"Nobody died in the War arc!"
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Lightbringer
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I understand that the more important the character the bigger the impact the death will have on that certain arc, but doesn't take away the fact that thousands of people died. You have no reason to care about them of course, but I'm just saying more people died than the ones we have an attachment to. Also personally I prefer Gai to be alive and handicapped and seeing Lee be a better sensei than him than him dying without actually doing his job properly, but that's just how I see it.
Jiraiyathesannin
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Lets look, we know that by the first night, about half of the alliance was dead. This we KNOW. they had like what? 80,000? So that leaves 40,000. The alliance that was with the kages was just one of the platoons right? I don't know if it was an equal portion, but lets call it 1/4th of the alliance. And literally almost all of them died to the meteor. So we'll go with 30,000. Then they all came together against obito etc. Then we lost probably at LEAST half to the god tree. At LEAST
SO i wanna say less than 15,000. And thats being generous. And of those 15,000 we know that most of them were severely injured.
So yeah, 65,000/80,000 died.
SO i wanna say less than 15,000. And thats being generous. And of those 15,000 we know that most of them were severely injured.
So yeah, 65,000/80,000 died.
Jiraiyathesannin
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Can i briefly comment on that ira? Everyone calls it a kids manga, which the rules on this site reflect... but (at least in the manga stream translation) they say ****, shit, and all other things. there's sexual themes, near nudity, people peeping in bath houses, and general ecchi material. Then there's people dying left and right. Some people get beheaded, some get their arms ripped off.
Where does this whole thing about it being a kid manga come from? i mean i know its easier to just say "this is a family site for a family manga"... but the material in the manga is pretty intense :/
because I wouldn't have done it myself Lol
SAmIDeXtEr
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No one complained when Hidan's head was cut off and he was living, breathing and talking. :|
Tsunade always said she cannot die in battle. Well she of course is not an immortal but then no one is really immortal. Some of them are just really really hard to kill. Tsunade's power lies in being able to survive a hell lot and helping others in surviving along with herself.
Either way Kishi's style has always been slightly different and more focused on internal conflicts of characters. Using inner struggle of a small number, rather than spreading it across too many insignificant characters, Kishi goes about his theme of how the actions of the previous generations can shape and mold the personalities of the present characters and their future.
I guess he had covered what he wanted to convey with that theme and prolonging it was becoming tiresome for him. It would be fun if he writes some spin offs like Kakashi gaiden to cover other characters but shippuden arc needed an ending.
Anyway back to the OT- killing of your own creation just like that is not easy either. Especially if you may have some plans later on and want to be able to use them.
Well you are reading a book written in Japan. Are you sure both countries have exactly the same standard about what's acceptable for kids and what's not?
For example, let me point it out: I know "shit" as a swear word in English and in the West. In India due to influence of English speaking media ( movies , books etc) the word has become common among such computer using population or the English medium schools etc.
The nearest equivalent in meaning and use in Hindi for the word shit is "Chhee". People especially the older generation is more likely to give you a disapproval for saying "shit" as they learn it as some serious swear word than "Chhee". No one would even blink if you say "chhee!!!". If some people living in metro give you a second glance for saying Chee it would be only because that Hindi word is being used less and less by the newer gen.
That explanation was meant to point out cultural difference. Same words may look harmless to you but may be seen as offensive in other places. So you have to take such references with a grain of salt.
The ultimate ranking and wording has to be what's seen as acceptable in Japan as the manga is being published there. When published in your country, official publications may modify it according to acceptability in your country.
On the other hand, manga fan communities translating the manga may use words which may or may not be in Japanese version to help convey the meaning as per their personal understanding and views. You cannot argue that Kishi should follow the standards use set by fan communities, can you?
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Lightbringer
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Yeah but Hidan was introduced as a true immortal.
Tsunade's healing was due to her yin seal rebirth which was already exhausted after the battle, so it makes no sense how she was able to survive with those injuries or even move.
It's not the fact that he didn't kill them, but the fact that he put them in situations where it makes it unbelievable that they even managed to recover.
As for spin-offs, I would have really loved to see a more in-depth history between Ashura and Indra. I love the mythology behind them and I wager that they would make interesting characters.
i agree with this guy, gai sensei should have died after using 8 gates, there´s nothing more he can do to top off what he already did which is great because he was winning against madara jin, throughout all manga i always thought he would die but kishi decided to save him, c´mon
To Whatever
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I don't know about you guys. But when Pain nuked konoha and slashed their population to less than 10% of it's previous numbers. I wasn't going around saying "LOL, no one died from that"
I mean, they got revived. But imagine how dark that shit would be if they didn't.
Personally, the anime episode of Neji's death conveys the casualties a lot better than the manga due to the simple fact that most of you guys probably looked at the corpses as if it was background scenery.
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I mean, they got revived. But imagine how dark that shit would be if they didn't.
Personally, the anime episode of Neji's death conveys the casualties a lot better than the manga due to the simple fact that most of you guys probably looked at the corpses as if it was background scenery.
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Let's just disagree. Tsunade was introduced as someone who could not die in a battle that means
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from any kind of injury ( or at least almost any kind of injury.) In fact she can regenerate any organ or body damaged body part.
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Orochimaru had noted that even after being injured in a deadly manner she had moved fast enough to save Naruto back then even. So she can die only after she has exhausted all her chakra of which she had plenty. Then, while fighting her chakra was replenished twice- By Dan and by Karin.
Then again, during war arc everyone has been fighting with improved chakra levels. Let's just say experience made them able to use it more efficient in using it economically but at fullest.
After all Kakashi had explained Naruto back in Zabuza arc that better control at chakra means being able to do more with less of it. :snick:And yea it would be fun to see how Kishi writes it if he writes about it at all. The stories I read about Indra and Asura as a kid almost always ended up in Indra running to Shiva, Vishnu or Shakti for help after he ( and his army of Devas) got a thorough beating by one Asura or an Asura army. And then it was actually one of those three who would tame Asura back and make him/them leave Indra alone.
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