obito the nerfed shinobi

[Lamb]

Kid sasuke had much more screen time thsn kid obito. Is kid sasuke better than kid madara? We dont know didnt see enough of him. Kakashi was not exhausted he was just getting beat up brutally so.

Kid Madara has reputation and he had constantly fought the strongest shinobis out there. Kid Obito was a dropout and he had no talent. He beat up Kakashi who was exhausted and injured, Kakashi didn't get refill until Kurama switched with Naruto and swinged Kakashi to an incoming Obito.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

This will be my last reply to you fodder.

VIZ translation confirms Madara was not at full power due to the fact he lacked possession of his eyes. Its proven the moment he got his Rinnegan, he finished off the 9 Bijuu quickly, while blind, he was being damaged. I have shown scans of Obito being able to heal through Hashirama's cells while he had enough Chakra. Kakashi was in fact even worse state.

:bye:

Your logic is heavily flawed. Madara didnt have his full because he didnt have his eyes? If you have a bank account with a million dollars but you dont know the code to it then guess what...? YOU DONT HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS doesnt matter if the eyes are his they were not in his possession. Kakashi got full healed by sakura and power boosted by naruto meanwhile obito was exhausted fair fight? No.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Kid Madara has reputation and he had constantly fought the strongest shinobis out there. Kid Obito was a dropout and he had no talent. He beat up Kakashi who was exhausted and injured, Kakashi didn't get refill until Kurama switched with Naruto and swinged Kakashi to an incoming Obito.

So what? Kid obito KILLED a jonin and went toe to toe with another elite jonin with a two tomoe alongside kakash eith a two tomoe. Meanwhile kid sasuke is getting beat up by lee. I like how you keep calling obito a dropout yet he became a chuunin on the FIRST TRY unlike saduke.

 

[ANiMUS]

So what? Kid obito KILLED a jonin and went toe to toe with another elite jonin with a two tomoe alongside kakash eith a two tomoe. Meanwhile kid sasuke is getting beat up by lee. I like how you keep calling obito a dropout yet he became a chuunin on the FIRST TRY unlike saduke.

Kid Sasuke fought Haku evenly when he gained his sharingan and only lost bcuz he saved Naruto. Sasuke even got to a level where he could fight a jinchuuriki (Gaara) and awakened 3T as a child in which state he pwnd chakra cloak Naruto. After CM Sasuke had surpassed kid Obito and possibly kid Madara.

 

[AGoodBoy]

- Kamui was a plot device from the start to make him the classic 'haxxxed villain'. If he had both eyes, kishi would just find another way around kamui.

- What boss mokuton techs? He's only ever used branches from an arm and that one spiralling mokuton thing against those ninja's against riin and that's because he lost control.

- What does the mask have to do with his katon?

- He only broke that boulder because he borrowed power from the gedo masu statue. He can't do that normally.

- He's never ever shown epic taijutsu or kenjutsu skills. In fact, from the start he's been shown to be bad at it. Losing to guy? Losing to kakashi? Kamui's throw everything and just grabs? His taijutsu skills have always been subpar.

- Well, being able to teleport anywhere doesn't mean he can actually handle fighting bijuu. All he has is kamui and when he kamui's someone he drops them in a genjutsu. That wouldn't really work on a jin so he'd just be risking his life and now have a jin in kamui dimension that would 1 shot him anytime he went in there again.

- Nagato had rinnegan for years before he learnt to use it. Madara had rinnegan for years. Obito's supposed to master it just because? He doesn't even have both eyes.

- Madara has better control over the gedo statue than obito obviously. The guy unlocked the eyes himself. Summoned the gedo himself. Figured out how to make zetsu himself. Clearly the guy's a genius and had nothing but time to figure out rinnegan techs in his cave. Probably trying to figure out one that'd extend his life. Clearly obito can't do everything madara can; Even madara's gedo chains look different.

 

[Lamb]

So what? Kid obito KILLED a jonin and went toe to toe with another elite jonin with a two tomoe alongside kakash eith a two tomoe. Meanwhile kid sasuke is getting beat up by lee. I like how you keep calling obito a dropout yet he became a chuunin on the FIRST TRY unlike saduke.

Kid Sasuke would have beat x10 the same fodder. Look back to his fight against Oro at the forest of death and see how impressive he was. Obito got eliminated on the chunin exam after losing to Gai. He didn't became chunin until some years later after taking another test.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Kid Sasuke would have beat x10 the same fodder. Look back to his fight against Oro at the forest of death and see how impressive he was. Obito got eliminated on the chunin exam after losing to Gai. He didn't became chunin until some years later after taking another test.

Sasuke vs oro wasnt impressive because oro was holdimg back so much it hurts the guy could fodderize kakashi. Doesnt matter if he got out in the tourny he PASSED the chuunin exam THAT YEAR you dont have to win your fight to get in kakashi was immediatly a jonin afyer the exams so no obito did not take it again. Doesnt matter what you think kid sasuke would do he got owned by lee didnt even get a chance to attack. The only reason obito lost was because he choked on candy before turning guy into barbeque.

 

[Lamb]

Sasuke vs oro wasnt impressive because oro was holdimg back so much it hurts the guy could fodderize kakashi. Doesnt matter if he got out in the tourny he PASSED the chuunin exam THAT YEAR you dont have to win your fight to get in kakashi was immediatly a jonin afyer the exams so no obito did not take it again. Doesnt matter what you think kid sasuke would do he got owned by lee didnt even get a chance to attack. The only reason obito lost was because he choked on candy before turning guy into barbeque.

This discussion is getting off topic. This is my last reply. It doesn't matter if that fight wasn't impressive for you or if he became chunin at the same time with Kakashi which in manga fact, the moment Obito became chunin, Kakashi was promoted to jounin. The point is, Obito was given and got a hold of most haxxed abilities one could imagine, but his lack of skills, battle smarts, and experience lead to his demise. It doesn't help that he has a weak resolve and doubted himself on the last moment.

 

[Sageof7Path]

Its the fact Obito is not skilled in utilizing his powers to their full potential, hence why he was beaten. He is just power with no talent.

That's not what Madara Uchiha says.

 

[flyboyissac]

I never commented so I don't why you're saying he blows Madara when my point wasn't even about that. Probably cause you're mad. Him being trained by Madara doesn't make him skilled when feats don't agree with that. Its about skills, meaning how powers are utilized.

Take away his Kamui, and Kakashi stomped him so easily. Take away EMS and Rinnegan from Madara, he stomped Naruto, Sai, Hashirama and Sasuke while blind. That is the difference in skills between Obito and Madara.

Lol he expanded his thread on some wind

 

[Fountain]

I actually agree, But only on the nerf part. Obito is indeed one of the most handicapped ninjas, He knows mokuton techniques and much more but he didn't used any of that during the war. Maybe too op?

 

[TenthHokagexRamen]

yep. If obito actually used all the alibilties he's capable of he would be stronger than the so6p himself.