Netero and Zeno vs. Phantom Troupe

[Twisted007]

we don't know if he used the buddha on anyone other than mereum. when he fought maha it seemed to be when they were younger and it was show netero didn't go into training to achieve his buddha until his like 50's or 60's. also the only people shown to survive it were the top 2 ants how can you compare either to every single member of the troupe as if they are on the same level?

Are you rewriting HxH now? Reread this and tell me how Zeno knew about the buddha if they haven't fought before?

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He even says that Netero's nen is very hard to read and that its next to impossible to know where his attack will come from. Also notice the face he makes when he talks about the buddha, he fought Netero and survived the attacks.

Well in that case it would still result in a tie if Netero uses his Rose Bomb unless someone kills him before he tries to pull it off

Well yes if we are letting Netero blow himself up then it would be a draw. If we take the Rose out of this fight then the troupe wins.

 

[Hexuze]

l0l at the people saying Netero & Zeno would win. Look, Netero and Zeno are old & far below their respective prime. Chrollo was "playing" around with Zeno & Silva and he didn't have any intentions on killing either one, he just wanted their abilities. Zeno was willing to risk his life at that moment, that states a lot about Chrollo's strength. What are they going to do once Chrollo steals Netero's ability? It's quite easy since the other spiders can keep them busy. How would Netero/Zeno survive a rising sun? There's no way that old Netero/Zeno can win this. IMO Chrollo is one of the top 5 nen users so the chances of the geezers winning is pretty damn low.

The spiders win at low-mid. diff., old Netero is overrated when it comes to strength. I'd place him at #6 in my top 10 strongest HxH characters. If this was prime Netero & Zeno then it'd a different story and it'd still would be a win for the spiders on high-extreme diff.

 

[Gintõki1]

l0l at the people saying Netero & Zeno would win. Look, Netero and Zeno are old & far below their respective prime. Chrollo was "playing" around with Zeno & Silva and he didn't have any intentions on killing either one, he just wanted their abilities. Zeno was willing to risk his life at that moment, that states a lot about Chrollo's strength. What are they going to do once Chrollo steals Netero's ability? It's quite easy since the other spiders can keep them busy. How would Netero/Zeno survive a rising sun? There's no way that old Netero/Zeno can win this. IMO Chrollo is one of the top 5 nen users so the chances of the geezers winning is pretty damn low.

The spiders win at low-mid. diff., old Netero is overrated when it comes to strength. I'd place him at #6 in my top 10 strongest HxH characters. If this was prime Netero & Zeno then it'd a different story and it'd still would be a win for the spiders on high-extreme diff.

Well said.

 

[Twisted007]

l0l at the people saying Netero & Zeno would win. Look, Netero and Zeno are old & far below their respective prime. Chrollo was "playing" around with Zeno & Silva and he didn't have any intentions on killing either one, he just wanted their abilities. Zeno was willing to risk his life at that moment, that states a lot about Chrollo's strength. What are they going to do once Chrollo steals Netero's ability? It's quite easy since the other spiders can keep them busy. How would Netero/Zeno survive a rising sun? There's no way that old Netero/Zeno can win this. IMO Chrollo is one of the top 5 nen users so the chances of the geezers winning is pretty damn low.

The spiders win at low-mid. diff., old Netero is overrated when it comes to strength. I'd place him at #6 in my top 10 strongest HxH characters. If this was prime Netero & Zeno then it'd a different story and it'd still would be a win for the spiders on high-extreme diff.

I agree with most of what you said but the bold part is far from the truth. These are 3 out of the 4 conditions Chrollo set for himself.

He must witness the Nen ability in action with his eyes.
No problem.
He must ask about the ability and be answered by the victim.
No problem.
His victim's palm must touch the handprint on the cover of Bandit's Secret.
LOL how the hell is he going to do this? they would need to restrain Netero first. Its next to impossible.

 

[Hatsumi]

I have to go with the spiders but that would be an epic fight!

 

[Freecss]

Kuroro takes Zeno one on one, and beats him. The others try to take on Netero, but they fail. Netero then proceeds to beat Kuroro.

After seeing that last scene with Ging, everyone would probably get stronger to even survive in that new world. The animals are freaking bigger than the normal HxH world. I'd say everyone in HxH still have a way to reach their true power.

 

[Zorø]

The phantom Troupe would win Chrollo,Feitan and Hisoka would shit on dem.

 

[Commander Axe]

Probably the Troupe, as much as I like Netero Yo Mama San already covered what needed to be said.

 

[xcoyote]

Zeno stalemates Chrollo,Netero slaps the rest and OHKOs them,they dont have dura or speed feats to even suggest they can take on Bodhisattva.Netero proceeds to join Zeno and they trash Chrollo aswell.

 

[Kiiszame]

Its tough. Eliminating the fodder from the troupe that leaves Feltan and chrollo (Hisoka isn't a member and never was).

The real question is whether anyone from the troop would even be able to keep up with Neteros speed. I think its being highly underestimated. The only reason the king and Pitou for that matter were able to "see it" was because they felt it on instinct.

Those to characters are god like. To be honest Netero would probably solo all of them and Zeno would watch eating popcorn.
Chrollo has to see his opponents move I doubt he could see Neteros buddha.

Neteros was the strongest character of HxH along with the King. Thats why they had to go the way they did.
They were just too strong.

 

[-Akuma-]

You do realise Zeno could hold of Chrollo, while Ndtero spanks the Troupe. The fastest Troupe member couldn't out speed a ant captain, everyone apart from Chrollo get spanked by the Buddah of the bat even the King struggled to dodge it. The only threat to them is Chrollo who gets 2v1 after.

 

[SSS12]

When I saw thread title, I thought this was going to be a pretty one sided thread. It turned out to be, but in favour of who I thought.
Phantom Troupe take this. It's 2 vs 13! One-Three 13! And they are all very high level Nen users. Zeno himself stated that if Chrollo fought to kill, Zeno would lose to him. And Netero can't possibly keep a dozen Hisoka level fighters at bay for long, if at all. He will have to keep track of all 12 and knock them away before any one of them can reach him.
And the Meruem was able to take thousands of hits before his joints started to ache. Surely the PT can take a dozen or two at least? Not too mention the Hatsus of the PT are also not to be taken lightly.
Not taking into consideration the Rose Bomb because that's not Netero's power but was given to him as a last resort.

 

[Freecss]

You do realise Zeno could hold of Chrollo, while Ndtero spanks the Troupe. The fastest Troupe member couldn't out speed a ant captain, everyone apart from Chrollo get spanked by the Buddah of the bat even the King struggled to dodge it. The only threat to them is Chrollo who gets 2v1 after.

Feitan was blitzing Zazan after warming up, and the troupe state that he didn't even reach his normal level. I doubt that Feitan is faster than Kuroro though.

Post-mediating Netero was smacking around the King, who's much faster than any Royal Guard, who are faster than Squadron Leaders. No one has the speed to dodge Netero's attacks, or the durability to take much attacks.

Kuroro takes Zeno down. Kuroro wasn't really fighting when he fought Zeno and Silva, where both of them were just holding back. As of the feats we have now, they get taken by Netero though.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

In a 2 vs 13 (I think) who takes this?

I say Netero and Zeno what you think?

That's garbage. Chrollo solos Zeno mid diff and Phinks and Feitan (at full strength) handle Netero. Feitan just has to buy time for Phinks to wind his arm say, maybe 50 to a hundred times and it's game over. Pretty sure a nen user can wind his arm a 100 times in less than ten seconds. And Feitan's rising sun couldn't do it there are many other attacks that could, Uvogin is industructable (literally, he tanked nen enhanced emporor state punches even when he was in a forced zetsu state), Bonelonov's jupiter is large scale and uses sound waves, Shalnarks' autopilot can easily buy time for Phinks as well. No way Netero even stands a chance. Not to mention Chrollo can teleport him out of the budda statue like he did to Nobunaga when he tried to attack Hisoka, in which case he would it would be a free for all once he's out of the statue.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

dammmnnnn it'd be a good match but i think netero and zeno take this. zeno was good enough to keep up with their leader and netero is god like. even mereum acknowledged his strength. i honestly don't see any of the troupe getting past his buddha

Zeno had help from Silva, not to mention Chrollo was still considered them low enough to hold back against them, as he had absolutely no intention to kill but to steal their abilities (Rules of his ability are that the user of the ability has to stay alive). Fact is that Chrollo >> Zeno, even Zeno himself admitted he'd lose if Chrollo was serious.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Are you rewriting HxH now? Reread this and tell me how Zeno knew about the buddha if they haven't fought before?

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He even says that Netero's nen is very hard to read and that its next to impossible to know where his attack will come from. Also notice the face he makes when he talks about the buddha, he fought Netero and survived the attacks.


Well yes if we are letting Netero blow himself up then it would be a draw. If we take the Rose out of this fight then the troupe wins.

Not neccessarily. Chrollo can still instant teleport himself away, better yet himself and the whole ryodan. You might say in that case there might be a limit as to how many people he can teleport, well then, he can just teleport Netero himself away just before he explodes.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

I agree with most of what you said but the bold part is far from the truth. These are 3 out of the 4 conditions Chrollo set for himself.

He must witness the Nen ability in action with his eyes.
No problem.
He must ask about the ability and be answered by the victim.
No problem.
His victim's palm must touch the handprint on the cover of Bandit's Secret.
LOL how the hell is he going to do this? they would need to restrain Netero first. Its next to impossible.

Teleport Netero out of the Statue, have Machi tie him up with her nen strings, make him touch bandit's secret.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Feitan was blitzing Zazan after warming up, and the troupe state that he didn't even reach his normal level. I doubt that Feitan is faster than Kuroro though.

Post-mediating Netero was smacking around the King, who's much faster than any Royal Guard, who are faster than Squadron Leaders. No one has the speed to dodge Netero's attacks, or the durability to take much attacks.

Kuroro takes Zeno down. Kuroro wasn't really fighting when he fought Zeno and Silva, where both of them were just holding back. As of the feats we have now, they get taken by Netero though.

Saying the royal guard are automatically faster than the squadron leaders is pure garbage. For example, veryone was able to run away and avoid Youpi's attacks, but Knuckle and Morau couldn't even react to Cheetu's attacks and even when they started anticipating his attacks, he still neg diffed their speed.

 

[Freecss]

Saying the royal guard are automatically faster than the squadron leaders is pure garbage. For example, veryone was able to run away and avoid Youpi's attacks, but Knuckle and Morau couldn't even react to Cheetu's attacks and even when they started anticipating his attacks, he still neg diffed their speed.

Youpi was staying in the same place, and he wasn't even trying.

 

[Twisted007]

Not neccessarily. Chrollo can still instant teleport himself away, better yet himself and the whole ryodan. You might say in that case there might be a limit as to how many people he can teleport, well then, he can just teleport Netero himself away just before he explodes.

We don't know how far Chrollo can teleport people and if he can teleport himself. If we go by feats then he can only teleport somebody few meters. Meaning there is no way that they can escape from the Rose.

Teleport Netero out of the Statue, have Machi tie him up with her nen strings, make him touch bandit's secret.

I thought about that but remember that Pitou was unable to attack Netero when her hatsu took less then 0.1 second to activate. There is no way that Machi can tie him up on time. Netero will slap her away from him before she even activates her nen strings.