(NSU) Naruto is top 3 (please read )

[zenkutsu]

also , you are fogetting that Naruto got a few power ups afterwars

your arguments are based off old battles

Naruto won against Pain

- what you make are pure excuses

Pain did Use the Chubaku Tense , it was too weak for the 9 tails . Naruto has now got control of it. Thus a Chubaku tensei is childs play for him

What did I forget. I told you that the first power up didnt work. and a second power up which is somewhat stronger still doenst amount to anything because pain eats chakra.
also that was a weak chibaku tensei through a path. Killer bee had mastery of the 8 tails. even more so then Naruto, one could argue because he can gain the full power of his without seperating chakra and body. and his bijuu dama need a mini rasenshuriken and Itachi's magatama just to break the core. your logic is flawed, especially since chibaku tensei was developed toSEAL THE JUUBI

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

What did I forget. I told you that the first power up didnt work. and a second power up which is somewhat stronger still doenst amount to anything because pain eats chakra.
also that was a weak chibaku tensei through a path. Killer bee had mastery of the 8 tails. even more so then Naruto, one could argue because he can gain the full power of his without seperating chakra and body. and his bijuu dama need a mini rasenshuriken and Itachi's magatama just to break the core. your logic is flawed, especially since chibaku tensei was developed toSEAL THE JUUBI

That was not a weak chibaku tensei - Where does it say that it was a weaker version , he got close to use it a chibaku tensei that engulfed the whole Sky

It was the strongest




Naruto has been fully cooperating with the 9 tails , and their co operation is at a much higher level

Hachibi has stated " that Nine tails , he really pull of that Transformation "

this transformation was to Make Naruto and Kurama be able to use their powers to their full extent

as for Chubaku tensei

It was developed to seal the Juubi's Shell , the Gedo Mazo . After the Rikudo separated the tailed beasts from the 10 tails

- he would not be able to do it after he used the chubaku tense , and presumably that created the moon


Nagato still has delays between the use of his techniques , and his chakra is still not infinite . he can not spam his strongest jutsus

He said himself he was going all out, and the power of the 9 tails was just too much . " i did not think that the 9 tails would be so powerfull" - his words not mine

 

[zenkutsu]

that was after underestimating Naruto and losing the other paths. If he had taken him seriously from the start and preserved his paths. Naruto would have been slaughtered. and yes. Powers are weaker through paths.
Preta path body: Slow absorbtion
Nagato: instant absorbtion

and maybe so but it almost killed Nagato in the process of using it the first time. the second time he could have made one that equaled with far fewer effects.

Maybe so, but have you seen the gedo mazo fight. it is as strong as the Kyuubi easily.

all in all Nagato is faster to respond and stronger when not using paths. It is clear when he fights Naruto bee and Itachi at the same time AND STOMPS THEM. He only lost because Kabuto was in control and didn't know Nagato's powers as well as Nagato.

Plus Nagato has all 5 nature elements. Something that most ninja never accomplish in their lives. He did it when He was 10. If it was Nagato vs Naruto with no outside forces in play. Nagato takes it, in every possible scenario.
Sage mode, work him down until he exhasts sage mode. KM -Preta path. 9 tails Km Preta path. He doesnt even need Chibaku tensei Plus shinra tensei. When not using shinra tensei he has all of his other paths. If he can manipulate 6 bodies, use multiple summons, all requiring his chakra to manipulate, asura which requires massive amounts of chakra to fire missles and fire lasers. and several shinra tenseis including a full scale shinra tensei, and still have chakra to use Chibaku tensei and Rinne Tensei. He has more chakra then you are crediting for. as an uzumaki, he has unaturally large resevoirs of chakra

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

that was after underestimating Naruto and losing the other paths. If he had taken him seriously from the start and preserved his paths. Naruto would have been slaughtered. and yes. Powers are weaker through paths.
Preta path body: Slow absorbtion
Nagato: instant absorbtion

and maybe so but it almost killed Nagato in the process of using it the first time. the second time he could have made one that equaled with far fewer effects.

Maybe so, but have you seen the gedo mazo fight. it is as strong as the Kyuubi easily.

all in all Nagato is faster to respond and stronger when not using paths. It is clear when he fights Naruto bee and Itachi at the same time AND STOMPS THEM. He only lost because Kabuto was in control and didn't know Nagato's powers as well as Nagato.

Plus Nagato has all 5 nature elements. Something that most ninja never accomplish in their lives. He did it when He was 10. If it was Nagato vs Naruto with no outside forces in play. Nagato takes it, in every possible scenario.
Sage mode, work him down until he exhasts sage mode. KM -Preta path. 9 tails Km Preta path. He doesnt even need Chibaku tensei Plus shinra tensei. When not using shinra tensei he has all of his other paths. If he can manipulate 6 bodies, use multiple summons, all requiring his chakra to manipulate, asura which requires massive amounts of chakra to fire missles and fire lasers. and several shinra tenseis including a full scale shinra tensei, and still have chakra to use Chibaku tensei and Rinne Tensei. He has more chakra then you are crediting for. as an uzumaki, he has unaturally large resevoirs of chakra

Gedo Mazo does not exist - he can not use it btw - i know you did not say it , but im just saying so that you dont use it

Naruto can use the Sage toads to constantly stay in Sage mode now that he is cooperating with the 9 tails

Naruto can go in and out of Sage mode in a matter of Seconds

Shinra tense has not effect on Naruto - all he did was use Multiple clones to counter it - NO BM , NO SM

Chibaku tensei - he has already countered it , 2 times . and now he can throw a Rasen-shuriken + a Bijuu bomb at it


Nagato did Stomp all of them , Kabuto used him to his full extent , that was when Nagato started to stomp , when Kabuto took over

Bansho tenin - Easily Countered by Bijuu Mode .

Other paths should not be put in the argument , they are pure fodder.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Nagato>=Naruto
Obito
Hashirama
Madara.

So Naruto, without so6p, is about fourth or 5th

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Nagato>=Naruto
Obito
Hashirama
Madara.

So Naruto, without so6p, is about fourth or 5th

please elaborate , you did not back it up ...

i can not agree to what you are saying

 

[zenkutsu]

explain how it is easily countered by bijuu mode. I found no way that BM counters gravitational forces like bansho tennin. sure that worked once. will it work again. doubtful. It is called full scale shinra tensei. say goodbye to naruto's bones and internal organs if he gets hit with that directly. The entire time, Nagato faught with the intention to capture. Not kill. full scale shinra tensei focused on a single point = splat. its basic physics. and honestly He doenst need CT. he can do without. and there is no proof of sage toads working now. besides he cant summon them. Remember jiraiya, he needed several minutes to summon them. He signed a contract for the big toads, not fukusaku and shima. all he has is Gamabunta and his summons unless he runs away and gets the others. which he cant do since he cant enter mt. Myoboku freely. Meanwhile Pain tears him apart with the abilities the abilities that Rinnegan grant without needing anybody else or fancy modes.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

explain how it is easily countered by bijuu mode. I found no way that BM counters gravitational forces like bansho tennin. sure that worked once. will it work again. doubtful. It is called full scale shinra tensei. say goodbye to naruto's bones and internal organs if he gets hit with that directly. The entire time, Nagato faught with the intention to capture. Not kill. full scale shinra tensei focused on a single point = splat. its basic physics. and honestly He doenst need CT. he can do without. and there is no proof of sage toads working now. besides he cant summon them. Remember jiraiya, he needed several minutes to summon them. He signed a contract for the big toads, not fukusaku and shima. all he has is Gamabunta and his summons unless he runs away and gets the others. which he cant do since he cant enter mt. Myoboku freely. Meanwhile Pain tears him apart with the abilities the abilities that Rinnegan grant without needing anybody else or fancy modes.

The Same way that Kurama countered Shinra Tensei

and redirected it on Pein , that sent him flying

 

[zenkutsu]

The Same way that Kurama countered Shinra Tensei

and redirected it on Pein , that sent him flying

Raw animal power. which Naruto has yet to show in his new form. He has not shown the raw power of the 6 tails form in his new form at all. Just arms and rasengans.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Raw animal power. which Naruto has yet to show in his new form. He has not shown the raw power of the 6 tails form in his new form at all. Just arms and rasengans.

ofcource , And Pushing back all of the 6 tailed beasts + throwing them all over the place did not show it

sure sure

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[zenkutsu]

nothing shinra tensei can't handle. Im not convinced. but you are a lost effort. so I am going to walk away and let you think what you want to think

 

[Icelerate]

Edo Madara is number 1.

Hashirama is number 2.

Obito is number 3.

Edo Madara-Self Explanatory

Hashirama-Mokuton is the Bijuu's weakness

Obito-Naruto can't touch him.

Why is Hashirama above Obito? When did Hashirama get speed feats or teleportation feats that will allow him to beat Obito?

@OP: It goes like this
1. Kabuto (edo army)
2. Obito
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto
5. EMS Madara

Hashirama and Naruto are interchangeable, one has more raw power and the other has special abilities suppressing that power.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

nothing shinra tensei can't handle. Im not convinced. but you are a lost effort. so I am going to walk away and let you think what you want to think

Ofcource

Shinra tense was allready countered by a 6 tailed form. and this is nothing it cant handle


it is you who is thinking what you want , and stating nonsense

Why is Hashirama above Obito? When did Hashirama get speed feats or teleportation feats that will allow him to beat Obito?

well

Hashirama does have Zetsus teleportation technique

but Naruto can feel Chakra , thus i put him above

 

[Paintry4]

But shadow clones cant use the originals powers,it only uses what the original gives it.such as fightin with kakuzu 2nd rasenshuriken was used by clones coz that was given by naruto it dont produced itself and naruto used 3rd rasenshuriken to kakuzu and finished him.

 

[Thundercles]

I think it is tacky to copy Dr. Proof's thread titles. But, hey, he might think it is an homage.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why is Hashirama above Obito? When did Hashirama get speed feats or teleportation feats that will allow him to beat Obito?

@OP: It goes like this
1. Kabuto (edo army)
2. Obito
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto
5. EMS Madara

Hashirama and Naruto are interchangeable, one has more raw power and the other has special abilities suppressing that power.

Yeah, I was thinking that I should switch them..(Obito and Hashirama).

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Yeah, I was thinking that I should switch them..(Obito and Hashirama).

Obito is definitely above. He has a lot up his sleeve

 

[Midday]

Why is Hashirama above Obito? When did Hashirama get speed feats or teleportation feats that will allow him to beat Obito?

@OP: It goes like this
1. Kabuto (edo army)
2. Obito
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto
5. EMS Madara

Hashirama and Naruto are interchangeable, one has more raw power and the other has special abilities suppressing that power.

I wanted to say pretty much this. Although I believe Naruto is above Hashirama and I would have added Nagato at the same level of Naruto.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

I wanted to say pretty much this. Although I believe Naruto is above Hashirama and I would have added Nagato at the same level of Naruto.

Nagato is below Naruto , check out my Argument throughout the Thread

 

[HadouKage]

Nagato > Edo Madara and Hashirama ?

What , are you High ?


Nagato is strong , but What will he do Against a PS ? and when Madara has the same powers as he does .....

what sh1t r u smoking , i want to try it too ...

Feel like this has been said before Preta Path > PS