Obito and Itachi: Analysis

[Kaneki Kun]

Why go against the manga, stop trying to find a way around it or give an explanation on how it's not true.
Itachi>Obito

 

[Lord Tywin]

Why go against the manga, stop trying to find a way around it or give an explanation on how it's not true.
Itachi>Obito

Lol I'm not even going to bother with your kind

This is true he cant spam his ninjutsu as much as he could whole but his taijutsu seemed unhindered which is y u can take that exchange verbatim

Even if his Taijutsu is not affected, the same Naruto, while serious, was helpless against Obito.

 

[Made in Heaven]

See the first panel

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What's your point? He's still on the defensive, not using any sort of attacks or even attempting to fight back. He's merely blocking.

 

[BLAZE]

What's your point? He's still on the defensive, not using any sort of attacks or even attempting to fight back. He's merely blocking.

Pulls out fanfic dat Naruto is on defensive with nothing to support it
Calls it blocking after seeing the panel of him punching and kicking

 

[Brünhild]

Not even 4 kage level shinobis could attack him for 5 minutes straight. They had to use their own kamui to barely phase Obito.
Itachi would never know when Obito's tangible or not. He has no way of finding out. We've already seen how Obito tricks his opponent with Kamui, putting up decoys, or faking attacks to make opponents vulnerable.
As you're saying, Genjutsu, which would be ineffective against a seasoned MS user.

Yet he has to be cautious into using his chakra and techniques, automatically restricting him.

As I said before, Itachi worked with Obito for a long time in the same organization, and since he was there to spy Akatsuki, he probably tried to find out about Obito's techniques, he wasn't a fool, because he was dealing with his enemies while pretending to be one of them. If he didn't know about that, he would figure out somehow while fighting Obito. Minato figured out when Obito became tangible, why Itachi can't? And I'm sure Obito wouldn't be able to fool Itachi, he is smart enough to realize his tricks.

 

[Lord Tywin]

As I said before, Itachi worked with Obito for a long time in the same organization, and since he was there to spy Akatsuki, he probably tried to find out about Obito's techniques, he wasn't a fool, because he was dealing with his enemies while pretending to be one of them. If he didn't know about that, he would figure out somehow while fighting Obito. Minato figured out when Obito became tangible, why Itachi can't? And I'm sure Obito wouldn't be able to fool Itachi, he is smart enough to realize his tricks.

In DB it was stated that Obito didn't use Kamui when he was with Akatsuki members.
It also seems like you don't understand a single word I'm saying. Let me say it for the last time. Itachi doesn't have Minato's speed to overcome Kamui's speed, nor can he attack Obito for 5 minutes Continuously.

 

[BLAZE]

In DB it was stated that Obito didn't use Kamui when he was with Akatsuki members.
It also seems like you don't understand a single word I'm saying. Let me say it for the last time. Itachi doesn't have Minato's speed to overcome Kamui's speed, nor can he attack Obito for 5 minutes Continuously.

BS
used when Sasky tried bisect him

 

[To Whatever]

Pulls out fanfic dat Naruto is on defensive with nothing to support it
Calls it blocking after seeing the panel of him punching and kicking

You can parry attacks with kicks and punches :|

But it looks like he was on the defensive for the most part.

 

[Kaneki Kun]

Lol I'm not even going to bother with your kind

Even if his Taijutsu is not affected, the same Naruto, while serious, was helpless against Obito.

That I'm stating the truth? You can argue all the day how Obito can "beat" Itachi but at the end of the day the manga says otherwise. Kishi's manga>Your assumptions
Oh please feel free to argue with me on the manner, I need a good laugh right now.

 

[BA5ED]

Lol I'm not even going to bother with your kind

Even if his Taijutsu is not affected, the same Naruto, while serious, was helpless against Obito.

True but Itachi isn't Naruto

 

[Lord Tywin]

BS
used when Sasky tried bisect him

I meant to type the original members, except Zetsu and Pain. Basically the foot soldiers.

 

[BLAZE]

You can parry attacks with kicks and punches :|

But it looks like he was on the defensive for the most part.

Naruto had Vastly superfast speed due to KCM cloak and superhaxxed sensing
if he was defensive he should have done it easily buut it wasn't the case

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I meant to type the original members, except Zetsu and Pain. Basically the foot soldiers.

Dosen't look like it as he resorted to Kamui pretty often in battles as tobi

 

[Lord Tywin]

Naruto had Vastly superfast speed due to KCM cloak and superhaxxed sensing
if he was defensive he should have done it easily buut it wasn't the case

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Dosen't look like it as he resorted to Kamui pretty often in battles as tobi

He didn't fight anyone in front of Akatsuki members.

 

[To Whatever]

Naruto had Vastly superfast speed due to KCM cloak and superhaxxed sensing
if he was defensive he should have done it easily buut it wasn't the case

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As fast as KCM Naruto is, he still isn't used to it:

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His sensing in KCM only covers Negative emotions. He can feel killing intent, but when you know the person you're fighting is trying to harm you, it isn't really helpful.
I mean, I know he dodged Ay at full speed with no TSM but Ay telegraphed that punch.

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[Kaneki Kun]

Yes, and Itachi doesn't have the combined power of Naruto, Kakashi, Gai, and Bee

Already explained "kishi's words" for you, but you're too simple to understand.

There is no need to explain anything, this isn't a Itachi vs Minato scenerio where speculation and analysis are needed due to Kishi not saying who would win in a fight between the two. This is Itachi vs Obito in which Kishi has already stated who would win in the manga through Obito's words. Kishi knows what each characters abilities are he made them, he understands everything about them.
Kishi words don't need an explanation point blank, there is nothing to explain the answer is right there in front your face.
Ignorance is Bliss./Thread

 

[BLAZE]

He didn't fight anyone in front of Akatsuki members.

Ah yeah thanks

As fast as KCM Naruto is, he still isn't used to it:

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Second is clone

 

[Chazzi]

There is no need to explain anything, this isn't a Itachi vs Minato scenerio where speculation and analysis are needed due to Kishi not saying who would win in a fight between the two. This is Itachi vs Obito in which Kishi has already stated who would win in the manga through Obito's words. Kishi knows what each characters abilities are he made them, he understands everything about them.
Kishi words don't need an explanation point lank, there is nothing to explain the answer is right there in front your face.
Ignorance is Bliss./Thread

Thread rekt. GG.
Itachi > Obito.

 

[BA5ED]

Yes, and Itachi doesn't have the combined power of Naruto, Kakashi, Gai, and Bee

He has the brains and the tools to beat Obito

 

[To Whatever]

Ah yeah thanks


Second is clone

A clone with about the same experience using KCM as the original.

I'm sure he gained proficiency in managing his speed after his clones dispersed but during that fight with Itachi, he couldn't handle it.

 

[BLAZE]

A clone with about the same experience using KCM as the original.

nardo used multiple clones
and kcm clones can't perform many of the feats original naruto can