Obito MS

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There is a thing I dont get about Obito Ms.Unlike the usual Ms that grant one power in one eye and another in one.
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Tsukuyomi-Sasuke's right eye
Amaterasu-Sasuke's left eye
His Ms sharingan grants him the power of two Kamuiand Space time ninjustsuHow is this:shrug:

IMO If Obito can perform both in one eye Kakashi should be able to do the same just needs practice:shrug:
 

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you're right, but a sharingan works the best when it's an uchiha body who is using it, kakashi said it before. since he hasn't an uchiha body, it's hard for him to use sharingan
 

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i think they are different like the left is for long range like kakashi is using it and the right is for close combat like obito has shown
 

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Its not two kamui is one justu this has been explained countless times already.Obito learned to use his kamui one way and kakashi eventually learned to use it in another way.It is still one justu.Everyone has there own unique and personal power that nobody else can obtain.


obito and kakashi have kamui
sasuke has his enton
shisui has kotoamatsukami
 
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you're right, but a sharingan works the best when it's an uchiha body who is using it, kakashi said it before. since he hasn't an uchiha body, it's hard for him to use sharingan

yh thats why I said he has to train to perfect it :D
 

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That that's only for Sasuke doesn't mean that it is the same for every Uchiha around...
 

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Everyone has there own unique and personal power that nobody else can obtain.And as for the other part of your question its not two kamui its one justu this has been explained countless times already.

Well I guess its one in a case seeing how they both lead to the sme dimention
 

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i think they are different like the left is for long range like kakashi is using it and the right is for close combat like obito has shown

If this were true how is Obito capable of using Kamui
 

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Kakashi's eye has a ranged Kamui, but Obito's eye has a melee Kamui, plus he can use intangibility because of his Uchiha body, that's my assumption.
 

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Kakashi's eye has a ranged Kamui, but Obito's eye has a melee Kamui, plus he can use intangibility because of his Uchiha body, that's my assumption.

This would of been a great theory and i would of agreed if kakashi did not already perform the feat of already being able to transport himself obito does the same thing but just does partial transportation's.Since it is just one justu anyone with the eye can perform any variation of the technique as long as you train or know how it needs to be done.This is why the chapter one justu was such a big deal after confirming its the same eye and fighting obito for such a good length of time he was able to start countering him and use other variations of the justu himself.It is only a matter of time before he learns to control it precisely and just send partial body parts to the other dimension to avoid attacks instead of just transporting his whole body.
 
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Why do you think MS only has one power per eye? You can have Tsukuyomi in one eye and Amaterasu in the other, as well as use Izanagi/Izanami in either eye.

And remember space-time jutsu isn't something that's exclusive to sharingan users anyway. So it's possible that it's just a jutsu that's enhanced by the power of his sharingan, not a specific MS power.
 

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Obito MS is shortly new s/T technique and so is kakashi's. They can take their way to other dimension and so can konoha-no-kiroi-senko(yellow-flash) i think these students got something with them.
 

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Dude I mean the intangibility

Its not intangibility its just one justu what are you not understanding about that ?

The just allows one to transports oneself or another to the other dimension.Obito was able to suck others in and himself when we first saw him.Kakashi after discovering he had ms unlocked this entire time learned to use the same justu but in a different manner he was able to use it to suck others in as well but his did it violently and at a far range needing no contact.
During the battle with obito he shows us that he knew how to implicate kamui in other ways by doing the exact opposite of what kakashi does by using kamui to fling objects violently at people from the other dimension to this one.Its one justu with many uses.Once kakashi realized this he was able to start countering it and was able to start using other variations of the technique.
 

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the biggest flaw in someone saying someone just needs to practice their ms technique is that they could go blind for all that practice b4 being able to use it productively in battle...
 

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Its not intangibility its just one justu what are you not understanding about that ?

The just allows one to transports oneself or another to the other dimension.Obito was able to suck others in and himself when we first saw him.Kakashi after discovering he had ms unlocked this entire time learned to use the same justu but in a different manner he was able to use it to suck others in as well but his did it violently and at a far range needing no contact.
During the battle with obito he shows us that he knew how to implicate kamui in other ways by doing the exact opposite of what kakashi does by using kamui to fling objects violently at people from the other dimension to this one.Its one justu with many uses.Once kakashi realized this he was able to start countering it and was able to start using other variations of the technique.

So you agree Kakasi has the ability to go intangible?:(
 

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Why do you think MS only has one power per eye? You can have Tsukuyomi in one eye and Amaterasu in the other, as well as use Izanagi/Izanami in either eye.

And remember space-time jutsu isn't something that's exclusive to sharingan users anyway. So it's possible that it's just a jutsu that's enhanced by the power of his sharingan, not a specific MS power.



Each eyes doesn't hold a certain amount of powers.And it was never stated or hinted that izanagi and izanami are performed in a certain eye. As obito stated if you are lucky enough to unlock amaterasu and tsukuyomi you have a chance at unlocking suusano.Suusano is brought about by combining amatersau which represents the "Material World and Light" the antipode to Tsukuyomi which is the Spiritual World. The powers that represents material world gives the spiritual world a form.This form
brought about by the material world and spiritual world form suusano.

Then later down the road this form can be completed through perfect suusano by making its presence completely psychical.
 
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So you agree Kakasi has the ability to go intangible?:(

Nobody can go intangible obito is just removing portions of his body into the other dimension.To an observer it looks like intangibility but yes i see where your coming from and yes to your answer eventually.He just learned how to transport himself its gonna take more concentration to specifically just transport portions of his body
 
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