[Theory] Night Elephant is Greater than Juubi Bijuu bomb

[Senju Bean]

The incomplete Juubi tanked its own Bijuu bomb with no injuries whatsoever.

But Madara, as the Juubi Jin, is far more durable than the Juubi in every way.

Yet he was gushing blood from his mouth after getting hit by Gai's Elephant.

This means that Gai's attack is actually more powerful than a Juubi TBB. It doesn't have as wide of a radius of effect, but the impact is more concentrated.

Finally, 4 giant TBB did absolutely nothing to the black shield that Juubito put up.

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But Gai's Night Elephant was able to punch Madara through his own shield.

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[ShishaMastah420]

Darfuq?

Literally?

No
No no
No no no

 

[Senju Bean]

Darfuq?

Literally?

No
No no
No no no

But Madara surely can tank a TBB. The Juubi did it so therefore its Jin could.

 

[mat2720]

if the blast radius isn't as big then clearly it isn't as powerful... n who cares if its more concentrated on a smaller scale... it doesn't mean its more powerful, yeh it might penetrate armour easier than something that has a wide blast radius but the damage taken isn't necessarily bigger... either way your just plain wrong, madara isn't going to be beaten down by gai, probably barely even weakened by him, hes merely surprised that gai is giving him a hard time at the level madara is fighting at currently which is not his full strength anyways.

 

[immortal sage]

I think that night elephant is stronger than tbb but not everyone will agree with this

 

[ShishaMastah420]

But Madara surely can tank a TBB. The Juubi did it so therefore its Jin could.

Both techniques are within same power scale, but as far as destructive-ness I doubt it, if you re-read the recent Manga you can see that Madara literally ate the Evening Elephant for Brunch... Sure he gushed some blood and was overwhelmed initially by Gai's speed and tenacity, but I'm Chalking all of this up to he fact that Madara sees Gai and the rest as a bunch of ants, which is why he is not going all out and has his guard down most of the time, until someone tries to attack then he subtly puts up some defense.

 

[Narutoga]

Obito used the black orb to tank 4 juubi bomb with the explosion confined in a barrier, madara's PS even got demolished.....yet gai punched juubi jin madara through that same orb (probably even stronger )......well only stupid people will argue that gai's attack is not stronger than a TBB

 

[YellowFang]

In your literal sense... NO!

But Eve Elephant is more effective in a battle...

 

[Senju Bean]

Both techniques are within same power scale, but as far as destructive-ness I doubt it, if you re-read the recent Manga you can see that Madara literally ate the Evening Elephant for Brunch... Sure he gushed some blood and was overwhelmed initially by Gai's speed and tenacity, but I'm Chalking all of this up to he fact that Madara sees Gai and the rest as a bunch of ants, which is why he is not going all out and has his guard down most of the time, until someone tries to attack then he subtly puts up some defense.

The second stage Juubi doesn't even have a mind. It just stood there defenselessly. So in a sense, it let its guard down even more than Madara. Yet the Juubi still tanked its own TBB.

The Juubi Jin must be able to do the same. The Juubi Jin is greater than the Juubi in every single way. Every.

 

[flyboyissac]

I guess we can't ignore facts but to bad it will be ignored anyways I can see someone saying he needed help to hit madara not really nobody told minato to join matter gai could had most likely dodged it with his speed a d since he uses air it just makes it easier

 

[Ohhdang]

Hmm it's hard to say. He did punch Madara half a mile through the ground and crack his horn so that's gotta mean something

 

[Forum no Jutsu]

I think it's hard to compare. One is a taijutsu, the other one a ninjutsu. Also, taijutsu or senjutsu attacks are the only things that work on madara, so the Night Elephant will undoubtedly deal more damage to Madara that a Bijuudama.

 

[Yocolaw]

if the blast radius isn't as big then clearly it isn't as powerful... n who cares if its more concentrated on a smaller scale... it doesn't mean its more powerful, yeh it might penetrate armour easier than something that has a wide blast radius but the damage taken isn't necessarily bigger... either way your just plain wrong, madara isn't going to be beaten down by gai, probably barely even weakened by him, hes merely surprised that gai is giving him a hard time at the level madara is fighting at currently which is not his full strength anyways.

Lol u forgot dude guy was gonna open the 8gates on the 7 bijuus that attacked him and kakashi it wouldve pressured them all and puch a whole thru there face man

 

[Sageflash]

I think it's hard to compare. One is a taijutsu, the other one a ninjutsu. Also, taijutsu or senjutsu attacks are the only things that work on madara, so the Night Elephant will undoubtedly deal more damage to Madara that a Bijuudama.

This guy gets it. Hard to compare the two adequately within equal confines.

 

[Ultimateone]

think about this, first they kamui'd away part of the sphere so gai could punch madara. they would not have done that if he could in fact punch through it anyway. also add to the fact we have seen rasengans peirce though the omnyoudon also( see when naruto had the rookies use his rasengans). now when he landed the punch on madara he was able to break through the other side, but take into account that the omnyoudon seems to be willpower/focused based. madara had just gotten a huge punch landed and was in pain so logically the sphere would be weaker and easier to break through. also add to the fact that the bijuu dama were not aimed at obito directly, he would have only caught the explosion and not have a direct hit like gai did to madara.

 

[Liquid Swords]

Tai and senjutsu can break jubi Jin defense. Tbb is ninjutsu unless in bsm. As far as jubi tbb which should be natural energy it's tough to say why it had no effect as opposed to gai. No doubt gai's attack is op and probably on par with tbb but I'd say no to jubi tbb

 

[Senju Bean]

I think it's hard to compare. One is a taijutsu, the other one a ninjutsu. Also, taijutsu or senjutsu attacks are the only things that work on madara, so the Night Elephant will undoubtedly deal more damage to Madara that a Bijuudama.

Actually, the Juubi is pure natural energy. It's not Onmyoudon that protected Juubito from the 4 TBB. It's the Jinton like properties that did.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Well I am certain that you proved all necessary evidences to claim that:

Night elephant technique used by Gai in 8th gated Gai state > Juubi bijuu bomb made by Obito as Ten tails host.

but I wouldn't take it as general rule, because we know that Tailed beasts bombs can differ in size(which speaks for amount of chakra /energy put into it), besides some tailed beasts are much more focused or made of more potent chakra meaning much stronger destruction power.

Imo The most powerfull Ten tails Bijuu bomb made by Ten tails host Madara > 8th Gated Gai Night-time elephant.

Maybe even casual TBB from Madara would be sufficent and enough. You can not generalize this statement as far as we are in the manga Madara is still playing nd goofing around, maybe just got serious.

In short: we have to wait and see