"Never seen it, therefore it doesn't exist" -- retarded logic

[CutDeep]

I'll use Hiruzen as an example.

People have never seen prime (or youthful) Hiruzen in action, therefore he doesn't exist? You would think it was OBVIOUS that a younger Hiruzen would be stronger than an old Hiruzen, but some people still fail to grasp such basic logic.

Prime Hiruzen does exist. If you reject the existence of a prime Hiruzen, then old Hiruzen cannot exists (there is no future without a past).

We've never seen Hiruzen have ***, but yet he has a wife and a son, therefore logic tells you that he's not a virgin. Only a retard would dispute this.

So this argument that prime Hiruzen is fan-fiction is nonsensical. Is Hiruzen having *** also fan-fiction? If so, why does he have a son?

 

[Made in Heaven]

I thought this was gonna be about god ....

Spoiler

I was right

 

[Trúth]

It exists but its over hyped for nothing. Think about like this, He's so fodder that his fanbase was forced to make him a jutsu. I.e "The Neutralizer"

 

[Trúth]

I thought this was gonna be about god ....

Spoiler

I was right

Wow.....I used to think you were pretty cool. I hope your just kidding here. That fodder is the worst hokage

 

[Flakez]

He might as well be nonexistent.

We haven't seen anything from his supposed "Prime". Putting him next to to top tier shinobis is laughable.

 

[frozen5]

is prime hiruzen original work? nope.. then its fan fiction

 

[Aquarius]

I'll use Hiruzen as an example.

People have never seen prime (or youthful) Hiruzen in action, therefore he doesn't exist? You would think it was OBVIOUS that a younger Hiruzen would be stronger than an old Hiruzen, but some people still fail to grasp such basic logic.

Prime Hiruzen does exist. If you reject the existence of a prime Hiruzen, then old Hiruzen cannot exists (there is no future without a past).

We've never seen Hiruzen have ***, but yet he has a wife and a son, therefore logic tells you that he's not a virgin. Only a retard would dispute this.

So this argument that prime Hiruzen is fan-fiction is nonsensical. Is Hiruzen having *** also fan-fiction? If so, why does he have a son?

And we never will cuz its not a ecchi or hentai manga XD

 

[TrollKing]

Prime hashi > prime tobirami > prime hiruzen

 

[patrickscott]

He existed. We just haven't seen how he fought at that age is all.

 

[Conspirator.]

That logic is flawed as you quite rightly said. However what is equally flawed are those who hype up prime hiruzen to the point where is on par with the gods of the narutoverse.(like naruto,madara etc)

 

[Made in Heaven]

Wow.....I used to think you were pretty cool. I hope your just kidding here. That fodder is the worst hokage

Of course I'm joking. Hiruzen may be strong, but he's not the best.

 

[snake orochimaru]

He might as well be nonexistent.

We haven't seen anything from his supposed "Prime". Putting him next to to top tier shinobis is laughable.

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[Trúth]

XD Its all good then.

Of course I'm joking. Hiruzen may be strong, but he's not the best.

 

[LustyLover]

I'll use Hiruzen as an example.

People have never seen prime (or youthful) Hiruzen in action, therefore he doesn't exist? You would think it was OBVIOUS that a younger Hiruzen would be stronger than an old Hiruzen, but some people still fail to grasp such basic logic.

Prime Hiruzen does exist. If you reject the existence of a prime Hiruzen, then old Hiruzen cannot exists (there is no future without a past).

We've never seen Hiruzen have ***, but yet he has a wife and a son, therefore logic tells you that he's not a virgin. Only a retard would dispute this.

So this argument that prime Hiruzen is fan-fiction is nonsensical. Is Hiruzen having *** also fan-fiction? If so, why does he have a son?

Just because he has a wife and son doesn't mean that it's his biological son, which means that in that possibility is also the possibility that he is indeed a virgin. Not that it matters.

Long live our lord and savior, Prime Hiruzen!

 

[Tobi98]

What we need to take into account:

• How strong he was when old
• How strong he is when Edo
• How being a base fighter will affected his strenght when he got older
• He became a Kage when he was a teenager
• His teachers were Tobirama and Hashirama
• His hype

With this we can make an assumption on how strong he was in his prime, no Hashirama but still pretty strong

 

[Captain Falcon]

This Prime Hiruzen shit died down a little bit but now it's coming back. We really don't know shit about "Prime" Hiruzen so he's basically fanfic the way people hype him.

 

[Trúth]

Look, he was strong in ninjutsu and the outside sure. But he was weak and a coward inside. Just look at how easily Danzo walked all over him.

What we need to take into account:

• How strong he was when old
• How strong he is when Edo
• How being a base fighter will affected his strenght when he got older
• He became a Kage when he was a teenager
• His teachers were Tobirama and Hashirama
• His hype

With this we can make an assumption on how strong he was in his prime, no Hashirama but still pretty strong

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Prime hiruzen exists.....he's just overhyped, Edo hiruzen is basically prime hiruzen cause infinite chakra yet he got fodderized by juubito. The hype of prime hiruzen is too much. If the logic of "Never seen it, therefore it doesn't exist" is inefficient then the counter logic "never seen it, so why should I imply it's that great". The fact is at this point I'm the manga only Naruto and sasuke are relevant heroes the Edo kages are cheerleaders and side players. Hagoromo's power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>prime hiruzen also hashirama solos prime hiruzen? Why? Because hagoromo was the god of shinobi before hiruzen and he tamed the ninetails and handled madara a feat hiruzen could only dream of. And madara solo'd obito and hashirama and hiruzen got fodderized by juubito. Enough with the prime hiruzen hype even the second hokage is stronger.

 

[Tobi98]

Look, he was strong in ninjutsu and the outside sure. But he was weak and a coward inside. Just look at how easily Danzo walked all over him.

When did Danzo walk all over him?

 

[Dannie]

This is true but I have heard idiots say that there is a prime Sakura.