Non-Kurama Naruto vs Non-Uchiha Sasuke
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Naruto just due to being an Uzumaki was stated to have 4x more chakra than the average person. He's still summon alot of shadow clones, not 100s but still alot and he'd still have sage mode. That and he has the will to train and doesn't give up. He's also pretty good at doing stuff on-the-fly in battle due to being a natural born prankster, that's his strategy.
Sasuke would be dead from the CM Oro gave him, he could only handle it due to being an Uchiha. He wouldn't be able to handle using chidori repeatedly or summoning snakes repeatedly due to having a low chakra pool from being a non-Uchiha. I don't mean to sound harsh, but Sasuke would be fodder if he wasn't an Uchiha. You seriously handicapped him here.
Naruto takes this easily at a laughable-diff.
Sasuke would be dead from the CM Oro gave him, he could only handle it due to being an Uchiha. He wouldn't be able to handle using chidori repeatedly or summoning snakes repeatedly due to having a low chakra pool from being a non-Uchiha. I don't mean to sound harsh, but Sasuke would be fodder if he wasn't an Uchiha. You seriously handicapped him here.
Naruto takes this easily at a laughable-diff.
Solaris Vexius
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This is really meaningless. They are who they are because of the combination of the things they have and experienced. If Naruto didn't have Kurama then things would've been vastly different than they are. He might've become the ramen guy disciple. Don't forget that this is a manga made with a character setting made from the things you're trying to take away from the characters.
You might as well be talking about two fictional characters (that could never be called either Naruto or Sasuke) that may or may not exist in NV.
You might as well be talking about two fictional characters (that could never be called either Naruto or Sasuke) that may or may not exist in NV.
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Watch gaara vs naruto.....and remember what kakashi said that naruto has a huge chakra pool
I forget where that "4 times chakra" comes from actually. I only remembered the part where Kakashi said that Naruto had at least 2 times more chakra than him with Kyuubi's chakra suppressed.
And don't underestimate Sasuke, he is a prodigy, and Naruto was shown to be stupid and very untalented. He won't get so far without Kurama.
Anyway, I kinda agree of the advantage of having Uzumaki blood. So in actuality, my thread is biased towards Naruto. Lol
Well if the nine tails was never inside of him wouldnt that mean it never attacked the leaf?
If so, the the 4th would never had died from the nine tails attack, and most likely would have taught him FTG. Soooo......GG sausage.
If so, the the 4th would never had died from the nine tails attack, and most likely would have taught him FTG. Soooo......GG sausage.
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slimreaper
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make this fair. you take away sasuke's birthright and leave naruto with sage mode.If you take the sharingan you must take naruto's uzumaki body and chakra levels
Howling Fox
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Lol u don't read do you? He said 4 times as much without Kurama and 100 times with it.
Sasuke without Uchiha is no genius. No Chidori, no fire style since that is natural Uchiha style, no Lee speed, not a damn thing. Nardo still have hella chakra for 100s of clones, RS, SM, frog Kumite, and sensing that dodge 3rd raikage.
This is worse rape than you vs Chuck Liddell
Kakashi said that Naruto had at least 2 times as much as his chakra with Kyuubi suppressed. So I doubt that Naruto would be able to maintain a really massive Kage Bunshin without Kurama. It's just two times.
I realized that my thread is biased already. Lol
Please don't be angry... LolLolLol
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Howling Fox
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Ya said "at least" cuz Kakashi doesn't know shit he is not a sensor. Uzumaki have way more than normal ninja.
Other scan say 4. Either way Naruto have buttload more than anyone not Senju Uzumaki.
He made 999 clones against Gaara without Kyuubi chakra. So it canon already
Ultimateone
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naruto would still posses the ability to use taju kage bunshin. remember when he first used the technique he wasn't even technically a genin yet. he had not even started to access any of the kyuubi's chakra and he was still able to make may clones easily. that was just when he was still like 11 or 12, i can't remember, and he had just learned the technique. so he would have still been the son of minato and would most likely still have made a contract with the toads and still been able to learn sage mode. the nine tails did not help with sage mode in any way, in fact it was a problem in the end. sasuke on the other hand could still be a good ninja, but he would be nowhere near as good as he is with sharingan, thus already putting him below naruto. also the reason why it makes no sense to take away naruto's uzumaki genetics is you don't really need to be from a certain clan to have huge chakra reserves, check Ay and third rakage for example. also minato himself, not coming from any known clans, had good chakra reserves with him being able to spam FTG. this is the same technique that took 3 other people to do. so you can't take away chakra reserves as then how would you measure what he could do and what he couldn't. in the end naruto would still outclass sasuke in just about every way.