Obito is not Fodder, Neither is Kakashi

[EZQ]

I'm tired of Obito hate...

OBITO WITH KAMUI >>> YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTER OKAY?

Obito without kamui is around jonnin level that's it... and yes being weaker than Zabuza doesn't mean being fodder since zabuza is pretty strong too.

And kakashi is a top 15 ninja with kamui, and without kamui he is around zabuza's level wich i repeat is very high... so

Kakashi without MS >> Obito without Ms, but that doesn't mean being fodder since kakashi is a formidable opponents and if obito had kamui he'd raped

 

[S A G E]

Obito didn't even use this:

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[Katkot]

I totally agree

 

[COLOSSAL TITAN]

I'm tired of Obito hate...

OBITO WITH KAMUI >>> YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTER OKAY?

Obito without kamui is around jonnin level that's it... and yes being weaker than Zabuza doesn't mean being fodder since zabuza is pretty strong too.

And kakashi is a top 15 ninja with kamui, and without kamui he is around zabuza's level wich i repeat is very high... so

Kakashi without MS >> Obito without Ms, but that doesn't mean being fodder since kakashi is a formidable opponents and if obito had kamui he'd raped

Can't agree with that Kakashi is far above top 15..

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

It's just bad writing. The fact is even without Kamui he should have won.

 

[Imperfect]

Sasuke > Obito WITH Ms.

Kamui is a powerful technique, but alone all it can do is delay a fight, or move the fight to a different location.

Sasuke has a more diverse pool of jutsu and is better at using his Sharingan, yes he abused it in the Kage Summit arc, but he wanted revenge, at any cost.

Obito is good, but never say "OBITO WITH KAMUI >>> YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTER OKAY?".

You just look like a silly, fanboy. II at least gave a few reasons why Sasuke is better, you are applying your argument universally and it just doesn't work.

 

[EZQ]

Obito didn't even use this:

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That wouldn't have worked against kakashi dude, kakashi is very fast ... don't underrate him

 

[Oksus]

Obito didn't even use this:

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Thing is he doesn't even know how to use it. Wasn't he enraged when he did that ? Plus I am sure it takes a whole lot of chakra to do it, and Obito has been fighting for a really long time.

 

[NewKageism]

Are you on drugs zabuza?

Kakashi wooped Zabuza.

zabuza is a fighter but not top in fighting

 

[naruhina245]

Can't agree with that Kakashi is far above top 15..

True, Kakashi is a genius that graduated at the age of 5/6, right? well, he's SUPPOSED to be a genius, yet I haven't seen as much of it as I'd like....but still.

 

[EZQ]

Sasuke > Obito WITH Ms.

Kamui is a powerful technique, but alone all it can do is delay a fight, or move the fight to a different location.

Sasuke has a more diverse pool of jutsu and is better at using his Sharingan, yes he abused it in the Kage Summit arc, but he wanted revenge, at any cost.

Obito is good, but never say "OBITO WITH KAMUI >>> YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTER OKAY?".

You just look like a silly, fanboy. II at least gave a few reasons why Sasuke is better, you are applying your argument universally and it just doesn't work.

Sasuke > Obito.. hmmm

ROFLLOLLMAO LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[EZQ]

Are you on drugs zabuza?

Kakashi wooped Zabuza.

zabuza is a fighter but not top in fighting

Kakashi barely won dude, what manga did you read? And just because naruto and sasuke saved him from the water prision

 

[hixa kuogame]

People keep acting as though obito was going all out
He didn't use Mokuton
He didn't have kamui
He didn't even use a full power katon like he did on the SA
He couldn't use any outer paths
And he lost in a battle of taijutsu that's it
And he admitted he lost that battle but he was ready to jump back into the war to fight some more
People are taking it out of proportion

 

[6ari8]

I'm not sure why People are mad, Kakashi is a kage level Shinobi. He freaking took out most of the 7 ninja swordsmen and held his ground against a few edo Jinchuurikis. Obito just depended on his Kamui too much. Eitherway, I don't think Obito is dead yet, he will either revive Rin or use the Naraka path to heal himself somehow.

 

[Derek1st]

Kakashi is zabuzas level? Kakashi had a world wide reputation even before he got his Ms. He was the leaf's "number one tactition". A brain like shikimarus, perhaps the most diverse jutsu arsenal in the manga and absolute mastery of at least three elements. I may be a fanboy, but I think that the land of waves arc showed us that kakashi without ms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zabuza

 

[RNITBmsage]

even without kamui kakashi is still leaps and bounds ahead of zabuza

 

[MrDuck]

I'm not sure why People are mad, Kakashi is a kage level Shinobi. He freaking took out most of the 7 ninja swordsmen and held his ground against a few edo Jinchuurikis. Obito just depended on his Kamui too much. Eitherway, I don't think Obito is dead yet, he will either revive Rin or use the Naraka path to heal himself somehow.

I'm not sure if he can use Rinne Tensei on whoever he wishes though, but we'll see.

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi is zabuzas level? Kakashi had a world wide reputation even before he got his Ms. He was the leaf's "number one tactition". A brain like shikimarus, perhaps the most diverse jutsu arsenal in the manga and absolute mastery of at least three elements. I may be a fanboy, but I think that the land of waves arc showed us that kakashi without ms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zabuza

I believe zabuza is underrated, I mean zabuza would have killed kakashi in part1 after outsmarting him, but naruto and sasuke saved him...

Zabuza is elite jonnin level, while kakashi without kamui is in that same tier, with kamui he's high kage level tier

 

[Fodder#4]

I agree; but most people only are calling him fodder for the fun of it/being Kakashi fans with fangasms. I mean, he lived! Of course they are excited and gloating.

And yes, Zabuza's level as a high Jounin shinobi is nothing to frown upon. I appreciate you putting that in, instead of going the usual route and saying "He's not on some fodder like Zabuza's level."

Obito is still top five with it. Though, this speaks volumes on his exact control of mokuton and the rinnegan when not in a blood lusted state.

 

[NewKageism]

Kakashi barely won dude, what manga did you read? And just because naruto and sasuke saved him from the water prision

Here noob let me update you on why people know Zabuza is kids play to Kakashi

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