Obito vs Hashirama
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Yeah, I was talking about his intangibility.
Hashirama uses Mokujin to destroy Obito while he's busy lighting up FTW, seeing as he can't phase through attacks while using jutsu.
Eh? How's the Sharingan going to help him react to FTW?
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]. Katon isn't going to work against any Mokuton constructs. Obito using a Katon of that scale would just be a waste of chakra seeing as the Mokuton wouldn't cover a Juubi-sized area anyway. If Obito decides to warp out he'd inhale the pollen. Bijuudama are caught by Mokujin and I don't think the Bijuu have used acid/lava to that scale. Doesn't matter, Hashirama could just make more Mokuton constructs, chakra isn't an issue for him, and Shinsuusenju would pummel all the Bijuu to the ground anyway, or like I've said before, he uses Myoujinmon to keep them incapacitated. They'd be out of the fight very early on.He's used a maximum of 11 gates IIRC, maybe 12 [
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Well that really changes nothing.
Lol As I said that doesn't matter, obito has acid, lava, & bijuudamas to attack while he is intangible, then he simply uses katon from a significant distance. Unless you can show me hashirama's mokuton extend to juubi levels [aside from shinsuusenju obviously] then obito can easily teleport far enough away to use his katon without worrying.
And Ill mention it again, chomei flies so that automatically makes all of hashi's mokuton a non-factor anyways.
He sees the jutsu before it activates due to slight precognition.
The katon was burning the mokuton if you didn't notice, & you're using a significantly smaller scale of katon.
The fact that the katon clearly burned the mokuton proves your statement wrong [even though I never once mentioned katon as a way to deal with all of hashi's mokuton, merely FTW]. Obito's juubi-sized katon from a distance will be enough to render FTW useless by clearing the immediate area, which was my point.
& If you still want to deny that then yoton & acid melt the mokuton while bijuudamas obliterate it altogether.
Even worse for the mokuton then. Wood burns, so the more fire there is the more it will burn, if the mokuton isn't juubi sized but the katon is then tell me how you think that makes it useless? That logic makes no sense.
No he won't, he goes intangible & phases through the ground. Then he appears in an area that is nowhere near the pollen, & finally he is free to warp or do wherever he chooses.
How many mokujins has hashi created? Only one, so how many can he prodoce? Only one, how many bijuu does obito have? At least five, so I have no idea how you could possibly think that mokujin is going to catch every single bijuudama being shot it's way, I'm sorry but "Mokujin catches bijuudamas" isn't a solid argument.
As for acid & lava, they're just alternate ways that obito can get rid of some mokuton while preventing himself from entering any danger or preventing any of the bijuu from getting caught. The scale doesnt matter the point is that the jins with their abilities are going to give hashi's mokuton a hard time, thus giving hashi himself a hard time. All that leads to the final kamui warp that hashirama will never know coming due to his severe lack of info.
Stop using this argument, all you did was name a bunch of hashi's jutsus & state things that aren't even true. Show me hashi creating enough mokuton constructs to deal with 5 bijuu simultaneously, that means he needs a mokujin & a mokuton dragon for each at least.
Shinsuusenju isn't coming out before obito warps hashi from behind. & If hashi pulls out shinsuusenju then he leaves himself wide open for a warp anyways. You just say "Shinsuusenju would pummel all the Bijuu to the ground" which is just as bad as saying "totsuka GG" This isn't an argument as it has no basis, I already explained to you that chomei can fly yet you're still posting stuff like this, should I even take you seriously with this kind of response?
& As I said before bijuu change their sizes instantly so myoujinmon gates aren't doing anything, besides while hashi deals with the bijuu he's going to be getting warped away anyways [which takes less than a second & was even able to nearly catch the fastest ninja alive if not for the fastest jutsu in history].
He needed SM for that, hashi gets warped before he gets the chance to enter SM. Hashi can't simultaneously prep SM & deal with the bijuu, & as for the different sizes, the gates that pin the bijuu are already a fixed size, once the gates fall the bijuu just revert to V2 modes & slip away. The gates don't change size, hashi needs to summon new ones, so while hashi is busy trying to catch the bijuu with the right sized gates [which doesn't restrict them from using bijuudamas either] obito will be warping behind hashi to send him away.
These aren't arguments, I might as well say.
Chomei obliterates all of hashi's mokuton
Kamui warps hashi away
Preta seals his soul
Chakra rods GG
It takes more then just saying a jutsu name & what it does to prove that is has any effect.
Without manga knowledge, Hashirama doesn't possess the ability to avoid a surprise kamui. He's a sensor in sage mode only, if I am not mistaken. Compare this to Minato who is a sensor in base, greater reactions/reflexes, and FTG. Even with these things, kamui was able to get him off guard. He only escaped the warp due to FTG.
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Obito can. He uses Kamui to change the properties of the fire and make them huge if I remember correctly.
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Ah; Another one. This should be good.
Obito warps behing Hashirama while he's distracted by the bijuu, warps him, laughs.
Obito warps behing Hashirama while he's distracted by the bijuu, warps him, laughs.
Hashirama wins this
-Once he goes SM,, he would have the reflexes and reaction feats to evade the kamui warp,,, as shown how Madara was able to gain reflexes that helped him evade FTG,, which is faster than Kamui,,,, Madara was able to do that after gaining hashirammas SM,,so Hashirama would obviously have the same abilities,,,
-Through the aid of Mokuton KB,, Hashirama would have the adequate diversions,, to disrupt Obitos kamui based moveset,,, annd would allow one of the diversions to attack Obito, once he solidifies to warp one of the KB (which he wont be able to decipher from the real)
-Hashiramas Flower Tree World can bypass the 5 minute limit of Obitos Kamui,, as he has no real counters to it,, since he lacks the firepower in his MS form to destroy the pollen,,, His Katons would simply enhance the affects of the pollen as Madara did so as well against the 5 kage,,,,,
-With Kamui being countered and reflexes in SM that can even aid him in dodging something as fast as FTG,, Obitos lol kamui warp is not happening,,,,
-Hashiramas SS is far too durable and has the offense to knock down the bijuu completely,,,, his mokuton based techniques are also a nightmare for the bijuu as it will subdue their chakra,,, and put them to sleep,,
CK and Gates can also be used to deflect the TBB right back at the bijuu,, but seeing that CK alone tanked 11 PS infused TBB,, i can see that alone tanking most of the attacks,,,
-Once he goes SM,, he would have the reflexes and reaction feats to evade the kamui warp,,, as shown how Madara was able to gain reflexes that helped him evade FTG,, which is faster than Kamui,,,, Madara was able to do that after gaining hashirammas SM,,so Hashirama would obviously have the same abilities,,,
-Through the aid of Mokuton KB,, Hashirama would have the adequate diversions,, to disrupt Obitos kamui based moveset,,, annd would allow one of the diversions to attack Obito, once he solidifies to warp one of the KB (which he wont be able to decipher from the real)
-Hashiramas Flower Tree World can bypass the 5 minute limit of Obitos Kamui,, as he has no real counters to it,, since he lacks the firepower in his MS form to destroy the pollen,,, His Katons would simply enhance the affects of the pollen as Madara did so as well against the 5 kage,,,,,
-With Kamui being countered and reflexes in SM that can even aid him in dodging something as fast as FTG,, Obitos lol kamui warp is not happening,,,,
-Hashiramas SS is far too durable and has the offense to knock down the bijuu completely,,,, his mokuton based techniques are also a nightmare for the bijuu as it will subdue their chakra,,, and put them to sleep,,
CK and Gates can also be used to deflect the TBB right back at the bijuu,, but seeing that CK alone tanked 11 PS infused TBB,, i can see that alone tanking most of the attacks,,,