Obito can use kamui without sharingan

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So it is pretty much manga fact now that susano can be used without sharingan as ridiculous as it sounds.
Just wanted you all to know, kamui has also been shown to used without a sharingan :

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At that time, obito didn't awaken MS but still madara said he could pass through rocks.
Also his eyes(which was under a rock) was close because if it was open it would have been crushed already. So yeah, don't call it a plot hole when kamui is used without sharingan.
Don't blame me its kishi logic and this is why the manga has gone downhill. He keeps bringing up sh!t and don't explain it.
 

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-Not having MS=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Eyes closed=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Kamui=/=Susanoo.

Thread makes no sense.
 

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If Madara has wireless Susanno , why can't Obito ?
 

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That was just a freaking terrible explanation on how Obito survived. How could he use Kamui and he didn't even have MS? Hell, the nigga ain't even have 3 tomoes
 

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-Not having MS=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Eyes closed=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Kamui=/=Susanoo.

Thread makes no sense.

i was bored.
Anyways then it means MS is not required to use kamui?

is that fine ?



btw Manga makes no sense either
 

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-Not having MS=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Eyes closed=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Kamui=/=Susanoo.

Thread makes no sense.

If this is referring to Madara, his eyes were not closed, they were gone. He had empty sockets.
 

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If this is referring to Madara, his eyes were not closed, they were gone. He had empty sockets.

Nah, OP said that Obito's eyes were closed like it had any relevance so that is what I was responding to.

i was bored.
Anyways then it means MS is not required to use kamui?

is that fine ?



btw Manga makes no sense either

lmao, tbh I have no idea how he slipped through those rocks. Obito didn't even have MS unlocked let alone not having activated at that point.

I can definitely agree with the bold.
 
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It has been shown already that Obito can use Kamui with 3T Sharingan on Konan's fight . This thread is irrelevant ,
 

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Yes, and I can boil water without heat/fire

by kishi logic yes why not.

People before so6p time could live without chakra but after so6p time, they suddenly became dependent on chakra and die without it.
 

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Kakashi cant cuz his eye doesn't match with his body .... but Obito can ... : something like this Itachi said ,about genes ,and relationship between uchiha blood and sharingan..." not my thought .. I believe this is bullshit
 
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-Not having MS=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Eyes closed=/=Not having Sharingan at all.

-Kamui=/=Susanoo.

Thread makes no sense.

on a second thought, If the eyes are closed it means the guy is not using any sharingan abilities.
You can't expect someone to use amaterasu or tsukiyomi or KA with his eyes closed.
Kakashi also activated his ms every time before using kamui and did it with his sharingan eye open.

So yeah, your eyes are supposed to be open to use sharingan ability .

As obito's eyes were closed at that point but still he passed through rocks suggests he used kamui without using the sharingan and my initial point still stands.
 

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He can control the Kyuubi using 3T, he can put a genjutsu on a Jin with 3T, he's been using Kamui with 3T up until Kakashi noticed that their eyes are connected.
 

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yes he can use it without his MS.

he could ripp out his eyes and still have all his MS techniques anyways.
 

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Noting is impossible in Kishi's manga.
 

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He didn't unlock the ability until Kakashi killed Rin, and it's only MS ability.

So how could he use it? His body was crushed anyway too, the fact that Zetsu merged with him proves that.​
 

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if you look ... the uchiha more young in despertar the mangekyo is obito :3 .. wiht 14 years ... he is the best uchiha :)
 
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