No matter how you slice it Naruto fanboys!

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Without Kurama, Pein wouldn't come after Naruto and Naruto wouldn't have learned how to enter Sennin Mōdo. Minato would still be dead because he would have sacrificed his life when he fought Kurama and Naruto didn't save Sasuke's ass. Looks like you missed the part where Sasuke awakened Sharingan and kicked Haku's ass, but Naruto got in the way and Sasuke saved him from Haku's needles.

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1. i dont see why jiraya cant take naruto on
mount myōboku without pain. 2. minato sacrifice his life only because kurama 3. naruto save sasuke ass fromfinal destruction.
 

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Kushina would still remain Kurama's Jinchūriki since Minato planned for her to stay alive.

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how would kushina remain the jin when the bijuu was rampaging on the outskirts of the town????? if minato had died there all the uchihas would have died aswell and the hidden leaf flatten.
 

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i dont see know proof?

thought so. just another BS Post.

let me solo you some more.

Sasuke saved naruto first

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And naruto is to stupid to learn any of his clans techi as proven


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1. and naruto saved sasuke second. 2. who can teach naruto uzumaki tech?
Naruto isn't stupid fangirl. He's ignorant..
i dont see naruto ignorant like in beginning of the series.
 
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LOL dis is very hot of ze thread
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And I see, autism continues to intensify
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You want one simple proof? Amaterasu. Without the speed that matches Ay's Bājon Tsū Raiton no Yoroi, Naruto cannot evade it. Even if he does have sensory capabilities in Sennin Mōdo, that doesn't make him faster.​

Actually that's not true. Naruto's speed in Sage Mode is extremely fast.

Pein Path is an inch from Tsunade's face, while Naruto is watching.

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Next Naruto is crushing him. That was incredible speed.

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Pair that with danger sensing and he can evade Amaterasu.
 

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1. i dont see why jiraya cant take naruto on
mount myōboku without pain. 2. minato sacrifice his life only because kurama 3. naruto save sasuke ass fromfinal destruction.

Jiraiya took on Naruto as a student only because he had Kurama sealed inside of himself as far as I remember and because he had no parents. Kushina would still be alive.

Naruto didn't save Sasuke. Are you bringing up your fanfiction again? Sasuke would have defeated Haku alone if it wasn't for Naruto. Haku used Naruto to his advantage by throwing his needles at him and Sasuke came in between the needless and took the hit instead so that he could save Naruto.​
 

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Sasuke borrowed Orochimaru's CS since part1 because he was weak without it
Itachi litterally gave MS to Sasuke
Obito gave EMS to Sasuke
He borrowed Juugo and Naruto's/Minato's chakra against Jubito

What were you saying about borrowing something?
 

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is thats the best reply you could come up with ? the say i'm in denial lol

im not going to repeat myself.

EMS isnt a borrowed power, its the next step for uchiha after MS.


Kurama is a living charka beast, given to naruto to be able to handle one day, but he still needed help in the end.
 

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im not going to repeat myself.

EMS isnt a borrowed power, its the next step for uchiha after MS.


Kurama is a living charka beast, given to naruto to be able to handle one day, but he still needed help in the end.

and how do you take that next step without someone else eyes? please elaborate smd?
 

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Actually that's not true. Naruto's speed in Sage Mode is extremely fast.

Pein Path is an inch from Tsunade's face, while Naruto is watching.

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Next Naruto is crushing him. That was incredible speed.

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Pair that with danger sensing and he can evade Amaterasu.

I'll have to disagree. That doesn't grant him the speed that matches Ay's Bājon Tsū Raiton no Yoroi which is needed in order to evade Amaterasu. Anything slower than that will be hit with Amaterasu. The fact is that even Kabuto in Sennin Mōdo couldn't react to Amaterasu. [ ] He almost stepped on it and he barely managed to slow himself down so that he doesn't run into the Amaterasu. If Sasuke aimed Amaterasu on him instead on the floor in front of him, it would have landed on Kabuto.

And from feats, we can conclude that Kabuto is faster than Naruto in Sennin Mōdo.​
 

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Sasuke borrowed Orochimaru's CS since part1 because he was weak without it
Itachi litterally gave MS to Sasuke
Obito gave EMS to Sasuke
He borrowed Juugo and Naruto's/Minato's chakra against Jubito

What were you saying about borrowing something?

lol. bogard stop

-CS isnt borrowed, the user isnt promised power
-Itachi didnt give Sasuke MS, He pushed him into it, Did give him Amatersu i think
-Obito forced sasuke into takeing EMS, Remember the kage summit, Obito ordered zetsu to set sasuke up

thus wearing out his MS

- He borrowed juggos power, second part was for plot


Kurama still shits on the above and from that list i only see 2 borrowed powers
 

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Yeah LOL this thread, probably the sole reason I barely come to NDS, well anyways zaru is sweet
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I've seen it a lot lately, but what does "NDS" mean? O_O
 

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I'll have to disagree. That doesn't grant him the speed that matches Ay's Bājon Tsū Raiton no Yoroi which is needed in order to evade Amaterasu. Anything slower than that will be hit with Amaterasu. The fact is that even Kabuto in Sennin Mōdo couldn't react to Amaterasu. [ ] He almost stepped on it and he barely managed to slow himself down so that he doesn't run into the Amaterasu. If Sasuke aimed Amaterasu on him instead on the floor in front of him, it would have landed on Kabuto.

And from feats, we can conclude that Kabuto is faster than Naruto in Sennin Mōdo.​
yet SM naruto blitz'ed and deflected a attack from the third raikage one finger spear which is faster than ay.
 

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Actually that's not true. Naruto's speed in Sage Mode is extremely fast.

Pein Path is an inch from Tsunade's face, while Naruto is watching.

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Next Naruto is crushing him. That was incredible speed.

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Pair that with danger sensing and he can evade Amaterasu.
Thats is BS. Naruto is displayed first in panels then asura path. Next panel display that naruto managed to intercept asura, infront of tsunade not that he reacted to attack that late. Naruto's speed in SM is inferior to raikages, perception and tracking is another thing.
 

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No matter how you look at it, Sasuke is only strong because his abilities were given to him. He got the Sharingan from being born an Uchiha. He unlocked it by getting his ass kicked. His training with Orochimaru was said to have been done with alot of drugs to enhance his body. Itachi let himself be killed by Sasuke and gave Sasuke the Mangekyou. Then Sasuke took his dead brother's eyes because he was too weak alone.

No matter how you slice it. Sasuke didn't obtain any of his powers himself. Naruto atleast had to fight kurama and risk death and then earn his respect and friendship.

Even if you took away Kurama, that still left Naruto with Sage Mode. If you took away all the abilities Sasuke got given to him, he'd have a normal Sharingan with no Mangekyou and his physical abilities would be drastically reduced.

Naruto > Sasuke. Suck it up and move on.

I hate post like this. So let me correct you.

Where was it stated that Orochimaru fed Sasuke drugs to enhance his body? I'm sure I read somewhere in the manga that drugs were need for CM for some reason, whether to suppress the side effects or for better control but that was about it. Please show me this scan.

Itachi did let himself die but he did not give Sasuke the Mangekyou, Sasuke awoken from watching Itachi die. Yes, itachi knew he would attain it from the sight of his death but do not put it in the sense of itachi giving him something that he had the power to unlock in his own his way.

The only Powers given to Sasuke were CM and EMS, any other power was learned, or awakened.
 

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yet SM naruto blitz'ed and deflected a attack from the third raikage one finger spear which is faster than ay.

And yet, he only ducked down so he could avoid Sandaime's hand, he didn't use his speed to jump or run out of the way. That is not going to help him against Amaterasu.​
 

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No @bold that's not true and also not proven. Their have been other jins. Konoha owned the Kyuubi this is why Uzamaki's had Kurama. The Uzamaki's all had great life force perfect to control the nine tails. The manga dictates you need good stamina to learn SM. Please don't insult me when I'm right and you're the one making up stuff.

Sharigan is in his blood. That's like taking away Naruto Uzamaki abilities which mean no sage mode. MS is a natural change and EMS is the next progression. So what if he took his brothers eyes? How does that equate to feeding off the strongest single entity in existence in the Narutoverse. Itachi's power isn't a borrowed one, Itachi does not live on through Sasuke, feed him info and give him chakra.

There were others in konoha. Why did they brought kushina from entire other country to be kurama's jin. Explain this!!
You already said SM is a UZUMAKI bloodline tech IN bold. How come you say two comments with no proof and you're also claiming you're right? this is just waste of time.................................
 

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working on your next bann i see. you ppl are sad, if you dont like the thread, why sit in it and cry n moan?

just leave




nope CM isnt handed

did he work for it ? no did he unlock it ? heck no did train for it reach level 2 ? nah that was just handed to him again.
 
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