No forests on (flat) earth

shelke · Dec 18, 2016

Interesting. Way outside my area of interest, but I might read into this. Thank you sharing.

YowYan · Dec 20, 2016

Jean Grey said:
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Thanks for the reply. I'll respond when I don't need to rush my words

Avani · Dec 21, 2016

YowYan said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll respond when I don't need to rush my words

Not a problem. While looking on this topic I found some other rock formation theories of similar nature and learned something myself that worries me differently- These new theories somehow always ultimately get back to " the great Aryans". This search for great Aryan past in supposed " Aryans" of Europe is getting ridiculous.

YowYan · Jan 12, 2017

Jean Grey said:
Either way for a tree to be petrified preserving it's original structure- you still need other minerals to replace the original material the tree were made of. And to save any original plant structure it has to be a very slow process and no, it won't be basalt lava replacing those plant cells just like that. Comparing it to thin stem cell images and fantasizing basalt penetrating the giant plant cells individually and solidifying like that is erroneous. What do you think the cell walls of those plants were made of? Lava will simply burn them down, if it penetrated the tree.

What preserves a tree/animal that didn't burn down already by heat from lava, is lava itself, which makes a cast of lava around it. Thus while the tree or animal dies due to heat and suffocation, the caste saves the body from further damage from more lava. Lack of oxygen supply inside the caste stops further burning too. Later on when the lava has solidified and developed some cracks minerals trickle down through water and other natural agencies and slowly replace the tissues making crystals of these new minerals. Iron, quartz etc.

Thinking of organisms having their rotting process halted by having been coated with lava.. I would need to spend more time on this process and that of the beautifully petrified trees that are mentioned in the theory. Would it be a possibility that the petrified trees in Nevada formed by a coating of lava? Which beckons another question. Why are there no signs of such coating on the petrified trees?

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Jean Grey said:
I meant that in the least you can see the 'material' that rock is formed comes from a volcanic activity and not from any "tree". Also I think you are focusing on lava flow and not on rocks structure from previous flow. You can see mini blocks on the sides.

Yes, I saw those but I thought you were referring to the fresh flow of lava in the process of drying up. Silly, I know.

Jean Grey said:
You didn't notice a horizontal banding of similar nature indicating another cooling surface from another front. Take a closer look at these columns to see two sets of columns, opposing each other:

I actually saw it as soon as I finished my post but didn't bother editing away that part. Had to get out of bed early that same morning.

Jean Grey said:
Didn't I post another image of these rocks even before..

Edit: yes I did. One of the links I posted earlier, had the Fingal caves aka 'sandwiched' columns. You didn't check it out now did you..

Kavadiya Pahad ( pahad= hill) hasn't been explored much yet. It may have bigger rock columns inside.

Sadly, of your entire post I only skipped two spoiler tags and one of the more important pieces for your standpoint and this was one of the two. ._. my bad.

Jean Grey said:
I'm not sure what you are referring to as in "not being convinced". Unlike magma stage, lava is near it's freezing point already. It's going to cool down eventually. Through heat conduction however poor it maybe, or convection current as air or water moves down those cracks.

Secondly not all the volume you see is from one go. These are results of layer upon layers of lava from repeated eruptions. Contraction patterns may vary and may not be perfect if, for example, the thickness or composition of the lava flow varies.

It has been a few weeks but I think that I was referring to a columnar structure you showed that had a perfectly flat top as many of the pro-claimed silicon tree stumps;(having flat tops) Why and how would that flat surface form is what my question was.

Jean Grey said:
Don't get me wrong but- You are quick to point out if I question depth of your " studies" as heated, despite the fact that I can see you didn't use google enough on this topic either. Let alone study the subject itself. And no I'm not saying you lied. But the subjects like this require a certain level of special expertise. Even if you looked in to scientific " claims" as you say, you probably only gave a glance to it's theories. And it's just human nature that in doing so we tend to pay more weight on arguments presented by those with whom our own way of thinking matches. Because they sound more logical to us for thinking in a way according to our inclination.

At the same time you snapped at a few people before I started posting seriously. You think that's not heated? I had given you the reference point- shroom comment was on the youtube video you linked. ^^ Though I admit I found that comment amusing, I didn't dismiss your theory just like that and gave my reasons. Didn't I? Maybe I shouldn't have but it was hard to resist.

A few days prior to having seen that amateur theory on the internet; I was ignorant of this topic altogether. It catches my interest, I'm aware it all sounds bizarre and wonder if anyone on a forum would be knowledgeable enough to either debunk it or solidify the theory into something more. I could have done research on my own, but isn't it more fun to have a group of interested/skeptic people discuss it beforehand? What I often do is play devil's advocate. I'd pick one side, knowing it would trigger some and from thereon I gather more information for myself. Meanwhile, people assume I identify with a topic as much as a religious nut identifies with their religion. That's why I said; don't get heated.

I snapped at the others before you because they were both off-topic and pretty much empty in response. That was not the kind of reply I was waiting for. Yours was.

Oh, right. One uploader implies that giant mushroom forests existed at some point in time. That would've been magical and all that. Wishful thinking at best, though. I thought you were referring to me consuming psychedelic mushrooms.

Jean Grey said:
Great. But beware of the pseudo-scientists and pseudo-archeologists.

You should have included the methodology used by geologists before they give a theory in your consideration, before proceeding with a new one saying they fail entirely and are not convincing. e.g. Basalt rocks being basalt rocks is not a theory. So do you think it's possible to have silica plant life on the earth surface?

Silica plant life on earth as it is now? No. Maybe a bunch of million years ago, it was possible. But I'd have to look up some sources revolving around this question of yours.

Avani · Jan 12, 2017

YowYan said:
Thinking of organisms having their rotting process halted by having been coated with lava.. I would need to spend more time on this process and that of the beautifully petrified trees that are mentioned in the theory. Would it be a possibility that the petrified trees in Nevada formed by a coating of lava? Which beckons another question. Why are there no signs of such coating on the petrified trees?

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Hmm I have forgotten most of it myself and only remembered the caste bit and process of petrification thus the theory. But I wasn't talking about those particular fossils and it seems slightly incorrect. I re-checked and you are not likely to find that kind of petrification in lava flow. The vague recollection of bodies from Pompeii turned out to be POP pored in those castes of volcanic ash. Lava does make a caste but usually the organic material still gets burned out (instantly baked and burned by the heat )and what you get inside such a caste are harder parts like bones or just impressions and shape preserved within. For neat petrification of wood like that petrified forest, it has to be instantly buried in sediments or ash or mudflow after falling into water, instead of hot liquid lava.

The petrified trees of Nevada were not buried in lava but sediments after falling in to a lake/waterbody, formed by a collapsed volcanic crater as one of the studies put it.