Not Sopa/pipa/ But the New bill the idiot came up with.

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Senator Lamar Smith, lead sponsor of the currently dead SOPA bill you’ve heard so much about, has another bill in the works that uses Child Pornography as a screen to push through an amendment that’ll have your internet service provider tracking all of your financial dealings online. Each time you use a credit card, each time you read your bank statement, all of your IP information and your search history will be required by your ISP to be stored for 18 months at all times. This bill is H.R. 1981 and will have more dire consequences than SOPA or PIPA ever had the potential to have.


What it does is to amend several rules that have to do with Child Pornography and preventing it, the bill itself called the “Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011.” What it also does is to change the U.S. code Chapter 18 section 2703 Required Disclosure of Customer Communications or Records to include a requirement that your internet service provider do the following:

"A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section."

While it was legal for the government to issue a subpoena for the viewing of the information they speak about here before, it was not part of the law that internet service providers capture or retain that information at any point. In effect, while before the authorities would need to first find a reason for you to need to be watched to get the ISP to start collecting information from you, that information will already exist on file, effectively meaning you’re being watched and recorded even if you’ve done nothing wrong.

This bill (which uses Child Pornography as it's cover) would effectively track every time you look at your bank statement or use a credit card online, and force IP service providers to record your credit card and billing statement info, along with your recent internet search histories, and store them in a "secure" place for 18 months. Anything which looked "suspicious" would immediately be flagged to allow the government to step in.

Since billing statements and online transactions are so common these days, this bill would, In effect, be monitoring everything everyone did 24/7. I don't know about you, but I can't go 18 months without using my credit card to purchase something online or view my bank statement. Also, given that hackers are so good at their jobs, is it really wise to have millions of people's credit card, internet search history, and billing info all stored in one place like that?

I know most of you are piss off once's again for this jack rabbit idea of a bill, child pornography is one thing by watching me 24/? hell no.:mad: not to mention any flipping op hacker could hack them and steal your information, what is this guy up to for god sake.
 
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this law makes a little sense but i hate survelience.
So you telling me you want to be watch? or better yet "know your being watch" if they not doing so already? don't you think they will push this further which would tell me when we steaming a manga or something that once again has a copy right ? what you think would happen next=bye nb atleast in america. and you know something with that new bill the president just sign i have a feeling this shit will go hand to hand with that, which more ppl would be arrested just for looking shit up they curious about.
 
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That's stooping pretty damn low. It's those old crinkly motherfukers in office who touch kids the most in the first place. This won't pass.
 

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ya thats retarded everything the gov does seem to make this worse i watched on tv about the combined id.passport card thing was supposed to make travel easier or sum such along those line but they brought it out to fast and sumone from up to like 10 metters away from u can rip all ur info off the card and all u have to do is be within ten meters with the card in ur wallet and when it was brought up to homeland security they jus denied it even with all the proof
 

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I could be wrong, but I thought the government already could do this basically. Maybe it'll be streamlined a bit more but the government can track down pretty much anything you do online.
 

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So you telling me you want to be watch? or better yet "know your being watch" if they not doing so already? don't you think they will push this further which would tell me when we steaming a manga or something that once again has a copy right ? what you think would happen next=bye nb atleast in america. and you know something with that new bill the president just sign i have a feeling this shit will go hand to hand with that, which more ppl would be arrested just for looking shit up they curious about.
dude calm down! the idea of this law makes sense, exactly like Sopa, but instead of doing this they will watch us.
 

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dude calm down! the idea of this law makes sense, exactly like Sopa, but instead of doing this they will watch us.
if u think this makes sense ur the kinda guy that will let this world go to hell with a smile on ur face cuz ur not smart enough to realize whats actually going on so if u truly believe what us jus said i suggest u leave here right now pic up a book and begin to educate urself
 

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This site, Americans wouldn't even be allowed to come on it no more because watching/reading anime online is illegal, and this is where this bill going to lead, it's a sopa clone.
 

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man this government is getting out of hand.. thanks dot for informing us, i would rep you but i can't. that is why i don't use my debit card that is connected to my bank account, instead i use an online prepaid debit card, just to be safe. i advise everyone to do the same.. i guess the internet has no real privacy, next thing you know they will peep your private messages.
 

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man this government is getting out of hand.. thanks dot for informing us, i would rep you but i can't. that is why i don't use my debit card that is connected to my bank account, instead i use an online prepaid debit card, just to be safe. i advise everyone to do the same.. i guess the internet has no real privacy, next thing you know they will peep your private messages.
np man it's cool. right now i feel like all ppl rights are going to shit now, this makes me want to move out of this country Asap if the government is this corrupted. ( might just take a friend up on their offer and go to England or Australia but that could be worst idk how their government is like so.
 

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np man it's cool. right now i feel like all ppl rights are going to shit now, this makes me want to move out of this country Asap if the government is this corrupted. ( might just take a friend up on their offer and go to England or Australia but that could be worst idk how their government is like so.
there is no where to go bro it seems, we just gotta make it here somehow.. i would move, but i refuse to leave my friends and family stuck.. it seems like every government is corrupt in some way, just like the movies lol, but i wouldn't say everyone in the government is corrupt, because there are actually some good people..
 

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there is no where to go bro it seems, we just gotta make it here somehow.. i would move, but i refuse to leave my friends and family stuck.. it seems like every government is corrupt in some way, just like the movies lol, but i wouldn't say everyone in the government is corrupt, because there are actually some good people..
Well man, the thing about good people, I feel when they get "power" all their values and promises turn to shit. Money is the root to all Evil, and when money is in your face it seems to change people, so i can't really trust anyone in the government right now regardless of who they are until they prove me wrong.
 

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Well man, the thing about good people, I feel when they get "power" all their values and promises turn to shit. Money is the root to all Evil, and when money is in your face it seems to change people, so i can't really trust anyone in the government right now regardless of who they are until they prove me wrong.
that's real, money is the root of all evil, that is why i could careless about being rich, i like the simple life, being in my home and going to work. lol all i need is a loyal women, instead of all these hoes.. but people let money take over them, if i had billions, anybody i see starving will be eating .. i would donate most of it, because i don't need all of that. people out here hungry, losing houses, dying, and they are worried about what transactions are being made online smh
 
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