Obito and Itachi: Analysis

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Where did you see anywhere that I belittle Obito? People think I hate Obito because I have arguments that defeat yours. Lol I actually like Obito. I just like to rustle-open Obitotards' eyes.

I've been a member there for a few months now. I don't see how that breaks my credibility if you're reading my posts carefully. :)

Oh just stop. I slammed you through a table and then you claimed I am a Itachi hater? Give one good reason why I would hate him? He is one of the most well developed Ninja,sad back story and overall the perfect Hokage and you say I hate him? Just stfu. I don't hate every character I go against.

And from now you are an IB troll and over time you will also believe Itachi>JJ Obito.
 

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Oh just stop. I slammed you through a table and then you claimed I am a Itachi hater? Give one good reason why I would hate him? He is one of the most well developed Ninja,sad back story and overall the perfect Hokage and you say I hate him? Just stfu. I don't hate every character I go against.

And from now you are an IB troll and over time you will also believe Itacho>JJ Obito.

How cute, he thinks he slammed me in the table. Yeah, trolls always beat the crap out of you in a debate. You're dismissed. Leave the debating to big guys from now on. Thanks.
 

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Oh just stop. I slammed you through a table and then you claimed I am a Itachi hater? Give one good reason why I would hate him? He is one of the most well developed Ninja,sad back story and overall the perfect Hokage and you say I hate him? Just stfu. I don't hate every character I go against.

And from now you are an IB troll and over time you will also believe Itachi>JJ Obito.

But you do hate/dislike Itachi though, I remember you said you disliked him in that 'which character do you dislike' thread. Lol
 

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And everybody knows how Kakashi soloed Obito in close combat.

Obito wanted kakashi to pierce him through the heart to remove the puppet seal, so that obito could become Jin. This is why he took Kakashi to the kamui dimension in the 1st place so he could get the seal removed without outside interference.

U need to reread manga.

And explain me how Obito can beat Itachi with one touch? Lmao joke of the year.

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I think u missed these manga scans, or simply don't have the mental capacity to understand it, either way not my problem.

like i said one touch = game over
 

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Obito wanted kakashi to pierce him through the heart to remove the puppet seal, so that obito could become Jin. This is why he took Kakashi to the kamui dimension in the 1st place so he could get the seal removed without outside interference.

U need to reread manga.



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I think u missed these manga scans, or simply don't have the mental capacity to understand it, either way not my problem.

like i said one touch = game over

You're underestimating Itachi's intelligence. The guy was canonically a genius at 7 years old. Do you think that Itachi would fall on Obito's tricks? I explained everything on my previous post, Itachi shits on Obito in intelligence, he is a far better strategist. And as I said, Obito can't use two abilities of Kamui at the same time. If he tries to teleport Itachi with him, he must become tangible to touch him, and do you really think that he is able to dominate Itachi like he did with that fodder ninja on that scan? Lmao, It would be a great oportunity to Itachi strike back. It is more a disadvantage to Obito than anything, since he becomes vulnerable.

It seems that you didn't read my former post, since you couldn't argue properly against everything I said.
 
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Yes, I did. With Kishimoto's fanfic about Itachi being superior to Obito gives us more "proof" of it than not having a Kishimoto's fanfic about it. I think you understand this quite well, but you choose to troll and act like you have an IQ of a stone. People told me you're a passionate Itachi hater and I can see now why.



Chakra doesn't have anything to do with basic movement speed. You decided that that was your reason for Itachi being able to keep up with Naruto. That's called selective reading, if we exclude assumptions. But to humor the argument, Naruto's chakra wasn't hindered in any way because he continued to fight many more fights after it without significant signs of fatigue which makes the argument moot.

Of course.
There are no assumptions. Chakra is the same as Stamina in NV. The more chakra you have, the better you move. Naruto ran out of chakra after Nagato's fight, hence his cloak disappearing. He later on was able to use the cloak because the kyuubi's chakra was replenished. It's by no means a moot argument.
 

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You're underestimating Itachi's intelligence. The guy was canonically a genius at 7 years old. Do you think that Itachi would fall on Obito's tricks? I explained everything on my previous post, Itachi shits on Obito in intelligence, he is a far better strategist. And as I said, Obito can't use two abilities of Kamui at the same time. If he tries to teleport Itachi with him, he must become tangible to touch him, and do you really think that he is able to dominate Itachi like he did with that fodder ninja on that scan? Lmao, It would be a great oportunity to Itachi strike back. It is more a disadvantage to Obito than anything, since he becomes vulnerable.

It seems that you didn't read my former post, since you couldn't argue properly against everything I said.

Itachi wasn't a genius at 7, he simply had the mind set of a hokage, which would be putting the village above family and clan.
 

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As great as Itachi was, this is real simple: obito was trained by madara and the 4th. So, by default, he's stronger than itachi. He can summon the 9tails, use rikudou jutsu, gedo mazo, mokuton, uchiha forbidden jutsu, etc. I like itachi but it is really no contest.

And that's before you realize that itachi would never be able to hurt obito. His amaterasu was also ineffective against obito.

Obito had a healthy respect and caution for itachi but I wouldn't translate that into any kind of fear. Obito, had he wanted to, could've beat itachi.
 

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Itachi wasn't a genius at 7, he simply had the mind set of a hokage, which would be putting the village above family and clan.

Actually if it wasn't for Shusiu, Itachi would not even have that goal. He learned it by his death.
 

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There are no assumptions. Chakra is the same as Stamina in NV. The more chakra you have, the better you move. Naruto ran out of chakra after Nagato's fight, hence his cloak disappearing. He later on was able to use the cloak because the kyuubi's chakra was replenished. It's by no means a moot argument.

That doesn't change the fact that it's moot. On the contrary, it's actually moot because he ran out of chakra after the fight, not before or during.
 

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That doesn't change the fact that it's moot. On the contrary, it's actually moot because he ran out of chakra after the fight, not before or during.
Lol he was already running low. Knowing that he would run out he restricted chakra usage. He barely barely used any techniques against Nagato and ran out. He had a tiny portion at the beginning of fight.
 

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Lol he was already running low. Knowing that he would run out he restricted chakra usage. He barely barely used any techniques against Nagato and ran out. He had a tiny portion at the beginning of fight.

You're assuming and creating your own definition of something that would back up your speculation. You simply can't know how low he was running out of chakra. He didn't show any signs of fatigue during the fight which makes your argument invalid.
 

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You're assuming and creating your own definition of something that would back up your speculation. You simply can't know how low he was running out of chakra. He didn't show any signs of fatigue during the fight which makes your argument invalid.
It's common sense. Naruto made kcm clones, already making a toll on Kurama and himself. He then tried to make more clones, and his cloak disappeared. He was running low, no matter how much you want to deny it.
 

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It's common sense. Naruto made kcm clones, already making a toll on Kurama and himself. He then tried to make more clones, and his cloak disappeared. He was running low, no matter how much you want to deny it.

It's not common sense. Common sense would be that his low chakra hindered his performance during the fight if he actually experienced it. The clones don't matter. He made a 1000 clones just to train, which he evidently did in a casual manner. One of Naruto's talents is a huge chakra pool. Pointing out the possibility of him running low on chakra without a proof is a little non-sensical.
 

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I dont know if i should interfere or not

You guys need a hand?
 

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I dont know if i should interfere or not

You guys need a hand?
You don't add anything serious. I'll doubt you'll be of help to anyone here
It's not common sense. Common sense would be that his low chakra hindered his performance during the fight if he actually experienced it. The clones don't matter. He made a 1000 clones just to train, which he evidently did in a casual manner. One of Naruto's talents is a huge chakra pool. Pointing out the possibility of him running low on chakra without a proof is a little non-sensical.
too bad it wasn't Naruto's own chakra, but Kurama's. Naruto wasn't at full power of his kcm because he had clones out. Evidence: when he ran out after the fight. End of the case. Hindrances are running low on chakra. He couldn't dish out the same attacks or move the same when he had a tiny portion of kyuubi's chakra left.
 

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You don't add anything serious. I'll doubt you'll be of help to anyone here

too bad it wasn't Naruto's own chakra, but Kurama's. Naruto wasn't at full power of his kcm because he had clones out. Evidence: when he ran out after the fight. End of the case. Hindrances are running low on chakra. He couldn't dish out the same attacks or move the same when he had a tiny portion of kyuubi's chakra left.

It doesn't matter because Kurama has very large supplies of chakra as well. You're starting to grasp for straws. Naruto always fights with clones and he can always have them out specifically because he can. Going by your logic, in almost each and every fight, Naruto was low on chakra and he wasn't fighting at his best. Which is ridiculous.
 
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