No matter how you slice it Naruto fanboys!

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@Smd, Exaar. You're welcome

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so? you need the scan where sasuke ask tobi for itachi's eyes to beat naruto?

 

[Johndoesknowall]

lol then why make such a false statement if you had knowledge that it wasnt true?


Soz but CM risk> SM

You have to risk your life twice in order to even gain level 2

What I'm saying is CM is a power given to Sasuke and Not originally his. Whatever your trying to state against doesn't make any sense. For you should know that if you're given power externally and even if you improve or upgrade with it, it still is an external power that is not originally yours.

If you disagree, tell me why exactly instead of going off topic and talking about death.

 

[Smd]

@Smd, Exaar. You're welcome

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basically this is proof of what i said.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yes, Asura is literally about to stab Tsunade in the face when Naruto notices. He counters in like, a millisecond.
This is an incredible speed feat that does put him up with the fastest characters.

No its not. Since naruto was displayed first watching over tsunade, he was well aware of an attack. Naruto proceeded to intercept as soon as asura charged. No shit happened in milliseconds there.

As i said naruto is slower then raikages.

 

[-Sky-]

No its not. Since naruto was displayed first watching over tsunade, he was well aware of an attack. Naruto proceeded to intercept as soon as asura charged. No shit happened in milliseconds there.

As i said naruto is slower then raikages.

Oh? Show me the scan that shows Naruto charging in between those two moments. Lol

Oh right, there isn't one.

Naruto is watching when Tsunade's about to get stabbed

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Then crushes pein before he reaches.

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You keep dreaming, I'll keep reading

 

[Johndoesknowall]

ok its clear your like the others. wont waste another second with a troll.

CM isnt handed and is more risker than learning SM

troll less

CM is almost like other experiments Orochimaru has done with risk. The power he gives you has risk, but that does not make it yours originally. I am not a troll. But I believe someone who won't explain there statement is.

So tell me why it is his original power and not an external one given?

 

[Exaar]

ok its clear your like the others. wont waste another second with a troll.

CM isnt handed and is more risker than learning SM

troll less

Sm is learn't through training and gaining the ability to use natural chakra.

Cm is Givin by Orochimaru biting you on your neck and handing you the power.

CM is a handed power, But it does carry risks.

 

[Smd]

CM is almost like other experiments Orochimaru has done with risk. The power he gives you has risk, but that does not make it yours originally. I am not a troll. But I believe someone who won't explain there statement is.

So tell me why it is his original power and not an external one given?

explain your previous post then.

"Death was nothing to do with CM, why are you goinf off topic."

ive explained why CM is more risker than SM.

And if you think CM is a handed power than by that logic so is SM.

Or are you going to deny that as well

 

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So ****ing what? Naruto wasnt just standing there until asura gets to tsunade. Or did you want 10 panels of running to get the obvious?
Do you also think asura just teleported to tsunade cuz it wasnt shown him running?
If naruto was shawn after asura next to tsuna then i'd buy your BS.

are you that butthurt it clearly shown naruto one minute on the toads and the next second crushing asura. are you saying that asura froze in front of tsunade and waited for naruto to run up and hit him?

 

[Smd]

Sm is learn't through training and gaining the ability to use natural chakra.

Cm is Givin by Orochimaru biting you on your neck and handing you the power.

CM is a handed power, But it does carry risks.

Man i must be getting PUNK'd

SM doesnt require training? SMH

CM risk> SM risk

based on manga fact


Nobody TRAINING TO UNLOCK SM is knocked out

Nobody TRAINING TO UNLOCK SM has to DIE in order to achieve the next stage


SM only risk are being turnt into a staue or a frog.

 

[-Sky-]

So ****ing what? Naruto wasnt just standing there until asura gets to tsunade. Or did you want 10 panels of running to get the obvious?
Do you also think asura just teleported to tsunade cuz it wasnt shown him running?
If naruto was shawn after asura next to tsuna then i'd buy your BS.

One panel shows Naruto looking.

Next shows him crushing.

Nothing in between. Why? Because it happened so fast. That was the point. To showcase Naruto's incredible speed in Sage Mode.

You're just insinuating a load of BS to suit your views. You have nothing to back yourself up. The manga directly contradicts you.

 

[Exaar]

Man i must be getting PUNK'd

SM doesnt require training? SMH

CM risk> SM risk

based on manga fact


Nobody TRAINING TO UNLOCK SM is knocked out

Nobody TRAINING TO UNLOCK SM has to DIE in order to achieve the next stage

Risks doesn't change the fact that something is a handed down power.

For the bold, Guess you missed the part when if you don't controll sage chakra right to turn to stone huh?.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

They are both relying on borrowed power, naruto especially but at the end of the day they both deserve their power and they have worked hard for it

 

[Fecal Matter]

So ****ing what? Naruto wasnt just standing there until asura gets to tsunade. Or did you want 10 panels of running to get the obvious?
Do you also think asura just teleported to tsunade cuz it wasnt shown him running?
If naruto was shawn after asura next to tsuna then i'd buy your BS.

Reported.

and SM enhances speed Jiraiya blitzed Pein twice using his imperfect Sage mode.

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Perfect Sage Mode gives everything imperfect provides but better.

 

[Berserker]

There were others in konoha. Why did they brought kushina from entire other country to be kurama's jin. Explain this!!
You already said SM is a UZUMAKI bloodline tech IN bold. How come you say two comments with no proof and you're also claiming you're right? this is just waste of time.................................

I didn't say that. I said without a good stamina body it means no sage mode. Without his uzamaki blood he would have not have good stamina which means no sage mode. Why are you pretending to be oblivious to this fact.

Kushina is the Kurama jin because someone else in her clan was the jin. Uzamaki and Konoha were already in good ties because of Hashi/Mito relation. There is nothing stating another person outside of the Uzamaki can't host the nine tails. Jinchuriki's have been made outside the Uzamaki clan.

 

[Murasame]

I'll give you that. Naruto isn't sure if he can beat Ms Sasuke at his currentl level. But that can be taken in quite a few different contexts. Such as Naruto not believing he has it in him to kill his supposed best friend at this current time. I'm iffy on this. I'd need more solid proof to believe it to be honest.

This is the better reliable scan in my opinion

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I believe its the viz scan.. don't let AC troll you with that scan he provided lol
But I think MS Sasuke can take SM Naruto

 

[AlphaScythian]

are you that butthurt it clearly shown naruto one minute on the toads and the next second crushing asura. are you saying that asura froze in front of tsunade and waited for naruto to run up and hit him?

Its actually shown asura flying towards tsunade in one panel, then asura next to tsunade in 2nd panel in third panel its shown naruto intercepting asura. While asura was flying naruto took same course of action and greatly benefited from gravity on his side to achieve greater speed and succeed.
Nothing indicates one second timeframe from 1st to 3rd panel mentioned above.

You're welcome, that i taught you how to read manga

 

[Johndoesknowall]

explain your previous post then.

"Death was nothing to do with CM, why are you goinf off topic."

ive explained why CM is more risker than SM.

And if you think CM is a handed power than by that logic so is SM.

Or are you going to deny that as well

SM can be seen as both external and original. As we know everyone can't learn SM. But if you can then you have the power to take in external power from outside and use it. By going in to SM you are using natural energy from the outside. So it can be in both categories depending on the details in which you're talking about it.

Your original power would be the power to absorb natural energy and the external power would be using the power gained from the outside.

Because you believe SM is more riskier doesn't mean it is his original power. Every jutsu has some some sort or risk and some are worst then others. But it still does not change whether its original or given.


Death is a risk of CM, if you survive it, it still is not your original power. For all you do is unlock and lock it. CM does everything else.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Reported.

and SM enhances speed Jiraiya blitzed Pein twice using his imperfect Sage mode.

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and

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Perfect Sage Mode gives everything imperfect provides but better.

Lol? Difference from perfect to imperfect toads SM is in balancing energy ratios.

Jiraya could blitz cuz he had speed of 5 enhanced by SM not of 3.5 as of naruto.

 

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Its actually shown asura flying towards tsunade in one panel, then asura next to tsunade in 2nd panel in third panel its shown naruto intercepting asura. While asura was flying naruto took same course of action and greatly benefited from gravity on his side to achieve greater speed and succeed.
Nothing indicates one second timeframe from 1st to 3rd panel mentioned above.

You're welcome, that i taught you how to read manga

what ever helps to sleep at night asura was right in front of tsunade when naruto was on top of a toad he was so fast none of the own peins saw him coming if he was running slow wouldnt asura and the others with shared vision see him so he could avoid the hit? get out of your delusional world dude.