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Mr Freeze

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Why so butthurt?

I know you not talking about butthurt with the threads you made on Wednesday after chapter 689 came out, you still feeling the affect of that **** chapter 689 gave you
 

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Won't help him in CQC? That's exactly what it's for.

Naruto evaded the Third Raikage from point blank distance, while waiting to the last second and aiming at a certain spot after making 12 KCM clones with his Sage sensing. Sage Sensing is intended for CQC, that's why it's there with his enhanced reflexes. Kaguya has a Sharingan and it's not reading Naruto, nor can Sasuke tell when Frog Kumite is coming to clean his clock, especially with Naruto being faster.

This is all coming under a barrage of clones and Gudo Dama shape manipulated rods which negate any ninjutsu. Naruto OBLITERATES Sasuke in CQC.

That was from one strike from the Raikage, it won't help him much when Sasuke is continuously attacking him, at least not as much as a Sharingan. Kaguya's and Sasuke sharingan are completely different. Plus she was never in an actul taijutsu battle with him. Not to mention just having the Sharingan isn't going to help her. Naruto won't have the chance to use Frog Kumite and even if he does, Sasuke gets right back up and will then know about it and will take measures to avoid it.

This just a cqc scenario, so no clones. Sasuke can simply take the rods away from him.
 

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He wouldn't regardless because he can't see Senjutsu.

Here we come back to Naruto having exceptional experience in battle with fighting opponents of all shapes, colors, and creeds.

I'm not doing the homework for you. How can you give a complete answer to the subject in question if you don't even know yourself?

Exactly, naruto knew it while sasuke didn't

I know the answer, I don't know if you know the answer yourself, that's why I'm asking you
 

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Its like saying I have more experience than you in reading a book just because I keep on reading a page or 2 over and over again while you only read the page once but you have covered more pages than me

You don't understand how the Kage Bunshin works either. It's not reading a page or two over and over again, it's reading the pages in different minds and then absorbing it into your own at the same time.

Naruto was fighting Zetsu clones, Nagato and Itachi, Third Raikage, Madara, and Tobi all at the same time with various other battles like with the Jinchuriki Paths. He got all those experiences at once with the Kage Bunshin effect. Not counting his experience vs Pain, Kakuzu, Itachi, Orochimaru, Kurama, or the other battles he had. While Sasuke only fought Kabuto in the war, with Itachi taking the lead.

It's not even comparable.
 

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*cough* battle experience from clones in this war>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sasuke battle experience *cough*

Hmm. No not really.

Sasuke has experienced

Fighting an Explosion Style user from the akatsuki
Fighting a Perfect jinchuriki
Fighting A Raikage, A Boil/Lava release Mizukage, Seeing Jinton first person plus unique bodyguards.
Seeing Susanoo and fighting Itachi
Fighting 1000 Shinobi
Saw Orochimaru's Genjutsu world
Fought Kabuto in a full on battle
Learned from orochimaru
Heard first hand stories from The Hokage.
Read the uchiha tablet

All unique things that Sasuke has done head on
 

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That was from one strike from the Raikage, it won't help him much when Sasuke is continuously attacking him, at least not as much as a Sharingan. Kaguya's and Sasuke sharingan are completely different. Plus she was never in an actul taijutsu battle with him. Not to mention just having the Sharingan isn't going to help her. Naruto won't have the chance to use Frog Kumite and even if he does, Sasuke gets right back up and will then know about it and will take measures to avoid it.

This just a cqc scenario, so no clones. Sasuke can simply take the rods away from him.

There's so much wrong with this... it's unholy.

What do you mean one strike? Sasuke can only do 1 strike at a time, he's not a Machamp last I checked. There was a taijutsu battle or did you forget when Naruto attacked with clone army with Uzumaki Naruto Ittai and forced her to retreat to her other dimension?

You say the Sharingan won't help Kaguya, but it will somehow help Sasuke? Naruto can use Frog Kumite at will and from range if he pleases and Sasuke won't know or be able to see it in any way. And how, pray tell, is Saske going to "take away" Gudou Dama? He can't touch them unless Naruto allows it and anything it makes contact with is negated instantly.

CQC = Close Quarters Combat. Clones are most certainly allowed because that's how Naruto fights in close quarters. He often utilizes overpower and overwhelming numbers just as he did vs Kaguya when he forced her to retreat. Sasuke won't even be able to tell the clones apart and there's no way Sasuke will withstand a Kariki Musou punch, which knocked the f*ck out of Kaguya into a cliffside and obliterated her Muki Tensei.
 

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You don't understand how the Kage Bunshin works either. It's not reading a page or two over and over again, it's reading the pages in different minds and then absorbing it into your own at the same time.

Naruto was fighting Zetsu clones, Nagato and Itachi, Third Raikage, Madara, and Tobi all at the same time with various other battles like with the Jinchuriki Paths. He got all those experiences at once with the Kage Bunshin effect. Not counting his experience vs Pain, Kakuzu, Itachi, Orochimaru, Kurama, or the other battles he had. While Sasuke only fought Kabuto in the war, with Itachi taking the lead.

It's not even comparable.

If I fought 100 different kids and you fought 2 pro boxers, does that mean I have more experience than you?
 

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Absolutely disgusting, but I expect nothing more from you.
 

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Hmm. No not really.

Sasuke has experienced

Fighting an Explosion Style user from the akatsuki
Fighting a Perfect jinchuriki
Fighting A Raikage, A Boil/Lava release Mizukage, Seeing Jinton first person plus unique bodyguards.
Seeing Susanoo and fighting Itachi
Fighting 1000 Shinobi
Saw Orochimaru's Genjutsu world
Fought Kabuto in a full on battle
Learned from orochimaru
Heard first hand stories from The Hokage.
Read the uchiha tablet

All unique things that Sasuke has done head on

Naruto has:

Fought every dojutsu
Fought a guy with every chakra form
Fought a man with 5 lives
Fought a Kage with Magnet Release
Fought one of the fastest nina alive
Fought all Bijuu at once
Learned the ins and outs of Senjutsu
Heard and seen the story of Nagato, Obito, and Minato
Fought Kamui successfully
Traveresed the Jinchuriki Plane
Learned from Kurama
Been in Tsukuyomi
Learned through emotion sensing
Seen the past of jinchuuriki
Heard his father and mother's tale


I don't see why this is even relevant.
 

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If I fought 100 different kids and you fought 2 pro boxers, does that mean I have more experience than you?

This doesn't make sense and is not apt to any comparison being made. Naruto has fought more battles and thus has more experience.
 

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Rebuttal me good sir. In 1V1 Sasuke is more versatile

Current Naruto vs Current Sasuke? It's obvious who is more versatile. That is, if you're reading the manga fully not selectively.

#stopSR2014
 

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There's so much wrong with this... it's unholy.

What do you mean one strike? Sasuke can only do 1 strike at a time, he's not a Machamp last I checked. There was a taijutsu battle or did you forget when Naruto attacked with clone army with Uzumaki Naruto Ittai and forced her to retreat to her other dimension?

You say the Sharingan won't help Kaguya, but it will somehow help Sasuke? Naruto can use Frog Kumite at will and from range if he pleases and Sasuke won't know or be able to see it in any way. And how, pray tell, is Saske going to "take away" Gudou Dama? He can't touch them unless Naruto allows it and anything it makes contact with is negated instantly.

CQC = Close Quarters Combat. Clones are most certainly allowed because that's how Naruto fights in close quarters. He often utilizes overpower and overwhelming numbers just as he did vs Kaguya when he forced her to retreat. Sasuke won't even be able to tell the clones apart and there's no way Sasuke will withstand a Kariki Musou punch, which knocked the f*ck out of Kaguya into a cliffside and obliterated her Muki Tensei.

Chidori Stream takes out le clones, as it is a CQC move that seems like it was specifically made to handle Naruto's clone spamming ways Lol
 

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Chidori Stream takes out le clones, as it is a CQC move that seems like it was specifically made to handle Naruto's clone spamming ways Lol

Isn't touching with Sage reflexes or is blocked with Gudo Dama Lol
 

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There's so much wrong with this... it's unholy.

What do you mean one strike? Sasuke can only do 1 strike at a time, he's not a Machamp last I checked. There was a taijutsu battle or did you forget when Naruto attacked with clone army with Uzumaki Naruto Ittai and forced her to retreat to her other dimension?

You say the Sharingan won't help Kaguya, but it will somehow help Sasuke? Naruto can use Frog Kumite at will and from range if he pleases and Sasuke won't know or be able to see it in any way. And how, pray tell, is Saske going to "take away" Gudou Dama? He can't touch them unless Naruto allows it and anything it makes contact with is negated instantly.

CQC = Close Quarters Combat. Clones are most certainly allowed because that's how Naruto fights in close quarters. He often utilizes overpower and overwhelming numbers just as he did vs Kaguya when he forced her to retreat. Sasuke won't even be able to tell the clones apart and there's no way Sasuke will withstand a Kariki Musou punch, which knocked the f*ck out of Kaguya into a cliffside and obliterated her Muki Tensei.

Raikage attacked him once, with one punched. He didn't follow up after that. And i'm talking about a real actual one one taijutsu battle, not 1,000 against 1. And if i remember correctly, Kagjya came right back and was destroying them.

It won't help her since she isn't an experienced fighter like Sasuke and she doesn't have straight tomoe. Since when can Naruto increases his frog kumite range? Sasuke has Rikudo's chakra plus he was able to touch the chakra rods Madara had. Not to mention he's able to stand on Naruto Godou Dama.

If you're going to include clones, that's pretty unfair. Why can't naruto fight himself? And if Naruto can use Musou and all this other shit, then Sasuke can use Susanoo, Teleportation and Amaterasu.
 

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Naruto stomps in CQC and versatility.
 

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Current Naruto vs Current Sasuke? It's obvious who is more versatile. That is, if you're reading the manga fully not selectively.

#stopSR2014

Sasuke can bind, kill, capture, incapacitate, shield, attack, and teleport. Sasuke is more versatile
 
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