Obito/Kamui overrated. Obito is near the end

[BossManKakashi]

Obito is now only using kamui (not gedo bijuus or rinnegan) is not in the top ten. He can't use izanagi or he'll lose kamui and he pretty much has no offense. I think elite tier Ninja steam roll him without those aforementioned enhancements, minato, naruto, sasuke, itachi, raikage, nagato, kabutomaru, oro, j man, the 3rd, killer be all could own obito. I'm pretty sure guy and Kakashi are about to put the final beat down on him here shortly

 

[fairytail10]

Lol, i stopped reading when you said Obito is not the top ten.

 

[Dantee]

Lol, i stopped reading when you said Obito is not the top ten.

This.

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Obito is the strongest character alive right now (Edo Madara is basically a zombie). Rinnegan automatically made him top 5, his feats showed us though that he was number one, even though all he does is spam his MS

 

[WhistleBlower]

uh huh, i hear you, but dont agree with you

 

[BossManKakashi]

With the and 6 paths of bijuu I'd agree he would be strongest alive..but he just lost those it seems and the point of this thread states without those he isn't top ten. It hasn't been confirmed if he can use the other rinne abilities at this point, based off the current manga where he lost the 6 paths and the gedo is busy I think his natural battle ability is restricted below the top tiers

 

[nj tandi]

Obito is now only using kamui (not gedo bijuus or rinnegan) is not in the top ten. He can't use izanagi or he'll lose kamui and he pretty much has no offense. I think elite tier Ninja steam roll him without those aforementioned enhancements, minato, naruto, sasuke, itachi, raikage, nagato, kabutomaru, oro, j man, the 3rd, killer be all could own obito. I'm pretty sure guy and Kakashi are about to put the final beat down on him here shortly

Obito has no offensive power? Lol, go get yourself glass of water.

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[Lilvic92]

You should go back and read the 590's chapters, he was owning Guy, Naruto, Bee, and Kakashi all by himself until Kakashi figured out his secret. And Kakashi can't use kamui anymore so we're about to see what Obito can really do.

Obito is top 5 right now

 

[Retsu]

Bakufuu Ranbu is enough to 1 shot most ninja, and is one of the most powerful flame techs we've seen barring madara

 

[BossManKakashi]

Bakufuu Ranbu is enough to 1 shot most ninja, and is one of the most powerful flame techs we've seen barring madara

Proof? Maybe one shot fodders and even have a chance against 2nd tier ninja like Kakashi and guy but I don't see it scratching an elite tier ninja as naruto who was at his chakra limit before the fight started shrugged it off, according to naruto the 4th raikages punch seemed way more threatening then that fire release.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

3T Sharingan (So enhanced perception, genjutsu's, basically what all 3T sharingan's can do)

Rinnegan

Fire Release

Intangibility

Ability to control the Kyuubi

Senju Dna which enhance physical energy

Ability to suck people into another dimension

Ability to release weapons stored in the other dimension to this dimension for example wind shuriken's, stakes etc..

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Weak???? GTFO! I didn't mention Gedo mazo, bijuu's blah blah blah I don't need to.

 

[BossManKakashi]

3T Sharingan (So enhanced perception, genjutsu's, basically what all 3T sharingan's can do)

Rinnegan

Fire Release

Intangibility

Ability to control the Kyuubi

Senju Dna which enhance physical energy

Ability to suck people into another dimension

Ability to release weapons stored in the other dimension to this dimension for example wind shuriken's, stakes etc..

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Weak???? GTFO! I didn't mention Gedo mazo, bijuu's blah blah blah I don't need to.

1. rinnegan in useless now he doesnt have the 6 paths abilities as of yet
2.his fire release didnt dent naruto (an elite tier ninja)
3. his intangibility is nice but the secrets out on that so its usefulness is limited now
4. cant control the kyuubi while its in narutos body
5. senju dna makes him stronger and gives him the chakra to control big summons like the gedo and tailed beasts, too bad the bijuu and gezo are out of play at this point.

obito is top three with his summons under his control, without Id say he is a low s-rank missing nin, stronger than most shinobis but not quite to the elite level

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

1. rinnegan in useless now he doesnt have the 6 paths abilities as of yet
2.his fire release didnt dent naruto (an elite tier ninja)
3. his intangibility is nice but the secrets out on that so its usefulness is limited now
4. cant control the kyuubi while its in narutos body
5. senju dna makes him stronger and gives him the chakra to control big summons like the gedo and tailed beasts, too bad the bijuu and gezo are out of play at this point.

obito is top three with his summons under his control, without Id say he is a low s-rank missing nin, stronger than most shinobis but not quite to the elite level

1) That has not be confirmed

2) If madara did one fire style it would not "dent" naruto as well it would take a lot more then that

3) Yes because he gave kakashi his eye as a child, plus kakashi can't use kamui much

4) So, he is still able to that's why every thought he was the great madara uchiha

5) Gedo mazo is charging up and is about to come back to cause carnage

You can't say without this or without that what someone has is what someone has, you can't say naruto kurama and sasuke without sharingan that is what they have obtained by whatever means and that is there power so basically Obito is top 2 right now.

 

[BossManKakashi]

1) That has not be confirmed

2) If madara did one fire style it would not "dent" naruto as well it would take a lot more then that

3) Yes because he gave kakashi his eye as a child, plus kakashi can't use kamui much

4) So, he is still able to that's why every thought he was the great madara uchiha

5) Gedo mazo is charging up and is about to come back to cause carnage

You can't say without this or without that what someone has is what someone has, you can't say naruto kurama and sasuke without sharingan that is what they have obtained by whatever means and that is there power so basically Obito is top 2 right now.

naruto was already past his chakra limit when he found obito in the first place and had just defeated several extremely powerful and proven ninja on the way only with shadow clones, and obito didnt even scratch naruto when he got there. I am pretty sure every uchia can control the nine tails its the power of the sharingan. sasuke did it and he didnt have any training from madara. obito had the bijuus power taken from him, and quite frankly starting the eye of the moon plan early means he was desperate. and honestly you have no idea what the gezo is about to do so dont pretend like you do unless your name is kishimoto.

heres some food for thought: if tobi was so strong, why does he need to use madaras name to scare people? why did he need nagato?why didnt he just capture the bijuu all by himself and take over the world? FACT :he couldnt capture 2 bijuu while using the power of 7 bijuu. edo nagato was close to soloing naruto and bee but tobi cant do it with 7 bijuu? top two? what dimension are you living in?