[Theory] new theory. sasuke possible redeemed, all an act?

[koldsmok]

i reread the manga all the time, just jump around to whatever i feel like. at the end of chap 414 when taka is trying to take on Killer Bee right before sasuke uses amaterasu he thinks about the rest of team 7. that planted an idea in my head that the entire whole leaving with orochimaru to the entire emo, avenger stage is a master plan to find everyone possibly responsible for the uchiha massacre. in a way it kinda leads me to believe that he knew about madara being responsible before he ever met him, maybe before he left with oro, thats why he went through the fight with itachi. that he really does actually care about the village. maybe in the beginning he did go with oro to get more powerful, but only cuz he didn't think he could get enough with team 7, not for revenge as he makes it all seem. and all the way through with everything he does, as far as i can remember, he is tricking everyone because he always has someone watching him or the possibility of being watched.. madara, kakashi, sakura and naruto as well as everyone else, even itachi. maybe at this point he knows that it was ultimately madaras fault but wants to gain the power to kill him before he tries and is basically using madara to get that power. this is the only way i can convince myself to like him again, just because of the way he acts.

Well what do you guys think, or has this already been posted?

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

i really like this idea....i always thought something similar,just never thought to post it....good topic....

 

[shadedcrow]

i reread the manga all the time, just jump around to whatever i feel like. at the end of chap 414 when taka is trying to take on Killer Bee right before sasuke uses amaterasu he thinks about the rest of team 7. that planted an idea in my head that the entire whole leaving with orochimaru to the entire emo, avenger stage is a master plan to find everyone possibly responsible for the uchiha massacre. in a way it kinda leads me to believe that he knew about madara being responsible before he ever met him, maybe before he left with oro, thats why he went through the fight with itachi. that he really does actually care about the village. maybe in the beginning he did go with oro to get more powerful, but only cuz he didn't think he could get enough with team 7, not for revenge as he makes it all seem. and all the way through with everything he does, as far as i can remember, he is tricking everyone because he always has someone watching him or the possibility of being watched.. madara, kakashi, sakura and naruto as well as everyone else, even itachi. maybe at this point he knows that it was ultimately madaras fault but wants to gain the power to kill him before he tries and is basically using madara to get that power. this is the only way i can convince myself to like him again, just because of the way he acts.

Well what do you guys think, or has this already been posted?

Sauske didnt know of Itachis partner in crime Madara till their battle at the Uchiha hideout he figured there was a third but wanted to know who. But yes Sauske used Orochimaru to learn and grow and master his diffrent juitsus and to hone his occular powers with the regular Sharingan before his battle with Itachi.

But at this point in the anime, and up until Madara lost his eye using Izangi I think Sauske was being controlled by the douchey Madara as well. Right now we dont know all the powers of the MS that Itachi told sauske if you look at the manga it talks about Madara being able to controll the nine tailed beast with the occular powers of the MS and then says he gained a third ability then he gained control of the Uchiha clan.

I'll plus one rep you again for seeing things kind like how I see them.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

soooooo..

he killed Oro

assembled a team to kill Itachi

"killed" Itachi

joined Madara

attacked Bee

attacked the Kages at the summit

killed a whole bunch of samurais in the process

killed Danzo

attempted to kill Karin, Sakura, threatened Kakashi and Naruto

and plans to destroy the Leaf

just to say in the end.......... "Sike!"

nah i doubt it..............

 

[Hemanth]

well.. dont know about that.. it could happen.. but why did he have to kill itachi knowing all this.. the only way saskuke is going to redeem himself is by helping naruto defeat madara in the war.. and itachi(the gift itachi gave naruto) is going to convince sasuke to defeat madara...

 

[shadedcrow]

well.. dont know about that.. it could happen.. but why did he have to kill itachi knowing all this.. the only way saskuke is going to redeem himself is by helping naruto defeat madara in the war.. and itachi(the gift itachi gave naruto) is going to convince sasuke to defeat madara...

Sauske never landed the killing blow against Itachi, if you watch the battle again. Itachi transfered his occular powers as the last physical contact they had. Then Itachi kills over smiling.

 

[Ikari Shinji Kun]

Spoiler

i reread the manga all the time, just jump around to whatever i feel like. at the end of chap 414 when taka is trying to take on Killer Bee right before sasuke uses amaterasu he thinks about the rest of team 7. that planted an idea in my head that the entire whole leaving with orochimaru to the entire emo, avenger stage is a master plan to find everyone possibly responsible for the uchiha massacre. in a way it kinda leads me to believe that he knew about madara being responsible before he ever met him, maybe before he left with oro, thats why he went through the fight with itachi. that he really does actually care about the village. maybe in the beginning he did go with oro to get more powerful, but only cuz he didn't think he could get enough with team 7, not for revenge as he makes it all seem. and all the way through with everything he does, as far as i can remember, he is tricking everyone because he always has someone watching him or the possibility of being watched.. madara, kakashi, sakura and naruto as well as everyone else, even itachi. maybe at this point he knows that it was ultimately madaras fault but wants to gain the power to kill him before he tries and is basically using madara to get that power. this is the only way i can convince myself to like him again, just because of the way he acts.

Well what do you guys think, or has this already been posted?

tl;dr

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Sauske never landed the killing blow against Itachi, if you watch the battle again. Itachi transfered his occular powers as the last physical contact they had. Then Itachi kills over smiling.

I think what he means is that sasuke tried very hard to try and kill itachi to the point of using karin which would have been a true killer blow had itachi not had susanoo.

it might be possible knowing parts of what have happened and hearing itachi's story that he has other intentions in mind which he is keeping from everyone to fool madara.
but at this point, all we can do is speculate.

 

[koldsmok]

I think what he means is that sasuke tried very hard to try and kill itachi to the point of using karin which would have been a true killer blow had itachi not had susanoo.

it might be possible knowing parts of what have happened and hearing itachi's story that he has other intentions in mind which he is keeping from everyone to fool madara.
but at this point, all we can do is speculate.

agreed sir, its just one of many options and my way of not hating sasuke cuz of what he'e done

 

[Heister]

If you read the manga than you should know by now that this can't be an act.

He wanted to destroy the leaf
He tried to kill Sakura
He tried to kill A who had nothing to do with the massacre
He wanted to kill Kakashi

He's just evil right now.

 

[niblack89]

If Naruto shows his powers to the whole world and gains everyone's respect. He then faces Sasuke and converts him. Naruto and Sasuke faces Madara and defeats him. He can be restored and go down as a hero and restores his clans name.

I believe Naruto is the destine child but he isn't the next Rikudo sennin. That goes to both Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto has the spiritual and physical energy and is of Senju descendant. Sasuke has the strong chakra and powerful eyes and is of the Uchiha.

 

[The_Empire]

I like the idea and it maybe true. We will see in the future.

 

[Bhil]

Nah, Sasuke didn't redeem

 

[HybridXia]

soooooo..

he killed Oro

assembled a team to kill Itachi

"killed" Itachi

joined Madara

attacked Bee

attacked the Kages at the summit

killed a whole bunch of samurais in the process

killed Danzo

attempted to kill Karin, Sakura, threatened Kakashi and Naruto

and plans to destroy the Leaf

just to say in the end.......... "Sike!"

nah i doubt it..............

Now that is so true i highly doubt he would intend to kill everyone just so that towards the end he ends up saying it was all part of his plan...

 

[uzumakikenshin]

maybe at the end of it all.. sasuke will still be with naruto... or when all else fails... he would die regretting.. :C

 

[lord niijima]

there is no way that sasuke is acting this out. he is truly immersed in his stupid revenge and now even kills blindly. he has really changed and now not even naruto's talk no jutsu will be able to bring him back. he needs a good old spanking and 1000 bitchslaps to wake him up from his pathetic trance.

 

[Jyuubislayer]

i reread the manga all the time, just jump around to whatever i feel like. at the end of chap 414 when taka is trying to take on Killer Bee right before sasuke uses amaterasu he thinks about the rest of team 7. that planted an idea in my head that the entire whole leaving with orochimaru to the entire emo, avenger stage is a master plan to find everyone possibly responsible for the uchiha massacre. in a way it kinda leads me to believe that he knew about madara being responsible before he ever met him, maybe before he left with oro, thats why he went through the fight with itachi. that he really does actually care about the village. maybe in the beginning he did go with oro to get more powerful, but only cuz he didn't think he could get enough with team 7, not for revenge as he makes it all seem. and all the way through with everything he does, as far as i can remember, he is tricking everyone because he always has someone watching him or the possibility of being watched.. madara, kakashi, sakura and naruto as well as everyone else, even itachi. maybe at this point he knows that it was ultimately madaras fault but wants to gain the power to kill him before he tries and is basically using madara to get that power. this is the only way i can convince myself to like him again, just because of the way he acts.

Well what do you guys think, or has this already been posted?

Sasuke reddemed is nearly impossible after the five kage summit ark. If you haven't read/watched I won't spoil it, but check it out if you haven't yet.