Obito/Itachi relationship.

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I think kishi only created a hype of itachi otherwise I don't think itachi would defeat obito with kamui.

 

[Romy9]

I think kishi only created a hype of itachi otherwise I don't think itachi would defeat obito with kamui.

It's amazing that you can think that after you looked at the scans. But this isn't about beating Kamui.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

It's amazing that you can think that after you looked at the scans. But this isn't about beating Kamui.

I know itachi is really strong but ms obito can't be defeated easily. Itachi can't keep susanoo activatw even for 1 minute. How could he land a blow on obito?

 

[Torche]

I know itachi is really strong but ms obito can't be defeated easily. Itachi can't keep up susanoo for 1 minute. How could he land a blow on obito?

On his death bed. This is entirely besides the point. It's a fact that Obito saw Itachi as a dangerous and useful individual; this is undeniable.

 

[Romy9]

I know itachi is really strong but ms obito can't be defeated easily. Itachi can't keep up susanoo for 1 minute. How could he land a blow on obito?

How did Naruto and Minato land a blow on Obito?

The right eye's primary weakness is that both aspects of Kamui cannot be used concurrently, as the user must become and remain tangible in order to utilise Kamui's teleportation, providing a small opportunity in which they are unable to pass through objects and thus, are vulnerable to injury. This deficiency means that the user must also materialise when ejecting stored items, presenting the same vulnerability.[31] According to Konan, Obito could only maintain his intangibility for approximately five consecutive minutes at a time, after which he was presumably rendered completely solid for a duration. In order to bypass this weakness and remain in Kamui's dimension for a longer duration, Obito had to "solidify" and absorb his entire body. She also revealed that the time it took him to absorb something was proportional to its mass, and that it took him longer to absorb himself than another person or object.[32]. Also, to pass through objects Obito must "activate" the intangibility to Kamui, so any part of his body will overlap with objects and people, even parts that were meant to land an attack. To land a successful blow, he must "deactivate" the intangibility, leaving him vulnerable to attack as well.

Additionally, due to the nature of this technique's intangibility, the sections of the user's body residing in Kamui's dimension can still interact normally with other objects contained within said dimension. As a result, the user can be damaged by such items, a characteristic that Kakashi exploited to injure Obito on multiple occasions during the Fourth Shinobi World War.

This pretty much explains it. A shinobi of Itachi's caliber would use those weaknesses without breaking a sweat. At the end of the day, Kamui isn't unbeatable.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

How did Naruto and Minato land a blow on Obito?



This pretty much explains it. A shinobi of Itachi's caliber would use those weaknesses without breaking a sweat. At the end of the day, Kamui isn't unbeatable.

Don't you know about kcm narutos speed and minatos ftg?

Naruto could stretch his arms in kcm mode which gave a tough time to obito.

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Can itachi use the same speed as to kcm naruto?

 

[Conspirator.]

The relationship was basically Obito using Itachi. Why would he try and kill him, when Itachi was helping the Akatsuki obtain the NV equivalent of WMDs?

 

[Romy9]

Don't you know about kcm narutos speed and minatos ftg?

Can itachi use the same speed as to kcm naruto

Of course he can't. But you obviously didn't read what I quoted. You digressed on something that would undermine Itachi, but unfortunately no, it won't. His weakness doesn't talk about opponent's speed. But to answer you, Itachi's speed was maxed out in Part 1 and he made seals at the speed which even a Sharingan couldn't follow. One stat isn't everything in a fight. I'm sure you know that.

The relationship was basically Obito using Itachi. Why would he try and kill him, when Itachi was helping the Akatsuki obtain the NV equivalent of WMDs?

Yeah, the scans clearly depict that.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

On his death bed. This is entirely besides the point. It's a fact that Obito saw Itachi as a dangerous and useful individual; this is undeniable.

I know itachi would be tough opponent for obito but he can't defeat him.

 

[Torche]

I know itachi would be tough opponent for obito but he can't defeat him.

The thread isn't about who defeats who though; it is discussing their relationship. Itachi obviously posed certain potential dangers to Obito and Akatsuki, plus the man power was needed.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Of course he can't. But you obviously didn't read what I quoted. You digressed on something that would undermine Itachi, but unfortunately no, it won't. His weakness doesn't talk about opponent's speed. But to answer you, Itachi's speed was maxed out in Part 1 and he made seals at the speed which even a Sharingan couldn't follow. One stat isn't everything in a fight. I'm sure you know that.

Bro you are underestimating obito.

IMO only healthy itachi could defeat obito coz of his lack of blindness.

But itachi at that time couldn't defeat obito. I didn't say that itachi is weak. Everyone know that itachi is one of strongest shinobis.

 

[Romy9]

The thread isn't about who defeats who though; it is discussing their relationship. Itachi obviously posed certain potential dangers to Obito and Akatsuki, plus the man power was needed.

You didn't actually think they would resort to that? You gotta love the ones who embrace blindness.

Bro you are underestimating obito.

IMO only healthy itachi could defeat obito coz of his lack of blindness.

But itachi at that time couldn't defeat obito. I didn't say that itachi is weak. Everyone know that itachi is one of strongest shinobis.

No, I'm not. You're overestimating Kamui.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

You would be crazy if you thought Itachi was weak. The scans provide insightful info on how Obito felt about Itachi. The only problem is people acknowledging that.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

The thread isn't about who defeats who though; it is discussing their relationship. Itachi obviously posed certain potential dangers to Obito and Akatsuki, plus the man power was needed.

Yup I agree. Itachi was keeping an eye on obito that's why he couldn't go full against nations.

Plus itachis was strength needed for akatsuki.

I misunderstood the thread my mistake. Sorry for that :|

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

You didn't actually think they would resort to that? You gotta love the ones who embrace blindness.



No, I'm not. You're overestimating Kamui.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

You would be crazy if you thought Itachi was weak. The scans provide insightful info on how Obito felt about Itachi. The only problem is people acknowledging that.

I think you are not getting my point. I just said that unhealthy itachi couldn't be threat to obito.
I didn't say itachi was weak.

Itachi due to his health and ms over use couldnt able to keep susanoo for less than half minute.

I am just talking about unhealthy itachi not healthy itachi. Healthy itachi might defeat obito.

 

[Romy9]

I think you are not getting my point. I just said that unhealthy itachi couldn't be threat to obito.
I didn't say itachi was weak.

Itachi due to his health and ms over use couldnt able to keep susanoo for less half minute.

I am just talking about unhealthy itachi not healthy itachi. Healthy itachi might defeat obito.

And yet somehow, he was. Read the statements again.

Susanoo isn't everything.

Speculations, they're not really important. What's of importance here is that Obito viewed Itachi as a threat and that his behavior was restricted while Itachi was alive.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

And yet somehow, he was. Read the statements again.

Susanoo isn't everything.

Speculations, they're not really important. What's of importance here is that Obito viewed Itachi as a threat and that his behavior was restricted while Itachi was alive.

Without susanoo how would itachi tank obitos mokuton and kamui intangibility.



You are clearly undermining obito. What type of techniques itachi has without susanoo. The answer is Nothing.

Without yata mirror or totsuka, he can't even keep up with obito for 5 minutes.

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Single touch would lead itachi to the dimension forever.

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[Romy9]

Without susanoo how would itachi tank obitos mokuton.


You are clearly undermining obito. What type of techniques itachi has without susanoo. The answer is Nothing.

Without yata mirror or totsuka, he can't even keep up with obito for 5 minutes.



Single touch would lead itachi to the dimension forever.

And you said you misunderstood the topic. It's irrelevant. Do you understand? Or do I have to label you? Do you agree that Obito and understand that Obito viewed Itachi as a risk and danger to him? A simple yes or no. Yes or no.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Why are you posting fanfiction in a thread discussing their relationship? You have a dislike for Itachi, we get it.

So Itachi>Nagato? Tasty beans bro

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

And you said you misunderstood the topic. It's irrelevant. Do you understand? Or do I have to label you? Do you agree that Obito and understand that Obito viewed Itachi as a risk and danger to him? A simple yes or no. Yes or no.

Itachi was a danger for obito as he can't go full against shinobi nations because itachi was a spy in akatsuki so he can't let his plans get leaked so early. That's why after getting 7 tail beasts and itachis death, he ordered pain to attack konoha and revealed his plans to kages.

Danger in terms of strength depends on itachis condition. With blindness and illness itachi wasnt a threat to obito.

Only healthy itachi would be a threat for obito in terms of strength.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Of course he can't. But you obviously didn't read what I quoted. You digressed on something that would undermine Itachi, but unfortunately no, it won't. His weakness doesn't talk about opponent's speed. But to answer you, Itachi's speed was maxed out in Part 1 and he made seals at the speed which even a Sharingan couldn't follow. One stat isn't everything in a fight. I'm sure you know that.



Yeah, the scans clearly depict that.

How does making faster hand seals eqvate to having faster foot speed? Fact still remains that Itachi needs Naruto and Minato level speed to counter Kamui