[Discussion] New School systems....

[Donald J Trump]

Schools wasting time and forcing useless subjects down your throat. I realised this quite late but 60% of my time spent in the secondary school was usless. It only became important in year 9 and onward, I could have skipped 7 and 8 and would have had no problems with my exams.

As so much time is wasted, I am wondering what the outcome would be if schools started implementing the following:

1.Lessons to help you understand how to socialise on a weekly basis.

2.Lessons to teach you about your emotions and others emotions, how to keep your cool and react. Functioning in society and avoiding conflict

3. Lessons on public speaking and morals

4.Lessons on how to overcome challenges and break down problems

5. Lessons on how to enjoy life and a simple philosophy of it

In the long run do you not think if these lessons were taught correctly and thoroughly as Maths and Science is our countries in general would function so much better?There would be less crime, better understanding of one another and in general we would be happier.

Why do schools not teach or guide children and teenagers when it comes to the topic of life?

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

Lol who would take these classes seriously tho. The average kid is forced to wake up early and stay in a place they don't want to for 8 hours and now they gotta learn that stuff. It may work in theory but I don't know any kid who'd use take those lessons to heart. Perhaps that's the problem tho, the mentality of the kids rather than the system. Who knows :/

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Lol who would take these classes seriously tho. The average kid is forced to wake up early and stay in a place they don't want to for 8 hours and now they gotta learn that stuff. It may work in theory but I don't know any kid who'd use take those lessons to heart. Perhaps that's the problem tho, the mentality of the kids rather than the system. Who knows :/

I assume that this is in middleschool, where children all take the same classes without true electives, e.g. they are required to take these classes to pass.

Number 4 is the biggest issue in America, nobody knows how to solve problems-- they are trained to memorize and regurgitate. The result of this glowing exception to the rest of the first-world countries is that we are severely lower in Math and Science ranking than the other First World countries.

Finland has students take no homework, very few tests, but have teachers respected and paid like physicians, and they are training students in analysis and reasoning. The result? They are consistently in the top 5 countries in math, science, and language. They also get to bag an extra benefit of being one of the happiest nations on the planet.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Lol who would take these classes seriously tho. The average kid is forced to wake up early and stay in a place they don't want to for 8 hours and now they gotta learn that stuff. It may work in theory but I don't know any kid who'd use take those lessons to heart. Perhaps that's the problem tho, the mentality of the kids rather than the system. Who knows :/

I think you are underestimating consistency. If these lessons were properly carried out and consistent then the kids shouldn't have a problem understanding and liking it.

I don't see how talking and educating In a stressless environment would be so unenjoyable. If there are millions of people that enjoy numbers and letters, I don't see why people wouldn't enjoy this subject especially when the benefits are immediate and very visible.

 

[Illuminater]

I agree. If kids learned to socialize better then you would see a massive decrease in murder rates. Kids are literally sent to school and they barely know how to coney their emotions or what issues they're having. It could probably help with their self esteem too.
I think schools don't focus on that because they expect the parents to do the hard work. But lets be honest, parents are not the most reliable people on Earth. If a kid is going to school for 12+years then they need to learn more than algebra and english.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

i use to consider it another form of babysitting. but it helps tremendously with learning how to interact with others

 

[V h o]

Sociology, debate and/or speech, psychology, and philosophy could help with some or those...

 

[Illuminater]

i use to consider it another form of babysitting. but it helps tremendously with learning how to interact with others

How does it help at all? Kids are growing up turning into psychos, school isn't doing its job

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

How does it help at all? Kids are growing up turning into psychos, school isn't doing its job

use your logic and reasoning to see why that might makes sense to me

 

[The Work]

School systems are too poor to have that broad variety of classes.

Well most of them

 

[DominiqueX]

True. No one needs crap like polynomial division. Schools should teach how to eat healthy, that respecting and accepting different people and their views (as long as no one is harmed of course) is important, how to handle authority courses, what's important in terms of insurances etc. School should also support the individuals with their interests, not generalize and promote children to be mindless future workaholics.

Hakuna Matata, for real.

 

[HashiraMadara]

True. No one needs crap like polynomial division. Schools should teach how to eat healthy, that respecting and accepting different people and their views (as long as no one is harmed of course) is important, how to handle authority courses, what's important in terms of insurances etc. School should also support the individuals with their interests, not generalize and promote children to be mindless future workaholics.

Hakuna Matata, for real.

As a mathematician and a programmer I find your post offensive.
The polynomial division you're sarcastically trolling helps poly integration and quotient ones. Meaning you have "insurance" calculators that manage risk factors optimising "profit" because of such. etc.

There are healthy life, "perfect manner" and "the respect each other's views" etc. careers for you guys but don't hate on maths.


OT: I agree, the current education system creates robots instead of intricate thinking beings who challenge what they're given. You'd hear someone spitting numbers and commoners become impressed, to me that's not thinking, that's copy and paste...

 

[Loki d]

Another problem is the over sized class rooms...1 teacher cannot manage over 20 students and less attention goes to the students if the size is too big especially for the students that need help. This is a problem with the poor schools in the U.S.

Some of my best and favorite classes had the least amount of students...I did well in those classes too. We need mentors not just teachers.

 

[GreyWizard93]

Not just that but how to run your life and who to contact on certain situations like setting up gas and electric and working tax credits.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Another problem is the over sized class rooms...1 teacher cannot manage over 20 students and less attention goes to the students if the size is too big especially for the students that need help. This is a problem with the poor schools in the U.S.

Some of my best and favorite classes had the least amount of students...I did well in those classes too. We need mentors not just teachers.

I was in a class of 13 students, and the grade of 48 students divided over 3 classes hence mine had 13 students. Still, our grade didn't get 100% pass rate(we got 97.9%) :sdo:, the grade that succeeded us got the usual 100% pass rate yet they had 70 students in the grade meaning each class has something like a 23 odd 1 students :sdo:.

But it does help I agree to have few students because before the above ^^^ science school and the scholarship, I was studying in the ghettos. We were 59 students in 1 class. We had teachers coming Monday with hang overs etc. :|.

 

[Chikombo]

They should teach kids how to stay and eat healthy.

 

[Zabu]

They should teach kids how to stay and eat healthy.

Phys. Ed and Health. Whether they follow what they learn is up to them.

 

[Hachiman]

Life is a race you have to run,work hard till you get good marks and a good job. These are the lessons of life which are taught in classes. :lol

Before studies are for gaining knowledge but now it became a competition and schools are encouraging this type of system making them study from day to night. :lol

Nowadays schools look for profits,benefits of their own and many teachers are selected based on recommendation rather than talent.:lol