Obito Uchiha is the definition of a shinobi who didn't work for anything he got!!!!

[lilshell43]

Oh shit! Then all jutsus in Naruto must be down to magical plot no jutsu!

Nope. lol

 

[-S-]

Nope. lol

Don't make assumptions about Obito then.

 

[DimLord Urza]

Sorry, but who was the person that
attained power by Orochimaru via curse seal?
acquired Susanoo via his brother's eyes?
acquired amaterasu via his brother's eyes?
was saved time and time again by other people and then betrayed them?
is a total prick and douchebag?

Sasuke Uchiha.

 

[Turson]

Sorry, but who was the person that
attained power by Orochimaru via curse seal?
acquired Susanoo via his brother's eyes?
acquired amaterasu via his brother's eyes?
was saved time and time again by other people and then betrayed them?
is a total prick and douchebag?

Still, he trained much more for his power than Obito.

 

[Blaze Release]

There is a misconception that uchiha's are strong only because of their uchiha lineage, however everything in the manga disagrees. When sasuke has graduated from the academy top of his class and was said to be a genius before he awakened the sharigan there is nothing to argue about. Similarly itachi was noted to be a genius before he awakened the sharingan and his academy teacher praised him as a quality student that hasnt been seen in the academy ever since. Its manga fact that these two were geniuses before the awake the sharingan. Obito however wasnt and he relied on his uchiha lineage to the extent that he told kakashi as soon as he awoke the sharingan he would be stronger than him, or something like that. However obito under the influence of madara learnt some very powerful techniques. Its no doubt that his sharingan ability helped him out however even with the sharingan, it would take time to learn these techniques.

Nagato on the other hand no comment. Take his eyes and udon would fodderise him xd. Jk, even nagato without the rinnegan had massive chakra reserves which was powerful, possibly rivalry an uchiha's chakra potency.

 

[lilshell43]

And lol at him doing eye surgery. If Rin can do it at her age, it ain't hard to me.

 

[peteriscoo]

sorry kishi didn't spend a month of the manga on obito training with madara. it was kinda supposed to be implied in this weeks chapter. either way, he didn't magically become a skilled ninja out of nowhere

 

[lilshell43]

sorry kishi didn't spend a month of the manga on obito training with madara. it was kinda supposed to be implied in this weeks chapter. either way, he didn't magically become a skilled ninja out of nowhere

Did you not just see him kill all the Mist Ninjas?

 

[BlackBison]

Obito is a spoiled ninja to me.

Naruto trained to learn the rasengan and perfected it, He also learned Sage Mode and Bijuu Mode.

Sasuke learned the chidori from Kakashi and made it better. He also learned Karin, Hawk Summoning, and got up to EMS. He had top grades in the ninja academy so learning was easier for him.

Kakashi, Minato, Itachi, Orochimaru were geniuses, nuff said.

I could keep goin. But what did Obito work for? Kakashi practically unlocked the Mangekyou for him.

You do know obito nearly died and that half of his body is like that so he could survive.

Not really. I would say that Nagato is the one. All his techniques come from Rinnengan, a Rinnengan that he didn't even possessed from the start, something that Madara gave him. Obito still had his Sharingan techniques that he developped himself, plus katon or doton ninjutsus

Exactly, all nagato techs come from a rinnegan that isn't even his if it wasn't for madara he wouldn't even be top 50.

''Sharingan is just another shinobi tool, a tool is only as powerful as the shinobi who uses it'' -Black Zetsu

^^^This says it all. Sharingan is his clan abilities and then black zetsu says it all.

 

[Animaeon]

Almost everyone has at least something that they didn't work hard for. Naruto has a tailed best that gives him a power boost, Sasuke had Oro's curse mark and EMS given to him by Obito using Itachi's eyes, Nagato got his Rinnegan from Madara and Kakashi got a sharingan from his best friend, that turns out to be one hell of a MS as well. But you would agree with me that these four still had to train for the things they're capable of today, even if they had a huge advantage. So why not Obito?

I would say you're somewhat correct. At least half of what Obito is capable of is thanks to Madara, such as his abilities with Senju DNA (Izanagi, regrowing limps) and a huge amount of knowledge of the NarutoVerse's history, however I don't think I have to explain what is also wrong about your reasoning. The things he knows and is capable of doing today didn't just 'happen', he had to train and learn how to use them skillfully as well. But what you're saying is that if you didn't see them training, they probably must not have worked hard.

 

[Ōkami]

''Sharingan is just another shinobi tool, a tool is only as powerful as the shinobi who uses it'' -Black Zetsu

you made that up what he actually said was

"An expert with a pebble can still beat a novice with a shuriken."

 

[lilshell43]

Nagato was gifted with a rinnegan from Madara. But what makes Nagato so strong is from all the "Pain" he has gone through. His pain is also what makes him op. He still has a huge chakra supply and the only capable one of controlling the Gedo Mazo.

 

[lilshell43]

Nagato is best Rinnegan user out of the 3 anyway. He's most experienced with it.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Lol, all you really need is Senju DNA for Izanagi. No big deal.

It's still something impressive, considering the fact that it's considered a kinjutsu(forbidden technique).

Besides, who else is able to control the Kyubi and the Yondaime Mizukage with just base sharingan? No Uchiha is seen to show such a feat, even Madara and Itachi who are both considered proficient in using the sharingan have not shown this. He even learnt how to use the Rinnegan and to control his summon; the Gedo Mazou.

So your thread is pretty much pointless. I mean that's like me saying "Sasuke is shit at using sharingan because he can't use certain jutsu's properly such as Tsukyomi and doesn't have Rinnegan or Izanagi?" You see how pointless that is, when someone could just retaliate and say, "Sasuke is skilled in using Amaterasu and other jutsu though such as Kenjutsu and Taijutsu as well as great control of Susano." You need to realize that every Uchiha is unique and excellent in what abilities and qualities that they have.

PS: Madara manipulated the Kyubi with EMS. It wasn't even at a MS stage never mind to a base 3-tomoe sharingan like Obito.

 

[shelke]

This forum is extremely biased towards the uchihas, yet the manga proves how proficient, and intelligent ninjas all of them are. Itachi was a prodigy who was praised by everyone, Sasuke was called a genius on several occasions, Madara was at a whole different level who pretty much paved the way for the rest to follow given his mastery over techniques, and Obito at first seemed quite goofy. When he got serious after Rin's death, you can see his determination and will. He was a person who needed guidance and he got it from Madara. Look at him now.

This debate here is pointless. Why only pick on the uhciha clan for this? When going by this logic, all blood line abilities are 'handed to people on a silver platter'. And let's not forget that only the Bijuu are the actual silver spoons here.

 

[peteriscoo]

Did you not just see him kill all the Mist Ninjas?

Yeah that part was really cool, Im just saying that if Kishi wanted to troll us he could have expanded the training obito did with madara and spent at least a month, but instead he summarized it into just a few panels and thats why it seems like he didnt train very hard.

Remember all that rehab training he did to learn how to use the half of his body that got crushed. Before he tried to save rin he learned determination, perseverance, and more lessons similar to what naruto was doing with the rasengan. You shouldnt think his power was given to him. the manga has showed that he really worked for it, i think he earned his strength.

 

[Orochimagus]

Oh my god...Do you read the manga? Obito is the one that unlocked the Sharingan when he witnessed Kakashi killing Rin. Kakashi did not evolve it and he was knocked out during the process.

Do you also forget the training we see Obito do by himself, and later with the Zetsu?

TobiZetsu marvelled at how well Obito had mastered Wood Release in such a short time. Hashirama's power is not easy to control as Obito said when Danzo was being taken over. Read.

 

[Microsword57]

Uchiha in genral get their abilities handed to them on a silver platter by Kishi. They don't train for their eye techniques but just have to unlock them.

I Get where your coming from consider to get EMS you implant someone else's eyes and Madara's brother literally handed his eyes to Madara, but they do have to train for control over their Eye techniques. They usually get better through battle sorta like Super Saiyans if you ever watched DBZ. I mean Sasuke vs Killer B was the perfect example of an Uchiha who did not know how to use his Mangekyou and thought just like the fans, that as soon as he got the Mangekyou he would be a better Ninja. Killer B gave Sasuke a real thrashing in the battle and I think that was Kishimoto's way of showing the audience that even if the method of obtaining Sharingan techniques seems simple, they still need to practice their control and usage of their Eyes.

 

[thegame]

Just proves what a half clone from hashirama will do to a person. Even if it is so much weaker than hashi as madara said, yet it made obito so strong

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

who gives a shit? the fact hes shown so much skill is proof he worked to master it all. we SAW him train to get used to being half-hashirama.