[Discussion] Nonbinary makes no sense??

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Playing sports is masculine indeed as physical activities are something men are better at and more geared towards due to being stronger, faster, more durable, and having higher stamina. FFS, a team of under-15 boys beat "professional" woman's team, and you want to argue sports isn't masculine? Men being more aggressive than women is also a fact and ties into their biology. They are meant to be more aggressive and confrontational in order to protect the weaker wife and children.


Excellent strawman. My argument never disputed that men have a physical advantage in sports, nor does that have any impact on the point of my post: Being a biological man doesn't automatically render someone a person who enjoys sports, and being a biological woman doesn't automatically render someone a person who doesn't enjoy sports. That displays the difference between gender and ***.
 

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Excellent strawman. My argument never disputed that men have a physical advantage in sports, nor does that have any impact on the point of my post: Being a biological man doesn't automatically render someone a person who enjoys sports, and being a biological woman doesn't automatically render someone a person who doesn't enjoy sports. That displays the difference between gender and ***.
Gender is not your personal likes or dislikes. Gender is how you relate to others within society. Even you agreed to this definition.

Now you want to move the goal posts, again. Trash. You should be stripped of your titles and ground to dust. You are an insult to the symbols you wear.
 

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Excellent strawman. My argument never disputed that men have a physical advantage in sports, nor does that have any impact on the point of my post: Being a biological man doesn't automatically render someone a person who enjoys sports, and being a biological woman doesn't automatically render someone a person who doesn't enjoy sports. That displays the difference between gender and ***.
Since when did mere hobbies determine one's gender. I thought that was called having different tastes and personal preferences. It seems gender is anything you people want it to be so long as you can create trans people, manly women, and effeminate men.
 

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Since when did mere hobbies determine one's gender. I thought that was called having different tastes and personal preferences. It seems gender is anything you people want it to be so long as you can create trans people, manly women, and effeminate men.
Jesus Christ you people are dense. Gender includes hobbies because society decided to associate certain behaviors with ***. The association once ran so deep that at one point, men were only allowed to act a certain way, and women were only allowed to act a certain way. After a while, people became more accepting of anyone being able to do these things regardless of biological ***, so a differentiation between *** and gender was created, with gender now being those behaviors that we associated so deeply with ***. And yes, that includes hobbies.

You’re questioning “Why does hobbies have anything to do with gender” as though non-binary people caused that. It wasn’t, it was a binary society that started associating hobbies and behaviors so deeply with ***.
 
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Jesus Christ you people are dense.
Says the follower of the seventh dimension of compressed blah-blah.

Gender includes hobbies because society decided to associate certain behaviors with ***.
So, because you say society WRONGLY associated choice of hobby with sexual orientation, the CORRECT thing to do is to assign each hobby a sexual identifier and then use this to determine how someone is not of a binary gender identity because of their ability to choose hobbies outside of what their *** would indicate.

Seriously, you luciferians are nuttier than squirrel shit.

The association once ran so deep that at one point, men were only allowed to act a certain way, and women were only allowed to act a certain way.
Nice fanfic.

A casual look through history will show that, for the average working pleb, men and women were far less stereotypical. Families often had little choice with regard to the *** of their children. My mother never had a daughter, for example. For the overwhelming majority of society, men and women would readily adopt each others' 'gender roles' as needed. While there were certainly trends, when push came to shove, there were always your tom-boys and maid-men.

The strict system of gender was more a thing of the aristocrats and elite, who could afford the burden of strictly defined (political) roles.

Step outside the ivory spire of self-delusion, and the world never really gave a shit. Take the plagues of Europe - which could largely be said to have birthed the West's strong sense of Egalitarianism. The plagues, particularly the Black Plague, took a heavy toll on the organized trades. Wives took up smithies after their husbands fell ill or passed - daughters took up leading businesses, etc. Society had little choice but to adapt.

After a while, people became more accepting of anyone being able to do these things regardless of biological ***, so a differentiation between *** and gender was created, with gender now being those behaviors that we associated so deeply with ***. And yes, that includes hobbies.
Ah, yes, the "progressive" view of humanity. All of this "you can dress like a girl because people of yester-year were backward luddites of a bygone way of thought" is new! First time it's ever been seen! Carry the light, young acolyte of the so graciously fallen one!

Well, except for the fact that dressing in drag has been a thing going all the way back to ancient Sumerian culture. It typically indicates the collapse of a civilization when it begins to take over.

You’re questioning “Why does hobbies have anything to do with gender” as though non-binary people caused that. It wasn’t, it was a binary society that started associating hobbies and behaviors so deeply with ***.
You're a broken little crackpot, aren't you little guy?
 
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