no plot holes, dudes getting mad for nothing

[uchiahjay]

That chapter was awesome if you ask me, and yea i dont believe in plot holes, if anything this clears my doubt about kishsi's writing, now its been confirmed that kishi has really finished writing the story, he's just releasing them now, tobi is obito was always so predictable, but you guys delusion made you change theory, and you expected more, even when kishi tried to cushin your fall by linking kamui to tobi and kakashi, you were still in denial, so all we can do now is wait and see the relationship tobi has with everybody.

Sasuke said he wants to meet the one that knows everything, maybe thats tobi and if it is wow

 

[King Cobra]

No plot holes? Really I've seen Tobito fans admit there were plot holes but there still excited...come on man you gotta admit the Obivously plot holes.

 

[blackstar9]

I agree 100 percent , People always say kishi trolls people and characters . I say its his manga he can write what he wants . I even heard people say they are done with naruto because......The story is not going how they wanted it too! LMAO

 

[ElSayo]

I liked the chapter and it didn't bother me that tobi was revealed as obito. But it's true that kishi has a lot explaining to do.

 

[SilverSlick]

Oh, there's plot holes.

 

[Arsenicpop]

There are a bit of plot holes... but still good story none the less.
*Tobi Fanboy thank you! lol.

 

[blackstar9]

No plot holes? Really I've seen Tobito fans admit there were plot holes but there still excited...come on man you gotta admit the Obivously plot holes.[/QUOTE

no plotholes !!!! just because kishi doesnt tell us exactly when we want doesnt make it a plot hole . He reveals all things sometime during the series.The details on obito is no different

 

[dominicansharingan]

There are no PLOT-HOLES!!!??? ARE YOU FUC$ING MENTALLY CHALLENGE? WTF! Hey just take a second,take a look at the link in my signature. After that you can delete this dumb thread and

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[Dihajum3]

WTF is wrong with people claiming there are No plot holes..I don't want to be dis respective, but are u guys in the right frame of mind ?!
The Age plot hole.
Madara knowing Obito.
Gain of immense strength and knowledge in less than a year.
Minato or kakashi not recognizing His chakra
The Two Sharingans.
Controlling of yagura.
Tobi showing his face to kisame who identified him as madara.
Tobi giving the rinnegan to Nagato which "belonged to him"

These are just to name a few and while you may explain some of them, you'll have to make strong assumptions to do so.

There ARE plot holes and Kishi WILL sort them out..But tagging the whole Tobi = obito thing as "Obvious" is ignorant to say the least.

 

[uchiahjay]

I liked the chapter and it didn't bother me that tobi was revealed as obito. But it's true that kishi has a lot explaining to do.

^^, this, this is right, kishi has explaning to do, and if he cant give us a logical explanation, then we can conclude on plot holes, but as for now 'sweeeeeeeeet'

 

[Rosco Wellington]

That chapter was awesome if you ask me, and yea i dont believe in plot holes, if anything this clears my doubt about kishsi's writing, now its been confirmed that kishi has really finished writing the story, he's just releasing them now, tobi is obito was always so predictable, but you guys delusion made you change theory, and you expected more, even when kishi tried to cushin your fall by linking kamui to tobi and kakashi, you were still in denial, so all we can do now is wait and see the relationship tobi has with everybody.

Sasuke said he wants to meet the one that knows everything, maybe thats tobi and if it is wow

So obito fought the forth hokage? That's not a plot hole? Assassinated the uchihas with itachi? The fact that obito is tobi dosent bother me one bit. The fact that it makes ABSOULUTLY NO SENSE is what urks the crap out of me.

 

[Yo pappy]

No plot holes? Really I've seen Tobito fans admit there were plot holes but there still excited...come on man you gotta admit the Obivously plot holes.

This, and yes, it was BEYOND obvious. That wasn't the problem though, the problem was holding out on something that was so obvious for so freaking long that made people think otherwise, and thus killed it. Either way I will reserve judgement until the explanation is given.

 

[b1azeph0en1x]

I agree except for the plot holes thing. There were some.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

WTH did you say there are no plot holes ?? U_U i guess you have a point when you say that people expected too much , its just that people love naruto and thought kishi would be more creative and would make a more exciting and balanced manga. me i read/watch whats interesting and creative (can amaze me) and what kishi did lately was not special in anyway

 

[Talal]

He did create many plotholes, but most of them can still be explained later. What annoys me is that he completely ****ed up the timeline, and that he can't fix.

 

[Blaze Release]

If i was to sit here and list the amount of plot holes that kishi has created you'd want to close your thread and admit defeat.

 

[Chatte]

Than how would you explain this?

Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.

What my questions/remarks are:

1. Why the indirect hate towards the whole Senju clan that Tobi has shown unless being a very old character?

2. Why Kishi would write the few sentences as this: "Obito?" If it would've been a 100% sure it would've been a full stop or a exclamation mark?

Question mark is used in connection with an 100% uncomplete information, it means there is a missing data there.

If it would've been a full stop it would've represented an undenied piece of evidence. Still Kishi used a question mark meaning the evidence is not 100% accurate/missing data.

3. As well as the phrase construction "It has been confirmed: his name is Obito!"

There Kishi confirms things, it gives us the information that the name is Obito, not the whole person. If it would've been a 100% certain information that Tobi is Obito as a whole, it wouldn't have been necessary for Kishi to add an explanatory note, yet he did it to bring an explanatory note about the name being Obito.

So until isn't 100% sure that Tobi is Obito, until Tobi stated himself, yes, I am Tobi, even though it's a 0.01% chances of being someone else, I am doubting this as it still leaves open possibilities.

It would have been logical for Kishi to mislead to add all those details that took to Obito in order to mess with our minds.

My guess is that it is his body, but there is someone else in there, meaning the counsciousness/soul of another person.

Or it is his consciousness but another body very similar to Tobi's.

True that you were very close.
You were actually very accurate on the indicative details that would make us believing that actually, yes, Tobi is Obito or the timeline of the events having some connection with the timeline of the events of Obito's ones.

He could even play with our mind making Tobi to state that he was Obito which again would be an 100% that he would be Obito. But we know that Kishi made this character to be a bit of a lier. What if in a singular panel, later on, when he would be by himself or with Zetsu/Madara, he will state something like "I told them I am Obito in order to play with their minds?" or something very similar to that. Wouldn't that be a second mind-f*ck (excuse my language) given to us by Kishi?

So until Kishimoto comes with an undeniable proof that he is indeed Obito, that still leaves open possibilities, as I've stated before.

What if is indeed his mind and body, but actually somewhere in the back there is God knows what whose using Tobi's counsciousness with a jutsu or something like that? What if it is his body that gave a full access to his memories but someone else is there. Like in Queen of the Damned movie (a vampire one) where when you bit someone and had his blood you had full access to his memories. Body includes the brain, the brain stores memories.

The perfect match to play with someone's mind.

Also, something to note, that rumor who was viral these days on the internet would pretty much fit the whole scenario of Tobi = Obito but is not actually Obito, is Izuna.

Because if you remember, it was said that it was indeed, Izuna BUT he will bring a lot of suffer thus implying the fact that looking like Obito will mind-blow Kakashi and everyone else who once knew Obito.

Also that was supposed to be an unleaked information by someone close to Kishimoto that instantly would blow-away the whole impact on the fanbase. But, Kishi as being smart (hope he is because of not... I don't know what to say U_U) made us once again fall into astonishment, as we move our beliefs regarding the rumor.

Than, he comes again later on (still have to see when) and show us Tobi as being Izuna and once again we will be mind-blown. So he got the impact he wanted in the first place EVEN THOUGH the information was leaked.

Nonetheless, we have to wait.

Yes, he had been exposed, but why do I have the feeling that he wanted to be exposed? He is portrayed as a character who wants to play with people's mind and use undeniable true facts twisted to his own advantage.

And here we have to take into consideration the whole Sasuke story.
Indeed, he told Sasuke what happened to Itachi but he did it that way, that would suit his preferences.

Same things could happen with Kakashi as well. Using undeniable facts to his own benefit although they differ in perspective.

If it's not Obito and is Izuna, the whole information he got after the timeline of his events would be easily explained thanks to Zetsu. But to explain Obito's timeline events with what happens now, is a lot harder.

The expose thing I was reffering about him wanted to be exposed when he adressed to Kakashi/Gai.
That would be from where his mind-twisting plan starts.