[Theory] New Limbo theory

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I was just in another debate thread about Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi not being required to unlock susano'o and this crazy idea somehow popped into my head when Madara was mentioned. A user stated since Madara never used either technique, it's safe to assume they aren't required. The theory that only Rinnegan can manifest perfect susano'o also contributed to this: What if Limbo is a combination of both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi?

This could explain why Madara never used them because they permanently became one technique when he unlocked the Rinnegan or when he altered them to be so. Furthermore, Itachi's descriptions of the two techniques are very yin and yang like. Amaterasu is described as "A representation of the material world and light" while Tsukuyomi is "a representation of the spirit world and darkness."

Limbo is defined as an invisible world that where a shadow is made into form and can make physical contact, but no one can see it. In other words, being both a spiritual and physical technique, like the yin-yang release.
 
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who knows? then shouldnt sasuke be able to do that? interesting since yin is spiritual/ghost world and yang is physical for the impact.
 

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Im sure Limbo is just a rinnegan technique u get when you are an Uchiha that unlocks the Rinnegan and Fodara's MS techniques were just not needed
 

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Definitely an Rinnegan technique, which enables Yin-Yang Release.
 

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interesting theory, now that you mention it i dont think its impossible..
 

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I was just in another debate thread about Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi not being required to unlock susano'o and this crazy idea somehow popped into my head when Madara was mentioned. A user stated since Madara never used either technique, it's safe to assume they aren't required. The theory that only Rinnegan can manifest perfect susano'o also contributed to this: What if Limbo is a combination of both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi?

This could explain why Madara never used them because they permanently became one technique when he unlocked the Rinnegan or when he altered them to be so. Furthermore, Itachi's descriptions of the two techniques are very yin and yang like. Amaterasu is described as "A representation of the material world and light" while Tsukuyomi is "a representation of the spirit world and darkness."

Limbo is defined as an invisible world that where a shadow is made into form and can make physical contact, but no one can see it. In other words, being both a spiritual and physical technique, like the yin-yang release.

Well, all the uchiha fans can lean on some pretty interpretation of every single power-up the uchiha get, but Limbo is not that impressive. I doubt it is even a separate world.

Remember, in Kakashi gaiden, there was the invisible guy who slashed Kakashi's eye. Obito could see him with his Sharingan as soon as he unlocked it. This jutsu was not far from Limbo. We can see that Limbo is not another dimension, and it is not another separate world. My evidence is that Naruto can kick Limbo people, and Limbo people can kick also those who are visible. So, rather than accepting all the BS explanation of Naruto wiki, people should accept that Limbo is merely a ninjutsu not even as impressive as Mu's body and mind splitting.

How can such cowardly technique that does not even work on a good sensor be a combination of Amaterasu and Tsukyomi?
 

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Well, all the uchiha fans can lean on some pretty interpretation of every single power-up the uchiha get, but Limbo is not that impressive. I doubt it is even a separate world.

I'm not an uchiha fanboy, smart aleck. It's a theory that just popped into my head like most do. An apiphany so to speak. I like to think critically about things that are left open for interpretation. The topic is not whether Limbo is impressive or not. It is about whether it is connected to Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi or not.

Remember, in Kakashi gaiden, there was the invisible guy who slashed Kakashi's eye. Obito could see him with his Sharingan as soon as he unlocked it. This jutsu was not far from Limbo.

How does a cloaking ability compare to Limbo where you create perfect invisible clones of yourself that are invulnerable and untraceable to anything other than senjutsu and rinnegan? I also doubt that cloaked shinobi could take out nine tailed beasts at once, or at all.

We can see that Limbo is not another dimension, and it is not another separate world.

There's no basis for that. It is as Madara describes it until stated otherwise. And if you know Dante's Inferno, Limbo actually is one of the nine circles or realms of hell disguised as paradise to deceive its inhabitants. It's also described as the edge of the world and hell.

My evidence is that Naruto can kick Limbo people,

Your evidence is you have no evidence. Naruto and Sasuke possessed the same rikudou powers as Madara and that was why they could see, sense and injure Limbo.

and Limbo people can kick also those who are visible. So, rather than accepting all the BS explanation of Naruto wiki, people should accept that Limbo is merely a ninjutsu not even as impressive as Mu's body and mind splitting.

I don't use wiki as reference, I use the manga and your bias towards the technique is irrelevant to the topic.

How can such cowardly technique that does not even work on a good sensor be a combination of Amaterasu and Tsukyomi?

Right, I forgot. All good sensors possess Rinnegan and Rikudou senjutsu. Get real.

It is stated by Madara to work on anything and everything that does not possess rikudou powers.

I already explained how it could be a combination of Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
 

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Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are competely different from that

Those are jutsu way above Itachi just accept it

Limbo is powerful jutsu

So far he has display only:

Tai jutsu
Genjutsu
Massive rock
Susanoo
Mokuton
Perfect Susanoo
Transportation ninjutsu just like minato
Uchiha Reflection
Dragon Mokuton
Limbo
2 Shadow (1 renagun)
4 Shadow (2 renagun)
Invisible force shield

he is the only a few one who can almost do all Jutsu
 
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Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are competely different from that

Those are jutsu way above Itachi just accept it

Limbo is powerful jutsu

So far he has display only:

Tai jutsu
Genjutsu
Massive rock
Susanoo
Mokuton
Perfect Susanoo
Transportation ninjutsu just like minato
Uchiha Reflection
Dragon Mokuton
Limbo
2 Shadow (1 renagun)
4 Shadow (2 renagun)
Invisible force shield

he is the only a few one who can almost do all Jutsu

Reread my op and don't tell me what to accept.
 

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I want it to be truth, But, why Madara doesnt use them against Hashirama in the first place?
Kishi is just prevented them to appear, he has them, its clear as ass.
 

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I was just in another debate thread about Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi not being required to unlock susano'o and this crazy idea somehow popped into my head when Madara was mentioned. A user stated since Madara never used either technique, it's safe to assume they aren't required. The theory that only Rinnegan can manifest perfect susano'o also contributed to this: What if Limbo is a combination of both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi?

This could explain why Madara never used them because they permanently became one technique when he unlocked the Rinnegan or when he altered them to be so. Furthermore, Itachi's descriptions of the two techniques are very yin and yang like. Amaterasu is described as "A representation of the material world and light" while Tsukuyomi is "a representation of the spirit world and darkness."

Limbo is defined as an invisible world that where a shadow is made into form and can make physical contact, but no one can see it. In other words, being both a spiritual and physical technique, like the yin-yang release.

Deep indeed , Interesting .
 

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I want it to be truth, But, why Madara doesnt use them against Hashirama in the first place?
Kishi is just prevented them to appear, he has them, its clear as ass.

Amaterasu is chakra so it could probably be absorbed by Mokuton while Hashirama could probably nullify any genjutsu by disrupting his chakra with his senjutsu. Ironically, Madara did absorb Amaterasu when he was revived.
 

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Amaterasu is chakra so it could probably be absorbed by Mokuton while Hashirama could probably nullify any genjutsu by disrupting his chakra with his senjutsu. Ironically, Madara did absorb Amaterasu when he was revived.

Its not working that way.
If we go as u said, why Hashirama didnt absorb Madara's Shurikens?

He can absorb just Chakra alone like Samehade u know, Not Jutsu

Ah? from when Senjutsu is defender from Genjutsu? u already forget Itachi Vs Kabuto if u say so.
Madara absorb Amatersu cuz he just king, even hashirama was in shock.
 

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If we go as u said, why Hashirama didnt absorb Madara's Shurikens?

Because shuriken are weapons, not chakra or jutsu.

Ah? from when Senjutsu is defender from Genjutsu? u already forget Itachi Vs Kabuto if u say so.

Izanami is reality warping just like Izanagi. That's a different property from Tsukuyomi or other genjutsus that aren't real.

Madara absorb Amatersu cuz he just king, even hashirama was in shock.

Lol fail.
 

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Because shuriken are weapons, not chakra or jutsu.



Izanami is reality warping just like Izanagi. That's a different property from Tsukuyomi or other genjutsus that aren't real.



Lol fail.

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In "shurikens" its means this


Izanami is classified as Genjutsu so its Genjutsu

The only fail here bro, is u
 

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In "shurikens" its means this

Yes, and once again, shurikens are weapons, not jutsus.

Izanami is classified as Genjutsu so its Genjutsu

A genjutsu that uses reality warping unlike the others, which are not real.

The only fail here bro, is u

Oh no! The age old "I know you are but what am I" come back! Classic!

How is it failing when I've rebuked everything you've argued?

Are you through yet?
 
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Yes, and once again, shurikens are weapons, not jutsus.



A genjutsu that uses reality warping unlike the others, which are not real.



Oh no! The age old "I know you are but what am I" come back! Classic!

How is it failing when I've rebuked everything you've argued?

Are you through yet?

Comon, if u were just said you are a troll from the beginning you could save my valuable time
 
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