Obito and Itachi: Analysis

[Brünhild]

Okay and then Obito summons Kyuubi :|

Itachi's genjutsu is far superior to Obito's. He could "steal" Kyuubi.

 

[BLAZE]

Itachi's genjutsu is far superior to Obito's. He could "steal" Kyuubi.

No Obito had rekt a PJ with his genjutsu and Tsukyomi is not to control anyone

 

[Brünhild]

No Obito had rekt a PJ with his genjutsu and Tsukyomi is not to control anyone

What I was trying to say is that Kyuubi would fall more easily to Itachi's genjutsu than Obito's genjutsu, because Itachi's genjutsu >>> Obito's genjutsu.

 

[BLAZE]

What I was trying to say is that Kyuubi would fall more easily to Itachi's genjutsu than Obito's genjutsu, because Itachi's genjutsu >>> Obito's genjutsu.

r u serious
Obito's feat with Genjutsu is to Control and manipulate a perfect Jin with genjutsu over longer period of time
Only thing dat makes Itachi superior is Tsukiyomi which cannot control bijuu or anyone

 

[Brünhild]

r u serious
Obito's feat with Genjutsu is to Control and manipulate a perfect Jin with genjutsu over longer period of time
Only thing dat makes Itachi superior is Tsukiyomi which cannot control bijuu or anyone

Any Uchiha can control tailed beasts. Even without MS. It depends more of genjutsu's strength.

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[BLAZE]

Any Uchiha can control tailed beasts. Even without MS. It depends more of genjutsu's strength.

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He says Blessed with Eyes and Eyes include

 

[Narusenpou]

why then would he allow obito take out the clan with exception of his family

 

[Brünhild]

There is no need to explain anything, this isn't a Itachi vs Minato scenerio where speculation and analysis are needed due to Kishi not saying who would win in a fight between the two. This is Itachi vs Obito in which Kishi has already stated who would win in the manga through Obito's words. Kishi knows what each characters abilities are he made them, he understands everything about them.
Kishi words don't need an explanation point blank, there is nothing to explain the answer is right there in front your face.
Ignorance is Bliss./Thread

No, it's your make believe misinterpretation. You're not Kishimoto, you can't say the manga is wrong. It's cute how you have to use vulgar language when your backed up against a corner with nothing to say, just shows immaturity and how incapable you are to be credible or taken serious in any form.
XD Thank you for making me laugh with your response, just what I needed. ^.^
Ignorance is Bliss./Threadx2

This guy soloed the thread.

 

[synkross]

Obito can remain intangible for only five minutes at maximum and he must become tangible to teleport and attack his opponents, which gives an opportunity to counterattack. That's why he almost was stomped by Konan, at the exact time he was going to teleport, he became tangible and Konan threw her paper bombs on him. And let's suppose he can phase through Yata and Susanoo, to attack Itachi he must become tangible and Itachi would take advantage on that.

-There is nothing in Itachi's arsenal that can force Obito go full intangible for 5 mins straight, also Obito can easily reset the timer by becoming tangible again for just a moment, and repeat the whole process.

-Shadow clones? Obito can simply expel out anything from kamui dimension at will.

-Itachi also lacks the chakra level to keep up with Obito's monstrous stamina.

-Itachi using susanoo will only go in Itachi's disadvantage, cuz it will be a huge toll on Itachi to maintain it also Yata mirror and Totsuka gets fodderized by kamui troll.

-Obito's genjutsu feats rivals that of Kotoamatsukami, putting a perfect jin in genjutsu for years >>> anything Itachi displayed.

-Combine it with the fact that Obito literally needs one touch to beat Itachi while Itachi has no teleportation to get away from it.


Plus Katon,Mokuton, Inyotun, 6paths justsu,Rikudo's jutsu, Black rods, Uchiha kaenjin(simply put Itachi in a cage and chill out)

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The power Gap between Obito and Itachi is just too much to be honest.

And if by some Holy Intervention everything goes to shyt.......

Iza-fkin-nagi

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[RasenUchihaChaos]

Here we go again power power power alone does not decide a battle otherwise a lot of characters be dead was konan more powerful then obito no yet who got wasted like a punk oh yea obito

Who thought with kamui they were going to beat the 4th oh yea obito

What you don't understand and kabuto points out is this is itachi he would like konan figure a way out to deal with kamui and kill obito


Sakura somewhat figured kamui and I'm not saying she beat obito

Konan mianto and Sakura all analyzed kamui mianto almost killed him same with konan obito should be glad minato didn't time his ftg with an RDS yet people think itachi would not figure out kamui and find a way to deal with it based on his arsenal

Completely ignoring his intellect

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Obito with both of his original sharingan eyes is a broken character. I don't see many defeating him.

 

[Romy9]

Nice thread, but it once again proves that Obito's feats rely on Kamui in most cases. Kamui isn't instant and you heavily underestimate Itachi's speed.

You don't realize that the outcome of their battle would be decided on the most basic abilities, such as speed of reflexes, speed in general, in which Itachi excels. I won't go into digression of Itachi being sick or Obito being on Hashi's juice, I take them as Kishimoto created them. Itachi showed feats in terms of speed that even a Sharingan can't follow.

His speed is definitely an advantage. Tsukuyomi can cripple him if not trap him for a larger period of time. Susanoo is useless obviously because of Kamui. It's all a speculation but nice effort.

 

[synkross]

Here we go again power power power alone does not decide a battle otherwise a lot of characters be dead was konan more powerful then obito no yet who got wasted like a punk oh yea obito

Who thought with kamui they were going to beat the 4th oh yea obito

What you don't understand and kabuto points out is this is itachi he would like konan figure a way out to deal with kamui and kill obito


Sakura somewhat figured kamui and I'm not saying she beat obito

Konan mianto and Sakura all analyzed kamui mianto almost killed him same with konan obito should be glad minato didn't time his ftg with an RDS yet people think itachi would not figure out kamui and find a way to deal with it based on his arsenal

Completely ignoring his intellect

Figuring something out and having the means/ability to deal with it are totally different things.

-In Minato's case, he had FTG v2, which is probably the only counter to Kamui besides Kamui.

-In Konan's case, she had years to study Obito's abilities and was preparing for God knows how long to deal with it.

-Itachi on the other had niether has the initial intel on Obito's abilities nor does he have the means to Escape the wrap. Minato would've been done at the very 1st touch if it wasn't for FTG.

-Itachi can not afford such luxury so the chances of itachi figuring out that Obito can wrap the instant he lays his hand on something are minimal before He is already in Kamui dimension and its over.

-Now lets say even if itachi figures out that obito can wrap (without having seen obito wrap something...duh) which doesn't make sense but still if i agree with u that itachi has figured it out....

He still can't do jack shyt about it and YES i'm saying that by looking at his fking aresnal which does not contain anything remotely effective to be used against kamui or even escape the fkin ninja wrap

Itachi simply lacks the power to put obito down even if he manages to hit him via genius-no-jutsu, Obito can take massive dmg and still get back up.
the dude has taken multiple rasengans to face,arms,back,ripped,sliced, stabbed,got exploded to death, and still gets back up.....

yea, killing obito without plot isn't that easy cuz he can always get the fk out at the last second to fight another day.

Again, I know itachi is smart but even with that, his arsenal has nothing to effectively counter Obito and put him down for good.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

We don't know, but I think he could if he was 100% healthy.

If you don't know why are you spouting BS?

> He makes a shadow clone.
> Obito sends it to the Kamui dimension.
> Itachi proceeds to beat the living shit out of him.

Stupidity at its peak. Obito immediately spits the clone

> He can't tell the clone from the original.

Madara knew Naruto was a clone

> He won't be trying to destroy Itachi. Rather, to send him to the Kamui dimension and let him die there, so he can get his eyes.

When has Obito ever shown interest in Itachi's eyes?

> Fact is, he's going to do the same thing he always attempts. Kamui.

Or he summons Bijuu

Him, not trying to send Itachi to the Kamui dimension is completely out of character. This is what he would do, and he would pay dearly for it. Sorry mate.

Stop assuming shit

Minato was faster than Itachi, but Itachi is very fast too. A prove is that he was on pair with Naruto in taijutsu:

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And Itachi can use a bunshin or his dusk crow genjutsu to fool Obito until he can't use anymore his intangibility. Or he can strike back when Obito tries to attack him, he is fast enough for that.

Lmao
Obito was manhandling KCM Naruto until Gai and Kakashi saved him

Nice thread, but it once again proves that Obito's feats rely on Kamui in most cases. Kamui isn't instant and you heavily underestimate Itachi's speed.

You don't realize that the outcome of their battle would be decided on the most basic abilities, such as speed of reflexes, speed in general, in which Itachi excels. I won't go into digression of Itachi being sick or Obito being on Hashi's juice, I take them as Kishimoto created them. Itachi showed feats in terms of speed that even a Sharingan can't follow.

His speed is definitely an advantage. Tsukuyomi can cripple him if not trap him for a larger period of time. Susanoo is useless obviously because of Kamui. It's all a speculation but nice effort.

Good God stfu.
Obito has Bijuu,Healing,Mokuton,Powerfl Katon,Black Rods,Juubi,Rikudo Chakra,Strength,Speed and Kamui.

Itachi has
Amatersu - Obito took a dump on it

Tsukyuomi - Lmao that shit doesn't work on MS users and 3t Sauce negged it

Susanoo - That shit lasts for 5 minutes and its a pointless Jutsu to use on a person who can pass through it

Izanami - Obito will kill him before he can record moves

Now go back to your Itachi fap dungeon

 

[Romy9]

Good God stfu.
Obito has Bijuu,Healing,Mokuton,Powerfl Katon,Black Rods,Juubi,Rikudo Chakra,Strength,Speed and Kamui.

Itachi has
Amatersu - Obito took a dump on it

Tsukyuomi - Lmao that shit doesn't work on MS users and 3t Sauce negged it

Susanoo - That shit lasts for 5 minutes and its a pointless Jutsu to use on a person who can pass through it

Izanami - Obito will kill him before he can record moves

Now go back to your Itachi fap dungeon

It seems I have to put down this retard.

If you were intelligent enough, you'd know I and majority of people talk about Obito as a non-jin. Did you read that carefully? Read it again, just in case your short-term memory fades the **** away.

Amaterasu is irrelevant anyway since it's not instant.

Your assumptions are, not only stupid, but purely biased as well. Another Sharingan can defeat Tsukuyomi but it's not completely resistant to it. That's why Sasuke fell for it before he broke out, you ignorant dolt.

You really can't read, can you, illiterate incarnate? I said the exact same thing.

Huh? "Obito will kill him before he can record moves"? The **** is that shit supposed to be? An ignorant assumption. Proves how much you don't know or underestimate Itachi's speed.

Was that all? Dismissed.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

It seems I have to put down this retard.

If you were intelligent enough, you'd know I and majority of people talk about Obito as a non-jin. Did you read that carefully? Read it again, just in case your short-term memory fades the **** away.

Even pre Jin Obito still has overwhelming Jutsu that Itachi cannot fathom. Wheather it's Kurama,6 Bijuu,Gedo Mazo or The Rikudo Chakra he got from Madara he still neg stomps Itachi. If you you honestly believe Itachi has a chance against Bijuu then you might as well live in a mental asylum.

Amaterasu is irrelevant anyway since it's not instant.

Your assumptions are, not only stupid, but purely biased as well. Another Sharingan can defeat Tsukuyomi but it's not completely resistant to it. That's why Sasuke fell for it before he broke out, you ignorant dolt.

Stop comparing 3T Sasuke to Obito and Obito's eyes are enhanced greatly to the point he would eat Tsukyuomi like cake. Now a better question is how long Itachi would take to break Obito's Genjutsu seeing as how a Perfect Jinchuriki couldn't.

You really can't read, can you, illiterate incarnate? I said the exact same thing.

Huh? "Obito will kill him before he can record moves"? The **** is that shit supposed to be? An ignorant assumption. Proves how much you don't know or underestimate Itachi's speed.

Was that all? Dismissed.

Are you on Acid? Do you see the Manga the way you want it to? Itachi's biggest speed feat is besting a KCM Naruto who wasn't even fighting seriously. That doesn't even come close to a person who was faster than Minato's FTG Lv 1. And stop using Itachi vs KCM Naruto as examples when Obito was god stomping him until Kakashi and Gai saved him.

And yes Izanami is a risky Jutsu. Itachi took advantage of his Edo Body to cast it on Kabuto and even then he was getting chopped up and would have lost if not for Sasuke.

Its amazing how you have not won a Fanfiction award.

 

[Romy9]

Even pre Jin Obito still has overwhelming Jutsu that Itachi cannot fathom. Wheather it's Kurama,6 Bijuu,Gedo Mazo or The Rikudo Chakra he got from Madara he still neg stomps Itachi. If you you honestly believe Itachi has a chance against Bijuu then you might as well live in a mental asylum.


Stop comparing 3T Sasuke to Obito and Obito's eyes are enhanced greatly to the point he would eat Tsukyuomi like cake. Now a better question is how long Itachi would take to break Obito's Genjutsu seeing as how a Perfect Jinchuriki couldn't.


Are you on Acid? Do you see the Manga the way you want it to? Itachi's biggest speed feat is besting a KCM Naruto who wasn't even fighting seriously. That doesn't even come close to a person who was faster than Minato's FTG Lv 1. And stop using Itachi vs KCM Naruto as examples when Obito was god stomping him until Kakashi and Gai saved him.

And yes Izanami is a risky Jutsu. Itachi took advantage of his Edo Body to cast it on Kabuto and even then he was getting chopped up and would have lost if not for Sasuke.

Its amazing how you have not won a Fanfiction award.

Not really. Kamui isn't as overwhelming as you Obitards think it is. You need to re-learn the mechanics of Kamui so you could know what weaknesses it has. Of course, you won't do that. On the off chance you do it, you probably won't understand it because you're a borderline retard, judging from your posts. The fact that you keep bringing a Bijuu into this shows your deeper understanding of Itachi being superior to him if he were to fight alone.


That's your assumption, dolt, and you have the nerve to call my shit fanfiction. Obito's feats with genjutsu are non-existent. What in the flying **** are you reading?


And Itachi was being manipulated like a puppet by Kabuto. Your arguments don't work, I told you already in the other thread.

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Here you can see another speed feat which was so fast Kishimoto didn't include it in a panel. This is why I say basic speed of Itachi is heavily underestimated and not fathomed by illiterate idiots like you. I can't imagine how it would end if he was actually serious.

I don't care about Izanami. Itachi has stats and abilities which don't require him to stoop down to that crap.

It's amazing how you passed a first grade in elementary school.

 

[Hàdes1]

Can Itachi maintain Susanoo for 5 mins :|

And that was sick near dead itachi

If he startes with susanoo from the beginning he could maintain it for like 15 mins

 

[Lord Tywin]

Nice thread, but it once again proves that Obito's feats rely on Kamui in most cases. Kamui isn't instant and you heavily underestimate Itachi's speed.

You don't realize that the outcome of their battle would be decided on the most basic abilities, such as speed of reflexes, speed in general, in which Itachi excels. I won't go into digression of Itachi being sick or Obito being on Hashi's juice, I take them as Kishimoto created them. Itachi showed feats in terms of speed that even a Sharingan can't follow.

His speed is definitely an advantage. Tsukuyomi can cripple him if not trap him for a larger period of time. Susanoo is useless obviously because of Kamui. It's all a speculation but nice effort.

So let's restrict Kamui, right? Yes I'd say Itachi's speed is insufficient because Obito had no problem with 4 Kage level ninjas. Well until the decided to use Kamui. Not a single person outside of Minato(ftg) and kakashi(Kamui) even managed to do anything. Minato because of teleportation, and Kakashi because of another kamui. Itachi lacks both.

*Hebi Sasuke's sharingan*. Obito was laughing at Raikage and Kcm Naruto, who're by feat faster than Itachi.

Genjutsu won't going to do anything to Obito. Itachi canonically stated that someone with his blood can counter it. Uchihas are from the same blood. He sees past every genjutsu like nothing.

@everyone, why do I feel like I'm restating what's already there in op? Read the thread and if you have something to contribute, then come forth.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Not really. Kamui isn't as overwhelming as you Obitards think it is. You need to re-learn the mechanics of Kamui so you could know what weaknesses it has. Of course, you won't do that. On the off chance you do it, you probably won't understand it because you're a borderline retard, judging from your posts. The fact that you keep bringing a Bijuu into this shows your deeper understanding of Itachi being superior to him if he were to fight alone.


That's your assumption, dolt, and you have the nerve to call my shit fanfiction. Obito's feats with genjutsu are non-existent. What in the flying **** are you reading?


And Itachi was being manipulated like a puppet by Kabuto. Your arguments don't work, I told you already in the other thread.

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Here you can see another speed feat which was so fast Kishimoto didn't include it in a panel. This is why I say basic speed of Itachi is heavily underestimated and not fathomed by illiterate idiots like you. I can't imagine how it would end if he was actually serious.

I don't care about Izanami. Itachi has stats and abilities which don't require him to stoop down to that crap.

It's amazing how you passed a first grade in elementary school.

Omfg look at this mountain of utter garbage. Itachi fans truly get sexual pleasure in spouting nonsense. And I have no idea why you are using those Manga panels when Obito is obviously faster than Kakashi,Kurenai and Asuma.

The accomplishments you've ever done is writing fanfiction.
Stop overrating Itachi when his feats are pure garbage.