Obito and Itachi: Analysis

[Brünhild]

Minato had speed to counter Kamui and Konan had time to prepare a counter-attack... Against Kamui, only intelligence doesn't work...

Minato was faster than Itachi, but Itachi is very fast too. A prove is that he was on pair with Naruto in taijutsu:

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And Itachi can use a bunshin or his dusk crow genjutsu to fool Obito until he can't use anymore his intangibility. Or he can strike back when Obito tries to attack him, he is fast enough for that.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Good joke


Taijutsu exchange during nagato fight

That was the REAL Itachi versus the real version of Naruto, who was 1/12 of his max power due to sending out clones to each battlefield.

Minato was faster than Itachi, but Itachi is very fast too. A prove is that he was on pair with Naruto in taijutsu:

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And Itachi can use a bunshin or his dusk crow genjutsu to fool Obito until he can't use anymore his intangibility. Or he can strike back when Obito tries to attack him, he is fast enough for that.

Oh wait, the same Naruto who was helpless against Obito.
These clone and genjutsu arguments are desperate Lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

I don't need to as Obito can't tell the difference.

Naruto doesn't have 3T precog either, unlike Itachi's clones.

Please, this clone warping hopes are too dreamy, Obito does never warp when clones are present.

 

[BLAZE]

And Itachi can use a bunshin or his dusk crow genjutsu to fool Obito until he can't use anymore his intangibility. Or he can strike back when Obito tries to attack him, he is fast enough for that.

Bunshin is terrible move
it will cut his Chakra reserve to half

 

[Trúth]

Truth
but Nardo has superhaxxed KCM sening doe

He's limited to sensing bad intent.

Do you know what happens when Obito teleports someone he sends to his dimension? The said person is there not defeated. Obito has to go back and kill or defeat the said person there, so that they won't trouble him later on. Obito knows he can't best Itachi in the dimension because of kamui not working there. He also knows it'll be a long shot to leave Itachi there to die of starvation or dehydration without Itachi doing some sort of damage. Obito knows his best option is to kill Itachi outside of Kamui dimension.

But hey, why do I bother. You keep believing on that petty argument.

Complete bs. What can damage can Itachi do left to die in the Kamui dimension? lmao

I'd like to keep going but I g2g.

 

[Lord Tywin]

He's limited to sensing bad intent.

Complete bs. What can damage can Itachi do left to die in the Kamui dimension? lmao

I'd like to keep going but I g2g.

The same damage that kakashi had done when he was back in the dimension.

 

[BLAZE]

He's limited to sensing bad intent.

in a life-death battle :|

 

[Chazzi]

Lmao, Itachi low-diffs him.
Taijutsu with clones for a few minutes until his ass can't go intangible, followed by the Totsuka that slices him up.
Obito himself knew this, which is why he admitted inferiority. You just need to accept it.

 

[End of Days]

> He makes a shadow clone.
> Obito sends it to the Kamui dimension.

>obito destroys the shadow clone.

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>now kindly log out.

 

[Lord Tywin]

>obito destroys the shadow clone.

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>now kindly log out.

Lol he already said that he had to go

 

[Angelic.]

Lmao, Itachi low-diffs him.
Taijutsu with clones for a few minutes until his ass can't go intangible, followed by the Totsuka that slices him up.
Obito himself knew this, which is why he admitted inferiority. You just need to accept it.

im picturing itachis clones following obito while kicking and punching for 5 minutes straight lol. but obito slips through a rock to the other side gg

 

[Brünhild]

That was the REAL Itachi versus the real version of Naruto, who was 1/12 of his max power due to sending out clones to each battlefield.

Oh wait, the same Naruto who was helpless against Obito.
These clone and genjutsu arguments are desperate Lol

Why are they desperate? You're underestimating Itachi's intelligence, he could play like Obito would play with him using Kamui, until he loses his capacity to become intangible. And anyway, to attack someone, Obito must become tangible as I said, which gives an opportunity to counterattack. He could avoid Itachi's attacks with Kamui, yes, but it doesn't last forever and he needs to expose himself if he wanted to hurt Itachi. Even if Obito appears behind Itachi and stabs him, for example, Itachi could use his dusk crow genjutsu as he did with Sasuke many times during their fight. It worked with Sasuke time enough to save his life, even if Sasuke was able to see through it.

 

[BA5ED]

That was the REAL Itachi versus the real version of Naruto, who was 1/12 of his max power due to sending out clones to each battlefield.

Oh wait, the same Naruto who was helpless against Obito.
These clone and genjutsu arguments are desperate Lol

Seperating into clones doesn't weaken his taijiutsu skills naruto chakra pool is so huge he didn't feel an sort if fatigue

 

[Made in Heaven]

Minato was faster than Itachi, but Itachi is very fast too. A prove is that he was on pair with Naruto in taijutsu:

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And Itachi can use a bunshin or his dusk crow genjutsu to fool Obito until he can't use anymore his intangibility. Or he can strike back when Obito tries to attack him, he is fast enough for that.

Implying Naruto was going all out ? Lol

 

[Lord Tywin]

Why are they desperate? You're understimating Itachi's intelligence, he could play like Obito would play with him using Kamui, until he loses his capacity to become intangible. And anyway, to attack someone, Obito must become tangible as I said, which gives an opportunity to counterattack. He could avoid Itachi's attacks with Kamui, yes, but it doesn't last forever and he needs to expose himself if he wanted to hurt Itachi. Even if Obito appears behind Itachi and stabs him, for example, Itachi could use his dusk crow genjutsu as he did with Sasuke many times during their fight. It worked with Sasuke time enough to save his life, even if Sasuke was able to see through it.

Not even 4 kage level shinobis could attack him for 5 minutes straight. They had to use their own kamui to barely phase Obito.
Itachi would never know when Obito's tangible or not. He has no way of finding out. We've already seen how Obito tricks his opponent with Kamui, putting up decoys, or faking attacks to make opponents vulnerable.
As you're saying, Genjutsu, which would be ineffective against a seasoned MS user.

Seperating into clones doesn't weaken his taijiutsu skills naruto chakra pool is so huge he didn't feel an sort if fatigue

Yet he has to be cautious into using his chakra and techniques, automatically restricting him.

 

[BLAZE]

Implying Naruto was going all out ? Lol

implying he was not Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

implying he was not Lol

Can you not see he was on the defensive, only blocking/avoiding attacks ? That's to be expected considering they're tryin to have a conversation.

 

[To Whatever]

Obito would never absorb a clone.

But that panel of Kakashi punching Obito should have been replaced with a chidori.

The moment that Naruto clone and Kakashi entered his dimension that should have been game.

 

[BA5ED]

Yet he has to be cautious into using his chakra and techniques, automatically restricting him.

This is true he cant spam his ninjutsu as much as he could whole but his taijutsu seemed unhindered which is y u can take that exchange verbatim

 

[BLAZE]

Can you not see he was on the defensive, only blocking/avoiding attacks ? That's to be expected considering they're tryin to have a conversation.

See the first panel

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