Obito and Itachi: Analysis

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There is no need to explain anything, this isn't a Itachi vs Minato scenerio where speculation and analysis are needed due to Kishi not saying who would win in a fight between the two. This is Itachi vs Obito in which Kishi has already stated who would win in the manga through Obito's words. Kishi knows what each characters abilities are he made them, he understands everything about them.
Kishi words don't need an explanation point blank, there is nothing to explain the answer is right there in front your face.
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Misinterpretation of the words spoken by Obito. I explained it it OP. Go ahead, say the same bullshit again, since the only thing you guys can come up with is that. Fears suggest that Obito>Itachi, but you're free to believe that Itachi can win.
 

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In DB it was stated that Obito didn't use Kamui when he was with Akatsuki members.
It also seems like you don't understand a single word I'm saying. Let me say it for the last time. Itachi doesn't have Minato's speed to overcome Kamui's speed, nor can he attack Obito for 5 minutes Continuously.

It seems that you aren't understanding what I'm saying. I know Minato is faster than Itachi, but what I'm trying to say is that Minato figured out Kamui's disadvantages, as well as Konan did. And even if Obito didn't use Kamui when he was with Akatsuki members, Konan was able to discover his technique's weakness, and I will repeat again, if Itachi was dealing with his enemies, he probably tried to find out about Obito's techniques too, he wasn't a fool.

And I know Itachi can't attack Obito for 5 minutes continuously, but if Obito tries to attack him with any jutsu, Itachi could strike back to defend himself and possibly even hurt Obito in the process, since he becomes tangible while attacking. Obito has a chance if he goes behind Itachi and tries to stab him as he did with Konan, but she was caught off guard. Itachi is smart enough to prevent this.
 

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Tbh, The Crow Clones and Shunshin approach is a good way to "counter" Kamui's intangibility. :|
 

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It seems that you aren't understanding what I'm saying. I know Minato is faster than Itachi, but what I'm trying to say is that Minato figured out Kamui's disadvantages, as well as Konan did. And even if Obito didn't use Kamui when he was with Akatsuki members, Konan was able to discover his technique's weakness, and I will repeat again, if Itachi was dealing with his enemies, he probably tried to find out about Obito's techniques too, he wasn't a fool.

And I know Itachi can't attack Obito for 5 minutes continuously, but if Obito tries to attack him with any jutsu, Itachi could strike back to defend himself and possibly even hurt Obito in the process, since he becomes tangible while attacking. Obito has a chance if he goes behind Itachi and tries to stab him as he did with Konan, but she was caught off guard. Itachi is smart enough to prevent this.
Yet Itachi's attempt at Amaterasu failed. Kamui's weakness is speed and the other ability of Kamui. Itachi has neither. Case closed.
Nor does he need it
If you don't have Minato's speed, or Kamui, you can't beat Obito, unless you're significantly stronger than him, like Juubi jin Madara or rsm Naruto.
Tbh, The Crow Clones and Shunshin approach is a good way to "counter" Kamui's intangibility. :|
Because those techniques are on par with ftg, or come even remotely close to surprising Obito and hindering his reaction speed. You know better than that, Gobb.
 
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Misinterpretation of the words spoken by Obito. I explained it it OP. Go ahead, say the same bullshit again, since the only thing you guys can come up with is that. Fears suggest that Obito>Itachi, but you're free to believe that Itachi can win.

No, it's your make believe misinterpretation. You're not Kishimoto, you can't say the manga is wrong. It's cute how you have to use vulgar language when your backed up against a corner with nothing to say, just shows immaturity and how incapable you are to be credible or taken serious in any form.
XD Thank you for making me laugh with your response, just what I needed. ^.^
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No, it's your make believe misinterpretation. You're not Kishimoto, you can't say the manga is wrong. It's cute how you have to use vulgar language when your backed up against a corner with nothing to say, just shows immaturity and how incapable you are to be credible or taken serious in any form.
XD Thank you for making me laugh with your response, just what I needed. ^.^
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Manga is open to interpretation. You interpret it as Obito admitting inferiority, while I interpret it as something else. You were already backed up in the corner when you didn't bring up anything to support your claim, only the misinterpreted portion of the manga.
 

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Well this is a very nice analysis. Itachi never undrestimates his enemies and always studies them even saying that every jutsu has a weakness. But if Kamui' only weakness is speed then Im afraid Obito has more chances than Itachi indeed. If Itachi had Amenotejikara it would probably compensate that speed.
 

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Because those techniques are on par with ftg, or come even remotely close to surprising Obito and hindering his reaction speed. You know better than that, Gobb.

No. But if a crow clone goes to attack, Obito goes intangible and the crow clone disperses in the midst Itachi Shunshin's and attacks. It's a viable option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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No. But if a crow clone goes to attack, Obito goes intangible and the crow clone disperses in the midst Itachi Shunshin's and attacks. It's a viable option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lol how does that bypass his intangibility when Obito's using kamui?
 

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Manga is open to interpretation. You interpret it as Obito admitting inferiority, while I interpret it as something else. You were already backed up in the corner when you didn't bring up anything to support your claim, only the misinterpreted portion of the manga.
Denial, you can't go against facts. Re-read my previous posts since you can't comprehend anything reading it the first time around.
Ignorance is Bliss. I already proved my case, I was expecting better from you.
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Lol how does that bypass his intangibility when Obito's using kamui?

Obito usually only uses intangibility for enough time for the attacks to phase through. :|
 

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Obito usually only uses intangibility for enough time for the attacks to phase through. :|
And Obito's shunshin is enough to catch Obito off guard? Come on
Denial, you can't go against facts. Re-read my previous posts since you can't comprehend anything reading it the first time around.
Ignorance is Bliss. I already proved my case, I was expecting better from you.
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Quite ironic for the guy that says: "Ignorance is Bliss." But let's leave it at that Lol
 

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And Obito's shunshin is enough to catch Obito off guard? Come on

Maybe. :skorm:

But, seriously tho, MS Obito takes more than not and War Arc >.
 

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Yet Itachi's attempt at Amaterasu failed. Kamui's weakness is speed and the other ability of Kamui. Itachi has neither. Case closed.

If you don't have Minato's speed, or Kamui, you can't beat Obito, unless you're significantly stronger than him, like Juubi jin Madara or rsm Naruto.

Because those techniques are on par with ftg, or come even remotely close to surprising Obito and hindering his reaction speed. You know better than that, Gobb.

Itachi has a good speed, not like Minato's, but he has. For example, Kakashi couldn't keep up with his handseals. And Konan was able to hit him with paper bombs while teleporting before he was caught in that ocean of explosives. If Obito tries taijutsu on Itachi, for example, he could strike back to defend himself. Even if Obito tries to use mokuton on Itachi, he could be able to strike back with Susanoo. Besides that, if Obito doesn't try to attack Itachi (which is a disadvantage to Obito, because he becomes vulnerable) he would keep playing with Kamui during 5 minutes until he loses it, so Itachi could take advantage on that.
 
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