Obito feared Itachi more than he feared ANY ONE else
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Oh, but I did. Also, trolls aren't specifically known for reading so that wasn't a necessary inclusion.
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My nonsense? You said any sub-species and beyond. However, since I do not believe Itachi > Obito, does that make me a sub sub-species? I am clearly above, either of which you deem me as creates a contradiction with your statement which in itself renders your claim false.
Obito respected Itachi, but actually said that Hashirama was the one he respected most. Regardless, having a level of esteem for an individual is not an admittance of inferiority which is a logical flaw with this argument in which you have presented to me.
While on the subject, Itachi himself admitted inferiority to Obito while not even knowing the full extent of Obito's power. This renders your entire argument moot.
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Just a few things I'd like to point out...
-No, Itachi was not Obito's pawn. Itachi used him to help out in the Uchiha massacre. That's how Itachi benefitted and he could spy on Akatsuki from the inside. I doubt that Obito knew that Itachi was a double spy, he just knew that he was for Konoha and wanted to die by Sasuke's hands...just not the spying part.
-You say that Obito didn't care about Konoha, and yet he attacked it as a 14 year old for kicks basically and left Kurama there. :|
-No, apparently Obito was not capable of killing Itachi. Otherwise he would have and not halted his plans for 7 years of his life.
-If Obito could have killed Itachi at that time, he would have. Itachi didn't do everything that Akatsuki asked him to do. His one mission was to capture Naruto, and he didn't do that and Obito knew that he wouldn't. The one thing that we have Itachi confirmed as doing is helping seal the bijuus, but any other missing-nin with decent chakra control can take his place. Obito should have just killed Itachi (too bad that wasn't possible) and found a missing-nin that was actually for Akatsuki and that would want to capture Naruto. Not wait for Itachi to die and then continue what he wanted to do.
-Yeah. Itachi said that when he stated that he wanted Sasuke's eyes to surpass him...which was all a lie. Try again.
-Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was 13-14 and died at the age of 21. He was in the organization for 7-8 years, not 10. (Though at one point, Kishimoto did make an error and stated towards the end of pt1 that Oro left the day Itachi joined and that it had been 7 years since Akatsuki had assembled all together, but that's not accurate considering that Itachi wasn't a missing-nin as an 11 year old. He was 13 or 14 when he fought Orochimaru.)
-Well, Itachi being a spy and purposely not capturing Naruto isn't exactly helping Akatsuki.
-No. It's a canon fact that Itachi lied throughout his life. He lived a facade. It's not really "making stuff up" when it was proven that Itachi was lying about wanting Sasuke's eyes and that it wasn't his intention at all.
-Are we reading the same manga? Or do you just like to omit panels from your memory that don't agree with what you want to believe? Look at this Viz scan:
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After Kisame stated that he'd be of not much help, Itachi stated that even with more backup, the outcome wouldn't change. Key word here is more. That means not just Kisame, but others as well. That's a blatant lie. U_U
-No, Obito was not geared to kick Akatsuki's asses. He wouldn't stand a chance with Nagato, Itachi, Deidara, Sasori, Kakazu, Hidan, etc coming at him. He would die. He just got flustered when he saw Madara, because he realized that he'd have to explain himself to him and go through with the plan at his side.
-No, Obito would not have been able to send any combination of Akatsuki members he wanted after Itachi at that time. Kisame was on good terms with Itachi, they had a mutual respect for each other. Automatically rules him out. Obito did give Nagato orders, but the only way he was the leader is that he just gave them the idea of the Moon's Eye plan. Nagato just agreed with it and went along. Nagato called the shots in their eyes, considering that he was the most powerful one. How would Obito send any combination of Akatsuki after Itachi, when Hidan and Deidara didn't know he was the real leader. In fact, the only ones that were confirmed to have known were Itachi, Kisame, Konan, and Nagato, that's all. He wouldn't have been able to do that.
-Itachi was careful in Akatsuki because he didn't want to blow his cover, he didn't know that Obito knew the entire truth about him. That and if he attacked one Akatsuki member, the rest would gang up on him. He cannot handle all of them at once, no one could at the time, he was better off spying.
-Once again, Itachi was only in Akatsuki for 7-8 years. Also, he obviously had very limited interactions with Obito. The Akatsuki do travel in pairs, Itachi spent his time either totally alone or with Kisame. The only time they came together was when sealing bijuus. That doesn't give him much time to take out Obito, nor is it very possible to do so when the other members are around. Also doesn't help that Obito stayed away and hid techs from him. Also doesn't help when the members hadn't met together since Oro left...that takes away a significant amount of chances Itachi would have to take out Obito.
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(Note: This scan is an error by Kishimoto. It states 7 years, but that would make Itachi 11 at the time of fighting Oro. It should be 5 years, considering that Itachi was 13 when joining.) Also, if Itachi ever did confront Obito, considering that he would gain nothing from fighting Itachi at that time, except a beating, he could just escape and ditch the fight. He did the same with Minato lol.-If Obito were truly more powerful than Itachi, then he wouldn't go around blabbering things like this.
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And he stated this in front of Zetsu. It wasn't something empty that he just felt like saying, it was the truth. Then we have other panels like this which are not empty praise either...considering that he was thinking to himself and not saying it out loud to Sasuke.
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If MS Obito were really more powerful than Itachi, he would not have felt the need to hide his techs from him. Also doesn't help when in the RTN movie, (Kishimoto is the one who wrote the script for it and did all the character designs) Itachi mentions that he can still hurt Obito, regardless of kamui and Obito replies with:
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and then leaves. :/-No, Itachi's not evil nor a douche. Stop fapping to Obito. U_U Also not surprised that an Itachi hater is the one insulting an entire fanbase over just a few comments on one forum site. So saddening.
Also, I love the fact that you selected one of my comments to counter, when I wasn't even one of the people that stated Obito was afraid of Itachi. I don't think he was. Just cautious and that's normal. Any intelligent shinobi would be cautious of another.
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Please look at the context of the situation when a character makes a claim. Obito was pretending to be Madara at that point, hence why he said that about Hashirama. Obito hasn't even ever interacted with Hashirama.