NV powerwise gone too above even than Bleach??Kishi going super saiyan?

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Didn't Sasuke Vaporize a Meteor with just Chidori? Oh wait, he did!
And how does that negate the fact that Kenpachi could have just as easily destroyed those meteors just like what he did against Gremmy?

Sorry, Bleachverse won't stand a chance against Naruto Top tier characters.
Funny how you keep saying that, and yet you're not giving me any evidence that proves it.

Who exactly would be considered top tier in Naruto? You probably mean people like Hashirama and Minato? Compared to characters like Starrk and Ulquiorra, those guys are fodder at best, and yet you are implying that some top tiers in Naruto has the power to kill someone who took a cero point blank from a hollowfied Ichigo and still survived, to be defeated by some noob who runs round throwing wood jutsu's and getting punked by a base Madara. Negga bye.

And yes, I've watch both anime.
I don't care what you watch and I didn't ask what you watch. You still lack the knowledge and the evidence that proves what the NV has that can take out someone like Aizen or Barragan.

Kaguya alone one-shots bleachverse by simply wraping Soul society and Hueco Mundo into nothingness.
At this point, you are just fanboying.

Show me this feat about Kaguya turning something into nothingness, and I might be interested.
The only person who can turn something into nothingness is Barragan and as it stands, Kaguya isn't touching Barragan unless she wants to get her body turned to ashes.

Yhwach could just as easily alter the entire NV and crush everything with his reiatsu, and since you want to play that game, and it's quite funny that you bring up that point, when everyone on the battle field and across the ninja world weren't hurt from Kaguya's Resurrection.

And please don't tell me Bleach characters can hurt her. She can't be killed unless sealed.
lmao and please don't tell me that Kaguya can hurt Yamamoto when she can't even see him since he is a Shinigami.

You say that no one in the BV can defeat Kaguya since they can't seal her, but what good is that when Kaguya can't even see her opponents let alone touch them.

Your point is moot, and it's funny that you can only argue with Kaguya because you know everyone else gets shitted on low diff by the Gotei 13 captains or the Quincies.
 

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Now, tell me about fodder ninjas beating shinigamis ?

It's all based on the scenario...the battles can go either way depending on who is fighting and who makes the first move. Intel,Setting, and character disposition all play a role too.

Also what kind of equivalency is applied.

Truthfully, there is no right answer.
 

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Wow. So you're so buthurt from last time that you feel the need to make a petty insult on someone's likes? Man, that's pretty sad and pathetic. You really make yourself look good here.

NV is stronger period. No amount of acting like Bleach is stronger as a fact and raging when hit with counter arguments will change that.

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If any Bleach character faces this, they die, period. The only potential exceptions to this rule are Aizen (due to immortality), and Ymach(simply because we don't know how his powers work now).

You guys obviously never read Bleach :lol

First off, humans can't see shinigamis, maybe unless the Senjutsu users can sense them and Rinnegan users like Sasuke can see them, but just that means that 90% of NV is negged by Ichigo, and I will not talk about Aizen or Yhwach :lol

You're using universe exclusive rules. Don't do this. First of all, ninjas can see spirits, and they have spiritual power, so the only way you could maintain this advantage is "herp derp" the spiritual power in Bleach is different from NV! Fate craps on Bleach and DBZ then since they're invincible against anything but mana. Yet, you never see Fate fans bring this argument up to flex off the characters. Bleach fanboys are the only ones that hold so tightly to this universe advantage. For a debate and comparison of their abilities, you need to make the energies the same and compare their power, diversity, and counters to one another.
 

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Wow. So you're so buthurt from last time that you feel the need to make a petty insult on someone's likes? Man, that's pretty sad and pathetic. You really make yourself look good here.

NV is stronger period. No amount of acting like Bleach is stronger as a fact and raging when hit with counter arguments will change that.
I love your status. It truly shows how asshurt and incompetent you are. lml

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If any Bleach character faces this, they die, period. The only potential exceptions to this rule are Aizen (due to immortality), and Ymach(simply because we don't know how his powers work now).

lmao this has got to be the dumbest shit I have ever read. So you are implying that all Bleach characters, with the exception of Aizen and Yhwach get defeated against that fodder jutsu, when you have some weak ass neggas like Sakura and Kakashi surviving the impact when they are much weaker than characters like Ulquiorra and Yammy who could easily tank that and still walk away with no more than a scratch? Are you dense or is your fapping off the charts today :lol
 

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And how does that negate the fact that Kenpachi could have just as easily destroyed those meteors just like what he did against Gremmy?

Easily? Last time I checked, Kenpachi after destroying Gremmy meteor was extremely exhausted. He couldn't even stand up erectly from his opposition. I don't see him destroying a barrage of meteors from the likes of Madara.

Funny how you keep saying that, and yet you're not giving me any evidence that proves it.

Who exactly would be considered top tier in Naruto? You probably mean people like Hashirama and Minato? Compared to characters like Starrk and Ulquiorra, those guys are fodder at best, and yet you are implying that some top tiers in Naruto has the power to kill someone who took a cero point blank from a hollowfied Ichigo and still survived, to be defeated by some noob who runs round throwing wood jutsu's and getting punked by a base Madara. Negga bye.

I don't need any evidence to prove anything, I'm just using my common sense. Characters like Hagoromo can create things out of nothing. Juubi Jinchuriki Madara cast a genjutsu on every single beings on NV including animals. Kaguya created six dimensions each possibly planet-sized and could destroyed planets with her expansive truth-seeking orbs. Hashirama shinsusenju dwarfed mountains and oceans. Naruto had techniques that could bring continents to its knees. No character in bleach has a destructive aptitude more than mountain scale. And yet you keep insinuating they could stand a chance against Naruto top-tier charactes?

I don't care what you watch and I didn't ask what you watch. You still lack the knowledge and the evidence that proves what the NV has that can take out someone like Aizen or Barragan.

Your so called god Aizen almost got killed by Ichigo's mugetsu. And could easily have died if not for Hōgyoku Whereas, Naruto tanked a moon-spiltting attack with just his hand laced with potent chakra.

At this point, you are just fanboying.

Show me this feat about Kaguya turning something into nothingness, and I might be interested.
The only person who can turn something into nothingness is Barragan and as it stands, Kaguya isn't touching Barragan unless she wants to get her body turned to ashes.

Yhwach could just as easily alter the entire NV and crush everything with his reiatsu, and since you want to play that game, and it's quite funny that you bring up that point, when everyone on the battle field and across the ninja world weren't hurt from Kaguya's Resurrection.

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lmao and please don't tell me that Kaguya can hurt Yamamoto when she can't even see him since he is a Shinigami.

You say that no one in the BV can defeat Kaguya since they can't seal her, but what good is that when Kaguya can't even see her opponents let alone touch them.

Your point is moot, and it's funny that you can only argue with Kaguya because you know everyone else gets shitted on low diff by the Gotei 13 captains or the Quincies.

Are you serious about this? Kaguya is a freaking goddess not human. She is immortal, and can't be killed. In fact most top-tier Naruto characters are demi-gods not human. The likes of Yamamoto is nothing but a puny ant against them. And please stop bringing the "Humans can't see spirit card" or "Their Reitsu could crush them card" its just contradictory.
 
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I love your status. It truly shows how asshurt and incompetent you are. lml



lmao this has got to be the dumbest shit I have ever read. So you are implying that all Bleach characters, with the exception of Aizen and Yhwach get defeated against that fodder jutsu, when you have some weak ass neggas like Sakura and Kakashi surviving the impact when they are much weaker than characters like Ulquiorra and Yammy who could easily tank that and still walk away with no more than a scratch? Are you dense or is your fapping off the charts today :lol


Wow, meteors would kill Bleach characters :lol

Wow :lol

Did Gremmy use a meteor drastically smaller than this one against the seretei? Yes. Were the Bleach characters ready to soil their pants when they saw it? Yes.

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Apparently I'm the only one that actually read the Bleach manga and doesn't troll with it.

Exactly. This negga is on some other type of shit lml


EDIT: Oh, look at that. Some butthurt member by the name of Sennin of Trash is sucking other members ass.

The irony and double standards are staggering.
 

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Easily? Last time I checked, Kenpachi after destroying Gremmy meteor was extremely exhausted. He couldn't even stand up erectly from his opposition. I don't see him destroying a barrage of meteors from the likes of Madara.



I don't need any evidence to prove anything, I'm just using my common sense. Characters like Hagoromo can create things out of nothing. Juubi Jinchuriki Madara cast a genjutsu on every single beings on NV including animals. Kaguya created six dimensions each possibly planet-sized and could destroyed planets with her expansive truth-seeking orbs. Hashirama shinsusenju dwarfed mountains and oceans. Naruto had techniques that could bring continents to its knees. No character in bleach has a destructive aptitude more than mountain scale. And yet you keep insinuating they could stand a chance against Naruto top-tier charactes?



Your so called god Aizen almost got killed by Ichigo's mugetsu. And could easily have died if not for Hōgyoku Whereas, Naruto tanked a moon-spiltting attack with just his hand laced with potent chakra.



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Are you serious about this? Kaguya is a freaking goddess not human. She is immortal, and can't be killed. In fact most top-tier Naruto characters are demi-gods not human. The likes of Yamamoto is nothing but a puny ant against them. And please stop bringing the "Humans can't see spirit card" or "Their Reitsu could crush them card" its just contradictory.

Hashirama shinsusenju dwarfed mountains and oceans.

lets not over wank now:lmao:
 

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Gremmy solos everyone. All he has to do is imagine that you're dead.
 

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Easily? Last time I checked, Kenpachi after destroying Gremmy meteor was extremely exhausted. He couldn't even stand up erectly from his opposition. I don't see him destroying a barrage of meteors from the likes of Madara.



I don't need any evidence to prove anything, I'm just using my common sense. Characters like Hagoromo can create things out of nothing. Juubi Jinchuriki Madara cast a genjutsu on every single beings on NV including animals. Kaguya created six dimensions each possibly planet-sized and could destroyed planets with her expansive truth-seeking orbs. Hashirama shinsusenju dwarfed mountains and oceans. Naruto had techniques that could bring continents to its knees. No character in bleach has a destructive aptitude more than mountain scale. And yet you keep insinuating they could stand a chance against Naruto top-tier charactes?



Your so called god Aizen almost got killed by Ichigo's mugetsu. And could easily have died if not for Hōgyoku Whereas, Naruto tanked a moon-spiltting attack with just his hand laced with potent chakra.



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Are you serious about this? Kaguya is a freaking goddess not human. She is immortal, and can't be killed. In fact most top-tier Naruto characters are demi-gods not human. The likes of Yamamoto is nothing but a puny ant them.
1. Kenpachi used his bankai so of course he would feel effects after using it.
2. Gremmy's meteor is much larger compared to Madara's little cat sized fodder balls.

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Aizen's hypnosis binds everyone that looks at his Zanpakuto and troll them into believing what they have seen to be a delusion.
Kaguya can destroy planets with her truth seeking orbs? I would love for you to show me a feat of this or is this just all hype from a deluded fanboy who has lost his mind?

Hashirama is pathetic who gets speedblitzed by Stark and crushed by Barragan's respira. His ocean and mountain buster hype is barely relevant here.

The DC of Naruto is irrelevant when you have fast cats such as Ulquiorra or Starrk who can side step those explosions and spam their attacks.

>One lanza from Ulquorra and he can destroy an entire land, and he can continuously spam those shits without getting tired.
>Naruto can barely keep up with Sasuke without going depleted and asking for Kurama's chakra. Pathetic.

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Ichigo's Mugetsu, and Ichigo at that time was stronger than Hyogoku Aizen so obviously Mugetsu Ichigo would have defeated him, but he crushes Naruto and Sasuke even worse. Naruto and Sasuke get a sword to the throat from Ichigo's attack and they die before they even witness their deaths.

Simple power and DC is irrelevant when your opponents are much faster to the point that you can't see them.
>Sasuke's Susano'O is destroyed by Mugetsu
>Naruto gets cut in half by Ichigo's side step.

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Doesn't matter what type of title you give her.
Kaguya isn't touching Yama when he is coated in endless flames.
Kaguya isn't touching Barragan without being erased from existence.

Your only argument is that she can't be sealed but you have no prove of Kaguya even being able to harm the other Bleach characters that I have named.

Dimension shifting? Isn't that something that she uses when she is trying to run away? lmao I thought so.
What good is running away, and how is she going to defeat someone when all she can do is hide in dimensions and run away.

You are defending a pathetic character who has no chance against Yhwach or any of the other haxed characters I have mentioned.

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That negga actually said that all Bleach characters would get destroyed by Chibaku Tenshi lml

No point in arguing with that clown guys. :lmao:
 

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Did Gremmy use a meteor drastically smaller than this one against the seretei? Yes. Were the Bleach characters ready to soil their pants when they saw it? Yes.

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Apparently I'm the only one that actually read the Bleach manga and doesn't troll with it.

Smaller ? :lol
 

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Oh please

Konohamaru can even beat Aizen with his rasengan
Pla stop trolling

Even i can beat Aizen and Yhwach

All i need is an eraser
 
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Power is debatable, but Bleach dwarfs NV in speed. I just feel that the OP'ing wouldn't be as problematic if Kishi can maintain it without having to nerf people when Team 7 needs to shine again. Kakashi's chakra levels should be through the clouds by now, yet he watches helplessly as a meteor approaches the leaf (as Hokage). I mean, wtf. Ninjas fightin' on the moon now? Water prison has now officially been further nerfed for everybody except Ten-Ten (because a Kunoichi that runs from one village to the next without stopping must have really weak lungs, I guess).I think if the power levels were more cohesive, Kishi could pull it off. Akira did. Just sayin'

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Oh please

Konohamaru can even beat Aizen with his rasengan
Pla stop trolling

Even i can beat Aizen and Yhwach

All i need is an eraser

The only person who can defeat Aizen is Kubo. o//o
 

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That negga actually said that all Bleach characters would get destroyed by Chibaku Tenshi lml

No point in arguing with that clown guys. :lmao:

Please, do everyone a favor given you say things that can't possibly be true. I caught you, and you keep trolling.

Smaller ? :lol

Yes, smaller.

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Unless you're trying to say a meteor was smaller than the shakonmaku and was small enough for Kenpachi to be visible when he slashed it is bigger than a meteor that's visible when zoomed out far enough to see the curve of the earth and it's fragements dwarfs mountains, and Sasuke's PS, which bisected them is invisible despite it's incredible size. But it's ok, keep believing Gremmy's is larger.


Funnily enough, you guys can't argue at this point. You two can only use a love child of begging the question and ad hominem fallacy, using your conclusion as evidence. Speaks alot about the thought you put into this.
 
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1. Kenpachi used his bankai so of course he would feel effects after using it.
2. Gremmy's meteor is much larger compared to Madara's little cat sized fodder balls.

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Aizen's hypnosis binds everyone that looks at his Zanpakuto and troll them into believing what they have seen to be a delusion.
Kaguya can destroy planets with her truth seeking orbs? I would love for you to show me a feat of this or is this just all hype from a deluded fanboy who has lost his mind?

Hashirama is pathetic who gets speedblitzed by Stark and crushed by Barragan's respira. His ocean and mountain buster hype is barely relevant here.

The DC of Naruto is irrelevant when you have fast cats such as Ulquiorra or Starrk who can side step those explosions and spam their attacks.

>One lanza from Ulquorra and he can destroy an entire land, and he can continuously spam those shits without getting tired.
>Naruto can barely keep up with Sasuke without going depleted and asking for Kurama's chakra. Pathetic.

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Ichigo's Mugetsu, and Ichigo at that time was stronger than Hyogoku Aizen so obviously Mugetsu Ichigo would have defeated him, but he crushes Naruto and Sasuke even worse. Naruto and Sasuke get a sword to the throat from Ichigo's attack and they die before they even witness their deaths.

Simple power and DC is irrelevant when your opponents are much faster to the point that you can't see them.
>Sasuke's Susano'O is destroyed by Mugetsu
>Naruto gets cut in half by Ichigo's side step.

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Doesn't matter what type of title you give her.
Kaguya isn't touching Yama when he is coated in endless flames.
Kaguya isn't touching Barragan without being erased from existence.

Your only argument is that she can't be sealed but you have no prove of Kaguya even being able to harm the other Bleach characters that I have named.

Dimension shifting? Isn't that something that she uses when she is trying to run away? lmao I thought so.
What good is running away, and how is she going to defeat someone when all she can do is hide in dimensions and run away.

You are defending a pathetic character who has no chance against Yhwach or any of the other haxed characters I have mentioned.

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Madara meteors is surely bigger. It covered possibly a country and when it made impact, it could felt continents away.

Aizen's hypnosis won't work against Sharingan nor Rinnegans users considering the fact they call tell when been casted upon an illusion.

Kaguya's Expansive truth seeking was meant to destroy NV and then create an entire new dimension.
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Hashirama isn't getting blitzed by anyone. He's Shinsusenju once activated is unstoppable. It basically tanked a barrage of Bijuu-damas effortlessly and defeated Kurama with just a touch.

Ulquiorra can't possibly out-run techniques that annihilates countries instantly. His lanza aint doing sh*t to the likes of Naruto who deflected Six Bijuu-damas. Mind you, Bijuu-damas are stronger and has more destructive scale than Lanza.

Seriously? Naruto fought for days without going exhausted.

He tanked Toneri's moon-spiltting attack with his hand, and here you think he can be defeated by a sword?

Sasuke Susanoo could sliced meteors with ease, and potentially has Bijuu-bomb durability. And RSM Naruto has shown to react against instantaneous jutsus such as Amenotejikara. He senses is in another level. RSM gives him universal comprehension of all things. Ichigo would get one-shotted immediately he gets close to him.

Kaguya wasn't running. She was trying to separate Naruto and Sasuke. She posseses ying-yang meaning she can create things from nothingness and possibly erase things also. If she could tanked Naruto's Super Bijuu Rasenshuriken, What can Yamamato flames do to her?

Yhwach is the only Bleach character who has a chance of defeating top-tier Naruto characters. Sadly I don't see him defeating the likesHagoromo, Kaguya, Juubi Jinchuriki Madara and possibly Naruto. I'm also gonna add there are other top Naruto-characters will know nothing about.
 
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