Obito and Itachi situation

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Kishi portrayed him as afraid whether you like it or not. Who wins in a battle is irrelevant. As for why Itachi didn't kill him, what part of pacifist don't you get? And anyway there is no plot if Obito died back then. Stupid question, stupid thread.
So his pacifism got in the way of his duty to kill an anti-Konoha international terrorist? No, Tobi was too elusive for Itachi to kill, and that's a fact.
If itachi tried any thing funny, he would get nailed by his black rikudou rod to the back.

Not even Kabuto wanted to fight Obito without using Edo Madara, putting itachi against the likes of him would be crazy.
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hiruzens obviously wrong.
most of itachis boneheaded dumb decisions happened after hiruzens death or were things he couldnt possibly have known about.


The simle answer is that Itachi knew he couldn't beat Obito so he made the best of his situation and tried to save sasuke from going to dark side.
wrong. itahci thought he could beat obito with that last amaterasu trap and all the other rest of his plans built themselves around the belief obito dies then and there.
itachi would like nothing more than for sauske ot be completely evil, just so long as he also is loyal to konoha. same with danzo. itachi knew he was evil, but danzo was a konoha shinobi so all was apparently swept under the rug.

As for why Itachi didn't kill him, what part of pacifist don't you get?
a pacifist massacres his own family? fail.
itahci was portrayed as someone who believes in killing the few to save the many, which is contradicted later on when he spares orochimaru and danzo for absolutely no reason, and then fails to do anything to stop akatsuki.
a pacifist wouldnt savagely mindrape and beat his brother into a coma.
if itachi thinks killing obito would fit in with all his other plans, he will do it. it did fit in, but he failed to do it. because he COULDNT.

If itachi kill obito, all you folks wouldn't be able to say DOUBLE KAMUI > EVERYTHING right now. So you should be thanking itachi for not soling the whole naruto's storyline!
by that logic, we should thank obito for aiding itachi in defeating the uchihas, for without him, itachis dead.

ou asking too much of a child that was only 14 years old at the time.
when said 14 year old is built up as a one of a kind genius and superpowered elite, not so much

Naruto would've end up becoming the next madara if he didn't listen to Itachi.
wrong. naruto is naruto and he would never fall to darkness, as shown by his lecturing of zabuza, gaara, nagato and chiyo.
only a severe idiot who hadnt read the last 550 chapters would think that was even a possibility.
if naruto was going to become the next obito, he would have before iruka befriended him and showed him the light. naruto says this multiple times.

i. Sasuke would be dead if kabuto didn't come.
which is kabutos doing, not itachi's

itachi done more than enough for the world.
itachi condemned the world ot destruction and declared war on huimanity, evne helping obito gain the power he needed to destroy everyone. itachi is evil and made sure that konoha didnt stand a chance.

, Itachi was looking at the bigger picture. I think he know about black zetsu and white zetsu. He saw that Obito is just a product of the pain caused in the world.
itachis a brutal insane murderous sociopath. he saw that the world will end in a catastrophic world war when bijuus get into akatsuki hands and didnt give two flying fuks, even aiding them and helping them.
he saw that he could end humanity by helping obito kill everyone and destroy the planet, and so did so.
he did absolutely nothing to even slow obito down for ten years, did nothing ot stop orochimaru. did nothing to stop danzo and made sure that sasuke went insane and became a raging supervillain.

. He's only killed when he absolutely had to or to keep up his cover.
hes killed for fun. as shown when he orders sasuke to slaughter innocent people because it would test if sasukes worthy enough to get MS. which is obvious toying and playing with innocent lives.
he had no cover because obito and nagato knew from the beginning he wasnt spying on anyone. konoha knew nothing.

He doesn't kill unless you are a direct threat at that moment
wrong. he doesnt kill because hes too cowardly and hypocritical to do what is necessary. no person who kills his own family and then lets evil psychopaths go, can be considered a pacifist or necessarily evil.

so, he set up that ama for Sasuke, becuase that would be the only time Obito was a direct threat
obito was a direct threat THE MOMENT HE ORDERED HIS GUYS TO KILL A JINCHURIKI IDIOT.
its not like he wanted that bijuu for shits and giggles. that should have been the moment itachi realised "oh crap these guys mean to start some shit and kill everyone"

e even had the chance to kill Kabuto and stated that he hated him, but didn't because he wanted to get him on the right path before he'd die. There was no need, but he did it anyway.
he had the chance to mercifully kill kabuto but didnt becaus ehe wanted to lock kabuto in a hellish illusion prison and torture him for eternity. no need but he did it anyway
Itachi could have killed the other Akatsuki members below Nagato and Obito, but he didn't. He probably knew that it wouldn't help.
he probably knew that his own selfish plans overpowers any heroic need to protect other innocent people.
"i dont kill unrepentent sociopaths who are capturing and murdering poeple in order to get their hands on WMD nukes and start a world war. it doesnt fit my plans guys!"

He's a pacifist.
hes a violent sadistic sociopath who raped his own brother brutally and horrifically in cold blood.

. He's not the "perfect" shinobi because he still has the capacity to feel pity and a ninja isn't supposed to, they're supposed to cut off all emotions and not care at all.
wrong. the perfect shinobi is in the eyes of the beholder, and whatever you decide it is.
hashirama decided its one who endures. naruto decided its one who keeps their word.
itachi didnt endure, he became a violent rapist.

The world might have been safer, yes. However, there's not alot of merit in that. Mainly because it would have dehumanized his character
a genocidal murderer will be "dehumanised" by continuing to murder people? huh?
it would simply be continuing what he was already doing, which is killing the few to save the many. not doing so is not heroic pacificism, its selfish hypocrisy.
you cant set yourself up as a man who is willing to slay his own family for "peace" and then turn around and say hes too nice to slaughter unrepentent madmen and sociopaths like oro and obito.
 

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I think itachi didn't kill him because, even though he could win in a fight, there were two reasons it was too risky

1: it was very easy to use the mangekyo too much just to have obito escape.
2: he had just enough eye sight left for sasuke, there's no way he would still have his sight if he used it on obito.
 

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Look, Itachi was more or less afraid of Obito, or at least knew he was stronger than him, more or less. Obito managed to take on Kakashi, Gai, Bee (a fully mastered jinchuriki) and Naruto (another fully mastered jinchuriki) all on his own. There's no way in hell Itachi would've stood a chance without at least Kakashi for kamui back-up.
 

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Kishi portrayed him as afraid whether you like it or not. Who wins in a battle is irrelevant. As for why Itachi didn't kill him, what part of pacifist don't you get? And anyway there is no plot if Obito died back then. Stupid question, stupid thread.
In character, even if Itachi was, apparently capable of taking on the friggin world (which Obito does) he'd have to be a real **** not to take out someone like Obito just because he's a "pacifist".
 
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Actually, Kishimoto thinks Itachi could at least deal with Kamui. Along with the hints from the manga, I think it's pretty much justified. Therefore, you're either a hater, or you like Obito too much. Either way, this thread is done.
 

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Itachi was afraid of Obito to the point he made traps for Obito even after his death, while Obito was being cautious.
He went so far as calling him an immortal and that he needed EMS to surpass an 1 eyed Obito.

Tbh, even 14 yr old Obito is stronger than any Itachi U_U
 
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Itachi was afraid of Obito to the point he made traps for Obito even after his death, while Obito was being cautious.
He went so far as calling him an immortal and that he needed EMS to surpass an 1 eyed Obito.

Tbh, even 14 yr old Obito is stronger than any Itachi U_U
Amazing post.

The fact that Itachi programmed Amaterasu into Sasuke doesn't mean he was afraid of Obito. He wanted Sasuke nothing to do with him.

Needing EMS to surpass 1 eyed Obito? That's fanfiction since it doesn't hold any factual grounds.

That last paragraph speaks about your comprehension for itself.
 

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Kishi portrayed him as afraid whether you like it or not. Who wins in a battle is irrelevant. As for why Itachi didn't kill him, what part of pacifist don't you get? And anyway there is no plot if Obito died back then. Stupid question, stupid thread.
1. Itachi murdered his entire family to save the village.

2. Itachi was made Anbu captain, the Anbu are a group of elite murderers.

3. Itachi captured and murdered Jinchuuriki.

He'd surely kill one man he didn't know to save the world. However, Itachi could not ever kill Obito and admitted he wasn't strong enough. Stop living in denial.

Amazing post.

The fact that Itachi programmed Amaterasu into Sasuke doesn't mean he was afraid of Obito. He wanted Sasuke nothing to do with him.

Needing EMS to surpass 1 eyed Obito? That's fanfiction since it doesn't hold any factual grounds.

That last paragraph speaks about your comprehension for itself.
The fact that he relied on a trap instead of doing it himself shows he was afraid.

Itachi stated it and nothing contradicts it, that's canon. Believing otherwise is fanfiction.

Don't be a hypocrite.
 
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Actually, Kishimoto thinks Itachi could at least deal with Kamui. Along with the hints from the manga, I think it's pretty much justified. Therefore, you're either a hater, or you like Obito too much. Either way, this thread is done.
Oh plz, don't even try to turn this into a VS thread, Obito shits on Itachi in terms of power.

what i'm saying is that Obito didn't even fear death neither as a child nor as an adult, so saying that Obito would be afraid of someone just cuz they might kill him is baseless. Even a dying Obito went up to Juubi Madara and told him to fk off.
 

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You asking too much of a child that was only 14 years old at the time. Fall back and leave him alone.
It's actually not, it just challenges your views.

yup. Beside, you're asking for itachi to kill Obito to end the whole naruto storyline. Why would you want that? If itachi kill obito, all you folks wouldn't be able to say DOUBLE KAMUI > EVERYTHING right now. So you should be thanking itachi for not soling the whole naruto's storyline!
Except that Itachi would lose.
 
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