Obito- The character destroyed by plot.

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Itachi and Naruto have the best character plot in my opinion.
Obito's isnt BAD, but its nothing extraordinary either.

 

[Honord Sage]

Naruto the Genin who would be King.

 

[Touken]

At least people critiscising plot have a neutral approach to the manga. Constructive critiscism is necessary to make future works better.

You people who defend Kishi are so braindead. All you ever say in these threads is "u mad bro", "stfu don't read if you don't like", "**** you", whatever.

Naruto's storyline isn't coherent. Only a fool would argue with that. You don't provoke the entire world to fight you when you could make them fight each other and make the whole thing so much easier. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Dribbles is right. Naruto's story line is completely based on bonds and friendship. You'd be silly to not realize that.

'Constructive criticism is necessary to make future works better'? Oh, you reckon Kishi'll pop into this thread and take notes on what the fanbase want?

 

[The9TailedKingOfPirates]

Why are you guys getting mad about obito loosing or characters that didnt have enough story died to quick. Most people on here get mad whenever the new chapter ia flashbacks anyways but at the same time you want backstories and flashbacks on all yhe akatski but then you get mad about how there are to many flash backs. I personally am enjoying this story a lot and love each chapter more then the next. I hate to be one of those guys saying if you dont like it don't read it but if all your going to do is pick out every flaw and every problem you have with it just because it didnt go as you wanted you might as well.not read it.....lol

 

[Mr Hiru]

obito is good characer, you clearly dont understand him...

Exactly. He was never a villain.

 

[Dribbles]

At least people critiscising plot have a neutral approach to the manga. Constructive critiscism is necessary to make future works better.

You people who defend Kishi are so braindead. All you ever say in these threads is "u mad bro", "stfu don't read if you don't like", "**** you", whatever.

Naruto's storyline isn't coherent. Only a fool would argue with that. You don't provoke the entire world to fight you when you could make them fight each other and make the whole thing so much easier. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm sorry, but I don't fall into your stereotypical generalized category.

And no, these people don't have a neutral approach to the manga. All I ever see them doing is *****ing about what Kishi is doing wrong, crying that this didn't happen, that didn't happen, that character got TNJ'd or it was all PNJ, I'm actually quite sick of it. People need to accept this story for what it is and know that everything that happens has been planned from either the start or a long time.

Naruto made quite a nice speech this chapter, like he always does. It was actually quite different then most, but no, this pathetic community likes to generalize it and label it 'TNJ' as if everything Naruto said didn't hold a thread of meaning in the manga.

Obito is an incredible antagonist, a very well-constructed character that had been twisted by a brilliant mastermind and eventually broken with the loss of his friend. "LOL rule the world 'cos Rin died." .. Yeah, that's the Naruto fanbase for ya, they only ever see the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I'm sorry, but I don't fall into your stereotypical generalized category.

And no, these people don't have a neutral approach to the manga. All I ever see them doing is *****ing about what Kishi is doing wrong, crying that this didn't happen, that didn't happen, that character got TNJ'd or it was all PNJ, I'm actually quite sick of it. People need to accept this story for what it is and know that everything that happens has been planned from either the start or a long time.

Naruto made quite a nice speech this chapter, like he always does. It was actually quite different then most, but no, this pathetic community likes to generalize it and label it 'TNJ' as if everything Naruto said didn't hold a thread of meaning in the manga.

Obito is an incredible antagonist, a very well-constructed character that had been twisted by a brilliant mastermind and eventually broken with the loss of his friend. "LOL rule the world 'cos Rin died." .. Yeah, that's the Naruto fanbase for ya, they only ever see the tip of the iceberg.

I think I don't fall in your generic stereotypical category either.

TnJ? At its finest. Naruto became the Sage of the Six Mouths.

Meaning? Yes, Naruto trascended from power and love to understanding.

Liked it? I loved this chapter.

and I see you liked it too.

 

[Armathyx]

I'm sorry, but I don't fall into your stereotypical generalized category.

And no, these people don't have a neutral approach to the manga. All I ever see them doing is *****ing about what Kishi is doing wrong, crying that this didn't happen, that didn't happen, that character got TNJ'd or it was all PNJ, I'm actually quite sick of it. People need to accept this story for what it is and know that everything that happens has been planned from either the start or a long time.

Naruto made quite a nice speech this chapter, like he always does. It was actually quite different then most, but no, this pathetic community likes to generalize it and label it 'TNJ' as if everything Naruto said didn't hold a thread of meaning in the manga.

Obito is an incredible antagonist, a very well-constructed character that had been twisted by a brilliant mastermind and eventually broken with the loss of his friend. "LOL rule the world 'cos Rin died." .. Yeah, that's the Naruto fanbase for ya, they only ever see the tip of the iceberg.

It hasn't been planned from the start and it's easy to demonstrate so, then again it's the case of 99% of stories, if you ever did any writing in your life you'll know that by the time you reach half of what you had planned you already have tons of different ways of ending your story instead of just one.

You do fall into the stereotype category because you're a beligerent moron:

Oh god shut the hell up with your "Plot no Jutsu" shit

Again, art needs to be critiscised. This community would be pointless if it were a place of worship for Kishimoto. Do you want 100x threads saying "thank you for this manga"?

There are many things he did right with this series and that's what keeps us reading, but in the long run he's also made many mistakes which could have easily been avoided if Kishi had more common sense and more writing skill. He overpowered his main hero too much and made of all the villains a joke. Sasori & Kakuzo & Nagato losing to a bunch of kids screaming "yeah whatevr!" is stupid and kills the whole "struggle" aspect of the story. Again, just a small example among thousands.

 

[madobi]

let `s hope kishi will not break the last strong man in this series madara uchiha
after he destroyed pain
destroying obito now
will definetely destroy sasuke

hope is madara will resist and be as he is till the end ! the only vilian till the end

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

I'm sorry, but I don't fall into your stereotypical generalized category.

And no, these people don't have a neutral approach to the manga. All I ever see them doing is *****ing about what Kishi is doing wrong, crying that this didn't happen, that didn't happen, that character got TNJ'd or it was all PNJ, I'm actually quite sick of it. People need to accept this story for what it is and know that everything that happens has been planned from either the start or a long time.

Naruto made quite a nice speech this chapter, like he always does. It was actually quite different then most, but no, this pathetic community likes to generalize it and label it 'TNJ' as if everything Naruto said didn't hold a thread of meaning in the manga.

Obito is an incredible antagonist, a very well-constructed character that had been twisted by a brilliant mastermind and eventually broken with the loss of his friend. "LOL rule the world 'cos Rin died." .. Yeah, that's the Naruto fanbase for ya, they only ever see the tip of the iceberg.

I strongly doubt everything, if anything, was planned from the beginning. Sasuke, for example, wasn't originally part of Kishi's original designs. Kishi's editor proposed that he give Naruto a rival and voila, now there's an almost indispensable character called Sasuke that obviously had a huge influence on how the current plot turned out. Try imaging that plot without Sasuke.

And that's just one example. I'm sure there were countless other similar influences during the last decade, that caused Kishi to alter the plot and characters, over and over again.