Obito, Rin, and Kakashi, Madara's plan to control Obito?

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Okay, so after reading the newest chapter you find out that Uchihas unlock there eyes by obtaining love and then losing it. Which got me thinking about Obito and Rin and how the reason he is even with Madara in the first place. So Madara being the leat Uchiha must know the whole thing about the love and Uchia eye story and when he found Obito and learned about how he felt about Rin and Kakashi he hatched a plan to get Obito on his side. What I think is that Madara did some kind of a genjestu on Obito and made him think he see Kakashi killing Rin or at least had something to do with setting Rin's death up. Madara knowing Obito's love for his teamates he knew he could awaken Obito's MS and get him on his side all in one action the whole killing 2 birds with 1 stone thing yeah. Cause even if it was a genjestu just the Obito thinking he saw what he saw would be enough to awaken his MS i think, right? The reason I think it might be a genjestu is because when we find out that Tobi has really been Obito this whole time he tells Kakashi if you must know why its because you let Rin die.
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But then later in Chapter 608 Kakashi asks Obito why he is doing this again and say is it related to Rin?
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SO what I'm saying is why would Kakashi question it being about Rin's if Obito had already confirmed that it was because Kakashi let Rin die? Why would he ask this? Unless he didnt really kill her and maybe Rin is still alive some where or she did die but someother way? What do you guys think? Its been really bothering me we havent learned anything more about Rin and her death. And do you guys think Madara and his Zetsu's had anything to do with setting it up? Cause Madara knew he needed a Uchiha for his plan to work and Obito would be the perfect choice because the stronger an Uchihas love and lose of love the stronger their hate which would make Obito super powerful cause he had nothing but love for Rin which maybe why he was able to use his MS so easily at first? Idk but i want to know this whole story about Rin alrdy its killing me why would Kakashi have to kill Rin? Was she a spy? Did she have something in her that the mist needed and the only way they could stop them from getting it was if Kakashi killed her? I WANT TO KNOW! Cause Obito should of been a good guy instead of this dream world loving reality hater leaf judus! haha let me know what you guys think about this stuff?
 

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Okay, so after reading the newest chapter you find out that Uchihas unlock there eyes by obtaining love and then losing it. Which got me thinking about Obito and Rin and how the reason he is even with Madara in the first place. So Madara being the leat Uchiha must know the whole thing about the love and Uchia eye story and when he found Obito and learned about how he felt about Rin and Kakashi he hatched a plan to get Obito on his side. What I think is that Madara did some kind of a genjestu on Obito and made him think he see Kakashi killing Rin or at least had something to do with setting Rin's death up. Madara knowing Obito's love for his teamates he knew he could awaken Obito's MS and get him on his side all in one action the whole killing 2 birds with 1 stone thing yeah. Cause even if it was a genjestu just the Obito thinking he saw what he saw would be enough to awaken his MS i think, right? The reason I think it might be a genjestu is because when we find out that Tobi has really been Obito this whole time he tells Kakashi if you must know why its because you let Rin die.
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But then later in Chapter 608 Kakashi asks Obito why he is doing this again and say is it related to Rin?
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SO what I'm saying is why would Kakashi question it being about Rin's if Obito had already confirmed that it was because Kakashi let Rin die? Why would he ask this? Unless he didnt really kill her and maybe Rin is still alive some where or she did die but someother way? What do you guys think? Its been really bothering me we havent learned anything more about Rin and her death. And do you guys think Madara and his Zetsu's had anything to do with setting it up? Cause Madara knew he needed a Uchiha for his plan to work and Obito would be the perfect choice because the stronger an Uchihas love and lose of love the stronger their hate which would make Obito super powerful cause he had nothing but love for Rin which maybe why he was able to use his MS so easily at first? Idk but i want to know this whole story about Rin alrdy its killing me why would Kakashi have to kill Rin? Was she a spy? Did she have something in her that the mist needed and the only way they could stop them from getting it was if Kakashi killed her? I WANT TO KNOW! Cause Obito should of been a good guy instead of this dream world loving reality hater leaf judus! haha let me know what you guys think about this stuff?
 

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Okay, so after reading the newest chapter you find out that Uchihas unlock there eyes by obtaining love and then losing it. Which got me thinking about Obito and Rin and how the reason he is even with Madara in the first place. So Madara being the leat Uchiha must know the whole thing about the love and Uchia eye story and when he found Obito and learned about how he felt about Rin and Kakashi he hatched a plan to get Obito on his side. What I think is that Madara did some kind of a genjestu on Obito and made him think he see Kakashi killing Rin or at least had something to do with setting Rin's death up. Madara knowing Obito's love for his teamates he knew he could awaken Obito's MS and get him on his side all in one action the whole killing 2 birds with 1 stone thing yeah. Cause even if it was a genjestu just the Obito thinking he saw what he saw would be enough to awaken his MS i think, right? The reason I think it might be a genjestu is because when we find out that Tobi has really been Obito this whole time he tells Kakashi if you must know why its because you let Rin die.
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But then later in Chapter 608 Kakashi asks Obito why he is doing this again and say is it related to Rin?
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SO what I'm saying is why would Kakashi question it being about Rin's if Obito had already confirmed that it was because Kakashi let Rin die? Why would he ask this? Unless he didnt really kill her and maybe Rin is still alive some where or she did die but someother way? What do you guys think? Its been really bothering me we havent learned anything more about Rin and her death. And do you guys think Madara and his Zetsu's had anything to do with setting it up? Cause Madara knew he needed a Uchiha for his plan to work and Obito would be the perfect choice because the stronger an Uchihas love and lose of love the stronger their hate which would make Obito super powerful cause he had nothing but love for Rin which maybe why he was able to use his MS so easily at first? Idk but i want to know this whole story about Rin alrdy its killing me why would Kakashi have to kill Rin? Was she a spy? Did she have something in her that the mist needed and the only way they could stop them from getting it was if Kakashi killed her? I WANT TO KNOW! Cause Obito should of been a good guy instead of this dream world loving reality hater leaf judus! haha let me know what you guys think about this stuff?
 

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Nah I don't think Rin is alive.Probably Madara set up the whole thing.
The spy theory and the mist experiments theory are the more plausible.
We will find out eventually.I am bored to elaborate more cause this thread has been made so many times before.
 

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Fail thread. Kakashi without being in genjutsu confessed killing rin to obito.
 

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Obito planned to control Obito?
i never said this? read i said madara planned to control Obito by setting up Rins death cause he knew if Obito saw Rin die that his strong love would turm into hate like all uchihas and would make Obito want the moon plan or this is what i believe
 

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I think that Madara used Zetsu to transform into Kakashi to make it seem as if Kakashi killed Rin.
 

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yes there is lmao, especially when the OP already posted this thread three times in an hour lmao.
BTW i didnt mean to post this more than once it just kept coming up on my browser and wouldnt load to the next page cause my connection was going in and out so i clicked the post button more then a bunch of times and unfortunely it posted a couple times my bad wont happen again
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I think that Madara used Zetsu to transform into Kakashi to make it seem as if Kakashi killed Rin.

I was thinking maybe something like that too because madara does say something about another zetsu that wasnt there
 

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I think that Madara used Zetsu to transform into Kakashi to make it seem as if Kakashi killed Rin.

i dont think zetsu turned to kakashi because they never fought kakashi to touch him and zetsu cannot awaken mangekyou sharingan
 

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i dont think zetsu turned to kakashi because they never fought kakashi to touch him and zetsu cannot awaken mangekyou sharingan

Good point, but where does it say that Zetsu can't replicate the MS? For all we know Zetsu could have been taking the shape of one of the Kirigakure Shinobi.
 

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Kakashi killed Rin but she might be controlled or used as a guinea pig for the experiments since it was stated here in the

and also when Kakashi stabs Rin you can the reaction of the mist shinobi's it might have been mutual decision of rin and Kakashi to kill her since she might have been used against leaf or some experiments IMO .....

I don't think kakashi was controlled or was under genjutsu since he was jounin when Obito got crushed already so genjutsu might not have affectde him any way..

Hope we will get to know in upcoming chapters about it
 
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