try claiming that MS obito could use the six paths without the rinnegan itself, lmao
might as well give obito, the KA, FTG, Limbo, Sasukes S/T CT etc,


The mere fact that you think that human path could absorb chakra is why you need to read this:
if Human path really absorbed chakra,

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human path is soul removal thats all
preta path is chakra absorption,


Lol this same BS,

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meaning that regardless of his juubi jin state he would died, had guy been able to maintain his 8th gate for longer periods
ur claim again is debunked and the rest of ur crap is not even worth replying


Says you, the joke of the base Lol No


i still have more common sense than you, and i know how to interpret the manga unlike you,,
i dont need to spell word to word,, since this isnt some thesis, its the internet,
and Lol at the example you gave, where i am from its spelled ''realise'' so deal with it,


Lol where have i tainted a thread about obito???,
its because of faptards like you that all the obito threads become a joke,
and its also funny how you bring up reading comprehension yet you are the one who lacks the common sense that one needs the rinnegan to use its jutsus,


Lol no, you are not,
ur just another fapboy, who everyone tries to ignore, and has become so unbearable with the same BS in every dammn thread that even i felt that it was obligatory for me to prove you wrong,
ask anyone here,, and they would pick me over your pathetic ass


Rinnegan =/= MS so ur entire claim here is invalid,,


where is the indication that madaras chakra stealing is assoscaited with his rinnegan??
ohh wait its not, so again you are wrong


ive already debunked this claim,
mazo is different from the rinnegan,
you need the senju/uchiha dna to use it, which obito still possessed
however to summon it, you need the rinnegan,
using =/= summoning


yeah i know more than you,
ur sorry ass needs to learn some logic,,


Lol, learning is not equivalent to doing,
obito may have been taught the jutsus but that doesnt mean that he can use all of them
obito has no feats of using it, why is that so hard for you to understand

and ive already debunked ur claim of madaras , but then you obviously wont be able to understand nor admit that you are wrong


you cant use the rinnegan jutsus without the rinnegan,
ive addressed this same shit again,
and you are just repeating ur minimal points again and again, its pathetic


Lol i dont give a damn about ur favorites,
and its just funny how you randomlly assume that i wank hashirama,, because you have nothing else to say,
and instead of being logical and stating how he loses despite having intel,
you just say ''he doesnt last minutes'' Lol, thats what we call a shit debater


Lets ask the majority, here on who is better,
i am sure that 90% or more of the users would side with me,
every logical debater here is sick of ur obito wank


Lol ur the one whos ironic,
i never insult anyone here but you just call for it,
im not ragiing either, im as calm as can be, yet ur the one who's lost his head due to me disagreeing with ur pathetic wank
and its also funny how you take all the statements here to a personal level, and instead of sticking on topic, you are proud to claim that you only 'insult'



Lol this is sig worthy,
i have barely acquired any friends here, ask the logical members then,
i havent posted any garbage either,
and you being too logical is sig worthy, since a logical person wont claim that one could use rinnegan jutsus without the eye,, nor would he bring fanboyism to a whole other level,,
a logical person judges the outcome of a battle objectively, and you clearly lack the tendency to do such a thing


Ask someone whos neutral then, its not that hard,


Ive already debunked all ur crappy posts


Ive debunked this same shit above as well,
stop sayiing the same BS everytime its annoying,
@Bold - if the rinnegan is not urs or if you havnt mastered it (obito), or if the rinnegan is fake (edo madara) then that is cerrtainly the case


This is sig worthy,,
we cant give madaras rinnegan feats to obito and nagato since the rinnegans full potential comes towards its original owner which obito and nagato are not



Well done man,
so when you cant counter something you just bring the excuse of claiming that the english is bad, Lol



Lol this is sig worthy,,
KCM cloak is chakra you dumbass, anyone with some common sense can understand this
heck even in the name ''kyuubi chakra mode'' any moron or a donkey could tell,
and u bringing the scan of god tree sucking chakra is just funny and completely irrelevant



Lol chakra =/= soul iits common sense
theres nothing wrong with that



Lol you would be the joke for thinkinng that human path can absorb chakra Lmao


You are the moron posting the same thing over and over again,
@Bold - this is the base, its not some scholarly website,
i have provided scans to prove ur sorry ass wrong,,
you already have no credibility here, but i thought that you would be able to grasp common sense, however i was clearly wrong,

i am not the one with the assumptions here, you are

Lol good read

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There's no room for "I'm pretty sure" when looking at facts. Fact is that kabuto thought he was invincible due to possessing these two jutsus, that's it. For some reason you seem to think that kabuto was referring to having his edos fight along his side which isn't stated anywhere. His statement merely refers to possessing the army, nothing in the manga tells us that he needs the army with him to be considered invincible which is the nonsense that you're claiming.



Yeah, he said it because he was at war with the entire shinobi world, & nobody could even get to him let alone actually fight him when he has SM as a fail-safe. Edo tensei is his front line & SM is his lifeline just in case someone like itachi actually manages to track him down & pass those defenses.

He's "invincible" in his own eyes because he has control of an army & access to SM. Nowhere does it ever say that those edos need to be standing by his side for him to be considered invincible, that's just something you've fabricated in order to make kabuto sound more credible, but in all honesty this doesn't make him any more credible in the first place due to the constant ridiculous claims he's made.

lol, if you think Kabuto meant he's invincible simply by having access to his Edo army, but not using them in a fight then that's just hilarious. The army is just for comfort then? it makes him feel invincible just knowing that he can call them whenever he wants? Lmao please.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Madara wins without too much difficulty. Madara IS a sensor, Madara has the Sharingan to tell when Obito is switching in and out if the dimensions. He has the reaction speed to hit him the second before Obito touches him with a Susanoo hand spawn. Madara can also makes clones, which Obito can't afford to use Kamui on. Kurama is not needed (Granted he won't make much of a difference here) and neither is PS (granted it won't make much of a difference here either). Madara casually wins this with the superior arsenal and amount of counters to Kamui.

 

[Draphsin]

lol, if you think Kabuto meant he's invincible simply by having access to his Edo army, but not using them in a fight then that's just hilarious. The army is just for comfort then? it makes him feel invincible just knowing that he can call them whenever he wants? Lmao please.

Lol Well that's what the manga tells us, anything else that you may believe is just fanfiction.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Against VOTE Madara, I'd say Obito wins. VOTE Madara is pretty much like BM Naruto in that both of them have powerful attacks, but straight forward. That's the worst type against Obito. He wins against VOTE Madara, but looses to edo Madara since he can attack from any direction and surprise Obito(wood style).