Obito is NOT Tobi, Tobi is Tobi.

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*inhale* Okay okay, I know what you guys are thinking here "Obito's mask fell off and exposed his face and its too obvious for him not to that man!" and you're right. But I'm here saying that man standing infront of Naruto and Kakashi and Guy and the entire Shinobi Alliance is NOT Obito Uchiha. That man is Tobi. Obito had hopes and dreams and ambition and most of all, his strong will and desire for Rin. When Kakashi killed Rin (which right now we don't know why) on that fateful day, Kakashi killed Obito Uchiha with her. I've heard once before on a TV show or something "A body without a soul is a demon's playground." Kakashi killed Rin and killed Obito's soul. Once Obito realized Rin was gone, he had nothing to live for anymore. Thus, the creation of Tobi was inevitable. And after reading this, I still know what you're saying "But Obito said he was going to make a world of peace so that everyone, including Kakashi and Rin could live together" and yes, you're right again. Good job. But I've also heard "A demon is just another puppet for the master devil" Once Tobi returned to Madara's cave, Madara from that point on lead the shots until he actually died. Madara told Tobi everything and Tobi in a sense BECAME a reflection of Madara himself. Obito is dead along with Rin during all this. I feel like if Kakashi clears the heavy air between Tobi and himself about Rin's death then maybe Tobi will turn back into Obito and stop this nonsense. *exhale* Okay, whatcha think?
 
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I see what you're saying, but it's still Obito, though. xd
The Obito we used to know from Kakashi Gaiden is 'dead' in a metaphoric sense, but he's changed quite a bit.

Welcome to the base, anyway.
 

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Umm I am really sorry but I really can't read things without an occasional space O_O
But I must assure you that Obito is Tobi :y
Seriously, though. It's not like you're talking in rel life in a hurry, why not space it out? Seems kind of sloppy when it's all mashed up together..

OT: You have somewhat of a point and I see it but either way, a persona is made by a person and that person was Obito.
 
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*inhale* Okay okay, I know what you guys are thinking here "Obito's mask fell off and exposed his face and its too obvious for him not to that man!" and you're right. But I'm here saying that man standing infront of Naruto and Kakashi and Guy and the entire Shinobi Alliance is NOT Obito Uchiha. That man is Tobi. Obito had hopes and dreams and ambition and most of all, his strong will and desire for Rin. When Kakashi killed Rin (which right now we don't know why) on that fateful day, Kakashi killed Obito Uchiha with her. I've heard once before on a TV show or something "A body without a soul is a demon's playground." Kakashi killed Rin and killed Obito's soul. Once Obito realized Rin was gone, he had nothing to live for anymore. Thus, the creation of Tobi was inevitable. And after reading this, I still know what you're saying "But Obito said he was going to make a world of peace so that everyone, including Kakashi and Rin could live together" and yes, you're right again. Good job. But I've also heard "A demon is just another puppet for the master devil" Once Tobi returned to Madara's cave, Madara from that point on lead the shots until he actually died. Madara told Tobi everything and Tobi in a sense BECAME a reflection of Madara himself. Obito is dead along with Rin during all this. I feel like if Kakashi clears the heavy air between Tobi and himself about Rin's death then maybe Tobi will turn back into Obito and stop this nonsense. *exhale* Okay, whatcha think?
I get what you're saying.
 

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he's got a point
he means :

Tobi (obito now) is not the 'obito' who kakashi knew before (he is not that obito anymore)

just compare this man to one who were always crying
he is easily top 5 now, back then he couldn't do a ****
Tobi is Tobi, the old obito
it was like the time jiraiya asked Nagato "just who the hell are you"
we are pain
 

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If people don't bother to read, they shouldn't bother to post. :sy:

I understand what you mean. Like the others said, it's like Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader. Yes, I felt that way myself. He even said in one chapter that they could call him Tobi or Madara, he didn' care. He was no one. People might take it as he was hiding his true identity, but he could have been implying Obito died when he "died" that day Madara found him. Tobi is what he became when he was "brought back to life"...
 
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