Obito (rinnegan) vs Nagato

Choose their Destinty

  • Nagato

    Votes: 13 44.8%
  • Obito

    Votes: 13 44.8%
  • Draw

    Votes: 3 10.3%

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Nagato can take this battle at a high diff if he's careful with the Shinra Tensei's and uses the Asura Path wisely when in close range.
 

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If you read properly, madara said you can use the sages techniques just by being senju+uchiha. Even konan knows that..she said it herself "Both Uchiha and Senju? That's the power of the six paths...you don't have such power..."

Here if you don't believe me:
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:| :| You do realize that he was talking about izanagi.....Right?? You cant use izanagi without uchiha + senju dna. Uchiha + senju dna = rikudou's bloodline, this doesnt prove that someone with uchiha & senju dna can use the rinnegan paths & i dont even know how you can fathom such an idea based on that scan..

Regardless of whatever you believed nagato's ideals were, he knew that naruto was the only one to stop him.
He couldn't do a thing
, so he trusted naruto to defeat him.

They took orders because they could do nothing about it....:|
Omg....The scan you posted was of deva path going after naruto, correct? well I was stating at that point that nagato was following obito's ideals & was expecting him to save the world (btw scan failed). When naruto convinced him otherwise it was already too late for nagato to do anything, he was on his deathbed. He took orders at the time of his akatsuki affiliation because he followed obito's twisted goal.

Now answer this, how was nagato able to use the full power of the rinnegan on his own?
He could do it unconsciously, he used deva path by himself. & anyways all the secrets of the rinnegan are written on the uchiha tablet, that's how madara learned them...
 

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He's an uzumaki, are you denying the uzumaki their bloodline trait?
Are you being a idiot and totally forgetting his moanings and Konan's B*tching when he did the ultimate shinra tensei and Chibaku tensei? are you?


Are you forgetting that With Paths he had the advantage of preserving his chakra from movements? And how much of a toll actually being in a fight takes on your body?
 

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:| :| You do realize that he was talking about izanagi.....Right?? You cant use izanagi without uchiha + senju dna. Uchiha + senju dna = rikudou's bloodline, this doesnt prove that someone with uchiha & senju dna can use the rinnegan paths & i dont even know how you can fathom such an idea based on that scan..



Omg....The scan you posted was of deva path going after naruto, correct? well I was stating at that point that nagato was following obito's ideals & was expecting him to save the world (btw scan failed). When naruto convinced him otherwise it was already too late for nagato to do anything, he was on his deathbed. He took orders at the time of his akatsuki affiliation because he followed obito's twisted goal.



He could do it unconsciously, he used deva path by himself. & anyways all the secrets of the rinnegan are written on the uchiha tablet, that's how madara learned them...
Okay listen. We both know Obito can beat the sh*t out of Nagato. He may have stronger Rinnegan techniques, but that's all he has. Obito would win in the end. This debate is pointless, and you know it man.
 

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:| :| You do realize that he was talking about izanagi.....Right?? You cant use izanagi without uchiha + senju dna. Uchiha + senju dna = rikudou's bloodline, this doesnt prove that someone with uchiha & senju dna can use the rinnegan paths & i dont even know how you can fathom such an idea based on that scan..



Omg....The scan you posted was of deva path going after naruto, correct? well I was stating at that point that nagato was following obito's ideals & was expecting him to save the world (btw scan failed). When naruto convinced him otherwise it was already too late for nagato to do anything, he was on his deathbed. He took orders at the time of his akatsuki affiliation because he followed obito's twisted goal.



He could do it unconsciously, he used deva path by himself. & anyways all the secrets of the rinnegan are written on the uchiha tablet, that's how madara learned them...
Wow this is very very stupid of you....:erm:

1. It literally says that it's the POWER of the six paths, where did you see bloodline Mr. baseless?

2. This scan would just shut you the f*ck up, konan said that they were never your pawns:


They fought for there own ideals yet took orders from obito because they could do nothing about it. (just like itachi)

3. He can do it unconsciously?<---------- That is a very stupid excuse

Show me a scan were he can use it unconsiously Mr. Baseless Assumption

Madara read the tablets, Nagato doesn't even know what a tablet is in the first place. nagato knows nothing about the tablest.
 

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Are you being a idiot and totally forgetting his moanings and Konan's B*tching when he did the ultimate shinra tensei and Chibaku tensei? are you?


Are you forgetting that With Paths he had the advantage of preserving his chakra from movements? And how much of a toll actually being in a fight takes on your body?
Lol insults, really? How pitiful *_*

So what if he was complaining? Show mw another ninja who can bust a village with one jutsu, lol... & btw That was a nagato who was already sick & dying.

Keep on denying nagato of his rightful uzumaki heritage & keep trolling him but fact is that nagato's chakra levels are on par with if not slightly lower than obito's.

& as for his paths being more advantageous, that is also false, nagato is constantly using chakra to control his paths & he is never resting. His outer path is always on, if he was fighting by himself then he would be preserving more chakra due to not having to constantly send it out to corpses.
 

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Using the scan of nagato saving yahiko from that jounin is not shrina tensei, if it was yahiko would of been repelled and killed right on the spot.
 

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Lol insults, really? How pitiful *_*

So what if he was complaining? Show mw another ninja who can bust a village with one jutsu, lol... & btw That was a nagato who was already sick & dying.

Keep on denying nagato of his rightful uzumaki heritage & keep trolling him but fact is that nagato's chakra levels are on par with if not slightly lower than obito's.

& as for his paths being more advantageous, that is also false, nagato is constantly using chakra to control his paths & he is never resting. His outer path is always on, if he was fighting by himself then he would be preserving more chakra due to not having to constantly send it out to corpses.
No. Nagato has much more chakra when healthy and mobile. But MS Tobi soloed BM Naruto, Hachibi, Kakashi and Gai. With only one MS. Imagine how devastating he would be if he used Rinnegan too.
 

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Wow this is very very stupid of you....:erm:

1. It literally says that it's the POWER of the six paths, where did you see bloodline Mr. baseless?
Fail, what is the rikudou's power exactly? his power comes from the uchiha & senju combined into one, that is the sage, his power stems from those bloodlines, that in no way means that whoever has those bloodlines can use all of his powers.

Your logic suggests that a uchiha can awaken MS just because he has the power of uchiha within him, completely false. Any uchiha with the right prerequisites can awaken MS, just like any senju + uchiha with the right prerequisites can use the rinnegan abilities. You need both eyes & without them you dont meet the conditions in order to have full access to the paths, END of story.

2. This scan would just shut you the f*ck up, konan said that they were never your pawns:


They fought for there own ideals yet took orders from obito because they could do nothing about it. (just like itachi)
Oh my god please stop....

Nagato fought for his ideals, what were his ideals? PEACE, who promised peace? OBITO. Obito manipulated nagato into thinking that he was fighting for his idea of peace when in fact he was fighting for obito's goals, you just keep cementing the fact that nagato was so delusional by his ideals that he didnt even think to question obito's judgement which in his mind was sound.

3. He can do it unconsciously?<---------- That is a very stupid excuse

Show me a scan were he can use it unconsiously Mr. Baseless Assumption
Lol you just dug yourself into a hole that you cant possibly think to climb back out of. How about you read the manga before looking dumb & telling me that im "baseless" lmfao, ask for scans, then make judgements, otherwise you just have egg all over your face. :hint:

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Nagato unconsiously using deva path, now by all means please proceed to make yourself look more foolish than ever. XD

Madara read the tablets, Nagato doesn't even know what a tablet is in the first place. nagato knows nothing about the tablest.
Wow....Read the manga dude U_U

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How would obito know what's on the tablet if nagato is the one with the rinnegan? Maybe because nagato was the one who read it, mei even implies it. :rolleyes:

This should shut down your false claims or would you like to proceed? Lol
 

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No. Nagato has much more chakra when healthy and mobile. But MS Tobi soloed BM Naruto, Hachibi, Kakashi and Gai. With only one MS. Imagine how devastating he would be if he used Rinnegan too.
That wasnt MS obito that was rinngan obito that's how he would fight, he doesnt fight using the paths so he would be relying on kamui & taijutsu. Both of those easily get stopped by deva path...

& yes I know that healthy nagato has more chakra.

Okay listen. We both know Obito can beat the sh*t out of Nagato. He may have stronger Rinnegan techniques, but that's all he has. Obito would win in the end. This debate is pointless, and you know it man.
Bro, im an advocate of obito till the end, that doesnt mean that i dont know when he's fighting a losing battle.

Sorry but with nagato's animal paths then obito isnt getting near him, & long ranged attacks get stopped by preta.

Ill say it a thousand times, obito isnt winning without the gedo statue.
 

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I may be biased for Nagato, but I'll try to be balanced

Prime Nagato VS Obito

First I thought it would be a draw, but after some thinking I believe Nagato wind high diff.

Why? I'll explain :

Obito before Juubito could not use all Rinnegan abilities, and regardless if he can use it or not, he wouldn't use because he has no experience in combat with these skills. He would use mainly Kamui,Mokuton and Katon. Maybe Izanagi if things went bad.

Nagato can use all six paths very well.


So first, I think Nagato's Summons would be a problem for Obito to deal with. But I think Obito could manage it with his Kamui. But, at some point when he is dodging the summons, nagato can pretty much spam Shinra Tensei, Banshou Tenin, Chackra Bombs etc, while having an 360 field's vision with his summons, so no matter where Obito materializes, he will know.
Obito stated that he cannot maintain his kamui for a very large period against Konan, so It would be a matter of stamina, and I believe Nagato has much more stamina then Obito(Rinnegan + Uzumaki anyone?)
So in the end, Nagato would win.

So this are my thoughts. Please consider it.
 

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Fail, what is the rikudou's power exactly? his power comes from the uchiha & senju combined into one, that is the sage, his power stems from those bloodlines, that in no way means that whoever has those bloodlines can use all of his powers.

Your logic suggests that a uchiha can awaken MS just because he has the power of uchiha within him, completely false. Any uchiha with the right prerequisites can awaken MS, just like any senju + uchiha with the right prerequisites can use the rinnegan abilities. You need both eyes & without them you dont meet the conditions in order to have full access to the paths, END of story.



Oh my god please stop....

Nagato fought for his ideals, what were his ideals? PEACE, who promised peace? OBITO. Obito manipulated nagato into thinking that he was fighting for his idea of peace when in fact he was fighting for obito's goals, you just keep cementing the fact that nagato was so delusional by his ideals that he didnt even think to question obito's judgement which in his mind was sound.



Lol you just dug yourself into a hole that you cant possibly think to climb back out of. How about you read the manga before looking dumb & telling me that im "baseless" lmfao, ask for scans, then make judgements, otherwise you just have egg all over your face. :hint:

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Nagato unconsiously using deva path, now by all means please proceed to make yourself look more foolish than ever. XD



Wow....Read the manga dude U_U

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How would obito know what's on the tablet if nagato is the one with the rinnegan? Maybe because nagato was the one who read it, mei even implies it. :rolleyes:

This should shut down your false claims or would you like to proceed? Lol
1. See how you function?

You don't know if the sages power is based on senju+uchiha, they are desendants.
It is not not consistent family members that they married into.

prime example: hashirama and mito

You don't know if the sage had mokuton like hahsirama.


2. Konan stated that they were never your pawns, meaning she knew tobi's way contradicted there way of peace.
Nagato did nothing about it to use his method of peace. <--------Point is, they knew tobi was evil

3. Funny how you post the scan of when yahiko died, and tobi was constantly meeting nagato before the demise of yahiko.

and the day he said he'll realize it, is the day yahiko died.


Everyday obito was meeting up with nagato, he was teaching him more and more how to use the rinnegan.

If it was done unconsciously how did konan know about it?


Failed yet again

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