No Kurama = No Enma = No Akamaru

[chaos control]

I've been seeing a lot of two types of threads lately: Hiruzen hype threads and "Kurama isn't Naruto's power" threads. I just want to point out something. To all people who say that BM isn't Naruto's power because Kurama is a sapient being, you are also technically acknowledging that Enma isn't Hiruzen's power (because Enma is also a sapient being). Enma doesn't have to cooperate if he doesn't want to. While I'm at it, I might as well throw in the fact that this means that the Inuzuka clan has virtually no power (but this is almost irrelevant since I don't know a lot of people who care about that clan). This is just about all I wanted to say. No, I am not trying to start a war about Hiruzen's over all power. I am just saying that Enma is not his power by your logic (and yes some people do treat Enma as Hiruzen's power).

Ps. I'd say that BM is Naruto's power. While it is true that multiple people could become Kurama's jinchuuriki, not everyone could successfully defeat Kurama in battle to get KCM or befriend Kurama to get BM (after all Kurama did not trust a lot of humans). Therefore Naruto did in fact earn this power. Any power that you earn is your power (but that is just my opinion).

Feel free to share your own opinions.

 

[End of Days]

the people who make borrowed power threads dont give a shit about hiruzen or kiba

 

[iBeja]

Sasuke fanboys denying facts.

 

[3MESSIAH]

i agree....that crap about borrowed power is hilarious Lol

 

[Troyg39]

If BM Naruto doesn't count, then Juubito doesn't count, MS Obito doesn't count because his eyes are borrowed, Madara doesn't count because his eyes were borrowed (from his brother) and half his cell structure is borrowed, the list goes on.

If "borrowed power" isn't considered fair in NV then almost all of the elite characters are disqualified

 

[iBeja]

If BM Naruto doesn't count, then Juubito doesn't count, MS Obito doesn't count because his eyes are borrowed, Madara doesn't count because his eyes were borrowed (from his brother) and half his cell structure is borrowed, the list goes on.

If "borrowed power" isn't considered fair in NV then almost all of the elite characters are disqualified

Well everyone borrowed power from the juubi, that chakra.

 

[-Spoiler-]

most of the people that makes the borrow power threads are the same people who fap about katsuyu size Lol

 

[Blunt]

MS Obito doesn't count because his eyes are borrowed

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[iBeja]

What the hell are you talking about?

Rinnegan my son.

 

[Honord Sage]

I wonder if now they will make treads about Sasuke and Jugo sines Jugo acted as Kurama and Emma for Sasuke.

 

[Blunt]

Rinnegan my son.

He said MS, if he is talking about Rinnegan than he should have said "Obito's Rinnegan".

 

[iBeja]

He said MS, if he is talking about Rinnegan than he should have said "Obito's Rinnegan".

MS Obito had the rinnegan.

 

[Blunt]

MS Obito had the rinnegan.

He also had MS as a kid, your point is moot.

 

[iBeja]

He also had MS as a kid, your point is moot.

MS = Rinnegan + sharingan. ''Rinnegan obito '' = should be rinnegan only not rinnegan and ms, how the in world you're going to say rinnegan obito? Since when obito had 2 rinnegans like madara or nagato c.c

 

[Blunt]

MS = Rinnegan + sharingan. ''Rinnegan obito '' = should be rinnegan only not rinnegan and ms, how the in world you're going to say rinnegan obito? Since when obito had 2 rinnegans like madara or nagato c.c

I guess your comprehension skills are lacking, I said Obito's Rinnegan. Not "Rinnegan Obito". Troy should have said Obito's Rinnegan was borrowed. Stop trying so hard, because you obviously aren't doing so well.

By the way, you are literally contradicting yourself in your own post - Bold.

 

[The Necromancer]

Enma and Akamaru AREN'T Hiruzen's and Kiba's power. So i guess that ruins your theory.

 

[BlacLord™]

Well Kiba can make shadow clones, Akamaru is just here for the sake of clan tradition now...

 

[Troyg39]

I guess your comprehension skills are lacking, I said Obito's Rinnegan. Not "Rinnegan Obito". Troy should have said Obito's Rinnegan was borrowed. Stop trying so hard, because you obviously aren't doing so well.

By the way, you are literally contradicting yourself in your own post - Bold.

Do you not remember the giant wall of sharingan eyes he has? Do you not remember him losing an eye when he was younger? Do you not remember him losing an eye when he fought Konan while using Izanagi?

His eyes are borrowed. You should stop trying too hard and learn to read the manga

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

and the people who say kyuubi is narutos power take ET away because they say its not his power

 

[Blunt]

Do you not remember the giant wall of sharingan eyes he has? Do you not remember him losing an eye when he was younger? Do you not remember him losing an eye when he fought Konan while using Izanagi?

His eyes are borrowed. You should stop trying too hard and learn to read the manga

Oh my.. Another dumb post. Obito's MS is his and his alone, he awakened the MS through mental trauma, but I guess you missed that part of the manga. The wall of Sharingan eyes are spares, all from the Uchiha clan massacre. Are you honestly trying to say Kakashi's eye aren't from Obito? Kakashi's borrowed Sharingan didn't come from Obito? This is the logic you have put forth.


His Rinnegan is borrowed, not his Sharingan. This is clear as day, considering both Kakashi and Obito have the same pattern and power with the MS.


Edit: Just to clear things up, we are talking about Rinnegan and MS, not his fucking right eye he replaced with a normal 3 tomoe Sharingan.