obito/kakashi's ms

[Divisor]

some people say that obito was under madara's genjutsu when kakashi killed rin,it is known that you need to kill a close person to you so you can unlock the ms but how did obito and kakashi unlock the ms if they haven't killed her?

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Wtf is this?
Rin died for real that time, of course Madara has something to do with it but it wasn't an illusion.

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

1. You don't have to KILL anybody closest to you to get MS, you have to witness their death.

2. Madara had nothing to do with it.

3. Kakashi killed Rin.

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